0:05
Amrit's poetry is not just poetry, Bharat. It is a weapon. For me, it is a poem. In my opinion, every artistic work.. ..poetry, drama, comedy or film.. ..through which we can connect with the public on the level of thought.. ..is a weapon in social or political struggle. It is right in a way. But why is it stubborn every time? This is not stubborn, Bharat. It is truth.
0:33
Art cannot be separated from politics. If you look carefully, the governments of every country... ...are using art as their means of maintaining their power. If we want to bring about fundamental change... ...we will have to use our art as a weapon. If it still doesn't work, we will have to make the weapon our means. You mean to say that the aim of art is to become a weapon of politics?
1:00
..doesn't he have any independent position? If an artist is not politically committed.. ..then his art is not relevant. Right, doctor? Why are you getting me into this debate? Seriously. An artist, whether he believes in any political ideology.. ..or becomes a member of any political party.. ..this is his personal decision. His personal choice. I don't consider it a necessary condition.. ..to be relevant to his art. But one thing is clear. In the 20th century, the best art and literature..
1:38
..is born from the spirit of some kind of protest. This protest was only political. It was social and spiritual. It is not easy to understand. But the spirit of protest and revolt was very powerful in the artist's mind. It is the artist's important responsibility to raise voice.. ..against any political system, injustice and corruption. Doctor, for the first time in so many years.. ..I am hearing you speak so much.
2:10
It's the grace of Mr. Avinash. Doctor, don't you think that to give the protest.. ..of the artist a form of a rebellion.. ..he needs the support of a political organization? I don't think so. In a historical moment when many artists.. ..express a special kind of consciousness.. ..a special kind of sensibility.. ..then a movement starts on its own. Which reaches the heart and mind of the common people. But doctor..
2:47
What about the personal happiness and sorrow of a person? Your vision of him is considered as a bad thing. Every happiness and sorrow of ours should be connected with sociality and politics. Why do you insist on it every time? There is no difference between a person's personal happiness and sorrow. But if he cannot touch the artificial level in the form of creation.. ..if he does not give a new perspective, then what is the use? Doctor, sometimes I have a suspicion that.. ..when we take the condition of social commitment..
3:20
..then the level of art doesn't get lower. How can we decide whether aesthetics is more important or commitment? Then I think that all these questions are dishonest. Because we don't have the freedom to choose. We write because we can't live without writing. Amrit has become a political activist.. ..because she knows her own path. The most important thing is that the work that we have chosen for ourselves.. ..do we do it with complete honesty or not? Bharat, answer one question. The injustice happening around us..
3:51
Will you take a moral stand about it or not? I will take it as a human being. And as an artist? - Not necessary. It means that a man has two types of moral commitment. It can be. If he is an artist, he lives on two different levels. You are a coward. You are scared of taking a moral stand and you speak smartly. No. Actually my stand is more moral. If I don't take two types of moral commitments.. ..then I get frustrated as a human being.
4:21
..and being an artist, you can't be honest. How many artists will you find who live on your friends' terms.. ..with complete honesty, without any compromise? This is a different question. - It's not a different question, Bharat. Sometimes the person and the artist are in front of each other. And they start looking for the answer to the same question. Then you have to make a decision. You have to decide whether you want to live as an artist.. ..or as a human being. If you are asked such a question, what will you do?
5:03
There's a call for Mr. Avnash. Excuse me.
