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La Generación de CRISTAL - CIENCIA SIMPLIFICADA EP#62

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Hello, my name is Carolina. Welcome

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to your podcast with science sense,

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simplified science, the number

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one science podcast in Mexico. Thank you to all of

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you who are listening to me through

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all audio platforms, and if you are

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joining me through YouTube,

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thank you so much for being here.

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Today we're going to start with a

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TikTok. So, let's see what

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this girl has to say. Let's listen to her

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. Okay, we're going to make a

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suspension bridge with chains, without any

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netting so the children can step on it and have a

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very small space and their feet will fall off

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. A gap exposed so that if a

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child loses their balance they will fall. We're going to

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put up some completely unnecessary shelves that will make

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the kids want to climb on them

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and risk falling.

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[laughs]

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We're going to make a seesaw with some

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super-powerful springs so that

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children who don't have strength in their backs will

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hit themselves right in the face here. And

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this is very hard, very hard so that they

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stick together and the nose breaks. Stones,

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stones for them to throw at each

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other. We're going to put up a rotating inclined tube

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and have the children climb on it and

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lose control until they fall onto

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the rocks.

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We're going to build a slide on the

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mountain where the sun shines directly on it,

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so directly that the children can

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touch it and get burned.

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Oh no, I can't.

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I see myself [laughs] in this video, I'm really laughing, huh

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? No hate for this person. Of course

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not. The truth is that the user will be there

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. Go to her and follow her. I don't know what kind of

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content she makes, but she's named after my mom, I do

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n't know what. So, she probably makes

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content for moms. Yeah, great

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person, I don't know, I guess, but at the moment I

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'm recording this video,

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this TikTok has 14 million views and

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at least 1.3 million likes. And

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that tells us that the feeling

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this girl has is a

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fairly common one. I mean, people

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actually go to where the

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kids are playing and say, "Why are there knives?

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[laughs]

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Why are they giving my

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son knives to play with?"

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And today I am going to defend the

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thesis that yes, we should give knives to

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babies to play with. Yes, so that

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they know what the world is like from a young age, so that they

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protect themselves. Yes, friends, we're going to be

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talking about the benefits of

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risky games for children.

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But to delve into this topic and

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recall many of these

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beautiful childhood anecdotes, please tell me

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, what childhood scars do you have

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? I can tell you, look, I

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have one here. Ah, look, it's definitely

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noticeable. Well, I don't know if the

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color correction will make it noticeable, but

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here I have one eye that's a little droopy, because

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who knows what kind of blow I might have gotten here

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, but we'll take it off later.

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I have one there and I have another one here. I have

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several, I have several. I have one here in my

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head. Nobody knows. That's why she

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wasn't such a young girl anymore. Look.

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How many do you have from your childhood? That's what

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we're going to talk about today:

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wild childhood, eating dirt,

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letting ourselves be bathed. For the people of

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Obregón, for the people who are from Obregón

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like me, you, I don't know if you

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remember, I was just talking about this

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with my parents, uh, with my dad in

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particular, I don't know if you remember,

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before they put the

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hydraulic pavement on Guerrero, in Obregón, well,

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the water ran, I mean, it rained in

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Obregón once a year, literally, and it

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ran like this, but the river of

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chocolate water and my parents let me

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bathe there and for me it was wonderful, I

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mean, that they let me be like that

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in the water with poop. [laughs] I

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promise you, the dream on earth was

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fabulous, that it rained in Oregon and that

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Guerrero flooded, and being there

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watching the river of water pass by was the best day

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of my life. That's where

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my microbiota comes from, my friends. Yes, look,

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diversity there, imagine the amount

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of water I must have swallowed there.

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I share a microbiota with every bregón, that much I

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can easily assure you. My

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gut microbiota, from that moment on, said,

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"Girl, and you know what? I almost never get

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sick, very rarely. I mean, if anything, I

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really do have enviable health to this day. I mean, I'm not

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saying this to brag, but I do have

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enviable health to this day.

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I say that any minute now I'm going to have a

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heart attack and die. Yeah, I mean, it's

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really going to be like getting struck by

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lightning. But before that, look, all

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my years of life have been granted to me in

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extremely good health thanks to bathing in

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sewage water there in Guerrero. If you know what I mean, open a

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Sonoran Union.

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What we're going to talk about today

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comes from an article published in

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Nature titled "Why Kids

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Need to Take More Risks: Science

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Reveals the Benefits of Wild

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and Free Play." If you want to

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read it along with me, you can find it

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with the English title, "Why Kids Need to

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Take More Risks: Science Reveals the

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Benefits of Wild and Free Play." If you

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understood my English, well, there you'll

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find the... This article, from the journal

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Nature, is quite interesting because it

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brings together several

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researchers who have dedicated a

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significant portion of their lives to investigating

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the effects of

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controlled risk on the development of

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children and adolescents. And as always,

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we have to start with the definition.

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What exactly is risky play? Well, according to

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Norwegian researcher Helen Sandetter, risky play is

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exciting and stimulating play that involves

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uncertainty and a risk, whether real or

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perceived, of physical injury or

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getting lost. And she tells us, there's

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a very important distinction. It's crucial to

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emphasize that risk is not the same as

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danger. Danger is something a child

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isn't prepared to perceive or deal with.

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For example, it's dangerous for a child to

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try to stick their fingers in an

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electrical outlet, and the child does

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n't necessarily know that it's

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dangerous, that they shouldn't do it.

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An adult has to point out

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that it's dangerous. In other words, children are

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n't always equipped to notice and

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deal with all dangers. But, for

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example, for a child of a For a one-year-old who

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hasn't yet walked, taking that first

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step is risky. The child doesn't

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know if they'll fall forward,

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backward, or sideways—

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what will happen. The child is

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taking a risk when trying

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to stand up and take that first step.

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Clearly, this is a risk

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appropriate for their age and, moreover,

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necessary for their development

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as a human being. To become

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a complete little person, they need to

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take that first risk: "I'm going to stand up

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even if I fall forward." And it's

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also true that while getting up

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and taking that first step is a risk

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the child must take, they

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can also fall and

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hurt themselves. In other words, it's risky, but

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necessary. This is also

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important for

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developing into the person we are going to

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become; we need to take these

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risks. It's also important to

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understand that risk changes with

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age. What is risky for a

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one-year-old, like taking their first step, wo

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n't be risky for a child of a different age. Three

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years old, and now she's walking more freely. And I was

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telling you that this definition was

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first proposed by Helen Saneter back in

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the 90s, and it comes from a rather

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interesting story. It turns out that in 1996

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in Norway, her home country

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, regulations and

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standards began to be implemented to try to make

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children's playgrounds

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safer. These regulations, for example,

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required those in

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charge of these playgrounds to have safety barriers,

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rounded corners, and to

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add equipment that could minimize

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the risk of injury. This could mean

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putting a padded surface

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instead of, you know, that

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metal pole that makes you bang your head all over, making it

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much

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safer for children. So,

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our dear Helen started to notice

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this, she started to see how the parks were

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transforming into these

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much safer spaces. And it caught her

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attention because

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Helen was dedicated to research. How did

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taking certain controlled risks affect teenagers?

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In her research, she had noticed that

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when teenagers had access to

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more controlled and

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positive risks, such as participating in

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extreme sports, mountain climbing, or

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public singing, they

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were less likely to

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seek out negative or dangerous risks,

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such as vandalism or

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shoplifting. For

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teenagers who had the opportunity to

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engage in these activities, which

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already involved some risk, it

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generated

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intense sensations, something

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many teenagers seek—

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they want to feel that excitement, that

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adrenaline rush. So, the fact that they were already

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participating in a sport or an

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extreme activity that gave them access to that

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adrenaline made them less likely to

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seek that adrenaline

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in other, more

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negative acts, like shoplifting.

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Then she began to wonder if

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having access to these activities with a

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certain degree of risk is positive for teenagers, what might be

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happening to children? And she said,

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"Cobbler to your "Shoes." The researcher

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began investigating and

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studying risk-taking and

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thrill-seeking in children between the

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ages of 3 and 5. At that time, there wasn't yet

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an

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established definition for the phenomenon

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she was trying to observe,

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which is playing with certain risks

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involved. So she said, "Well, if there isn't one,

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I'll invent one." And she coined this

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definition of risky play, which

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we reviewed a moment ago, and which,

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with some variations, is

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still used by many

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researchers today. Since the 1990s, when

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Helen began her research,

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we now have a great deal of

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evidence about the effects of

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risky play on children. What has been

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found is that

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opportunities for risky play

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are crucial for healthy physical,

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mental, and emotional development. Children

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need these opportunities for

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risky play, which is basically what the

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young woman showed us in the TikTok video

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at the beginning. What she was saying: "Yes,

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let's put this step here with

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a chain so that if they don't put their

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foot down correctly, they'll fall." That's what she was saying. We're going

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to put these shelves here,

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nice and high, so the children will try

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to climb them and fall. All of these things

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are necessary for children's development

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. Children need these

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opportunities to develop their

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spatial awareness, coordination,

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tolerance for uncertainty, and

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self-confidence. Many studies

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have found that children are

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better aware of their own capabilities than

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adults realize. Furthermore, in

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various studies, some by

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Sunsetter, risky play has been

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associated with greater resilience,

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problem-solving skills, and

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social skills such as

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cooperation, negotiation, and

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empathy. For example, a study was conducted

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in Belgium where

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four- and six-year-old children were

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told, "Children, we're going to let you

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play wildly, freely, this

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risky play for two hours a week.

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This wild, daring, risky play is what we're

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allowing children to do

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for three months." And at the same time there

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was a control group, so, well, kid,

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don't move because what if you

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scrape your knee? So those children were

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left to their

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usual games, right? As carefully as possible.

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And it was found that after 3 months the

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risk assessment skills of the

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group of children who had had access to

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these wilder games improved

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compared to the children in the

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control group. Children learn to navigate

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their environment better, and at that stage

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of growth,

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the "hit by sight" approach also works quite well; that is,

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they test the waters,

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they have that opportunity to get to know

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themselves, and when they take risks and

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succeed, they generate much more self-confidence;

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that is, they not only become better

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at socializing, but their

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relationship with themselves also improves. To begin with,

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imagine that all the

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physical benefits are there. Today we're not

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messing with the children's physical abilities

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, no, no. It is very important

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that a child can hang, that a child

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can coordinate, that a child has good

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balance. It's something he has to

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develop and he has to strengthen his

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body. I mean, it's true that the

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first time you climb onto the handrail, you'll

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probably fall, and that's how you'll

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learn several things. You're going to learn

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that yes, you can fall, and you're going to

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land on both feet. And if you don't land on

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both feet, you'll land on your

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buttocks and that's okay. We're going to

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go back to that "nothing's wrong" topic right now.

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You also learn and

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strengthen your body when you keep

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trying to climb up by passing your hands.

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We're not getting into the

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physical aspect today, but it's still very

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important to point it out. In other words,

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sedentary children, and we are increasingly seeing not just

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more sedentary children, but a

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more sedentary society. Children are

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sedentary because we parents have

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become sedentary, because we have all

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become sedentary, because it's too much of a

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hassle to take them to the park. There's no

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internet there, and here we're perfectly happy

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watching TikTok. But even

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overprotective parents might say, "What if I

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put my kid in a

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crystal ball and have him exercise there? That he

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never leaves the bubble."

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Well, the child will be physically

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very healthy, but this

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risky game has many more benefits.

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And that's where, for example, the next

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benefit comes in, which is one of the benefits

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that blew my mind the most and I

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said, "Of course. I mean, that's not only

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good for children, it's good for

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us too, for our brains."

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Well, it turns out there's a researcher

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named DOT who found that

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risky outdoor play had

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quite a few benefits for

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children, I mean, not just being cooped

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up, but letting them loose and, you

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know, going to the mountains, kid, you don't have a

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house, get out there. which found that

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risky outdoor play was

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linked to lower levels of

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stress and anxiety in children. And Do

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said, then, why is that? Why is it that

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children who are playing

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outdoors seem less anxious and

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less stressed? And he put forward a

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hypothesis. Dot's hypothesis tells us

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that risky play reduces the risk

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of anxiety in children by teaching them

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about the physiological arousal,

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adrenaline, and tachycardia that

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accompany anxiety and

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excitement. This hypothesis suggests that

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when children have the opportunity

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to experience the cycle, which is a

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challenge, the anxiety of facing it and

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successfully coping with it allows them to learn to

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control anxiety and understand that

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physiological stress is not the end of the

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world and does not last forever. According

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to DOT, children who can

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repeatedly experience this cycle of challenge,

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anxiety, and coping learn to

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manage anxiety and understand that

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physiological stress is not the end of the

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world and does not last forever. And this seemed

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to me to be really fascinating and

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super important clearly for the

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development of children, but also

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for oneself. In other words, the importance

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of experiencing these situations of

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moderate risk, of controlled risk,

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where we experience these levels of

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anxiety, where we take risks, and

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understanding that we can experience all

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these physiological sensations such as

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tachycardia, feeling like

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our heart is going to burst, our

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hands start to sweat, that we

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have all these sensations

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because it is true that we are taking

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a risk, but that at the end of the day it

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is not the end of the world and that it is also a

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temporary sensation. I mean, imagine

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a brand new little human, fresh

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out of the agency, I mean, I just took it out

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of the Amazon box where it

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came from. Imagine that all his life

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this little person has been inside

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a bubble, that every time he turns around,

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Dad is watching him, Mom is

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checking him from the other side, that if he climbs

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somewhere there is always someone there to

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catch him, and if there is no one there to

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catch him, then it is clear that he is lying

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quietly on a mattress. It is a

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person who has never experienced

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risk, who has never said, "Oh, how

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scary if I fall." He has never felt

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the adrenaline rush that comes with taking those

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risky actions, because at the

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end of the day, for a child to climb one

17:22

of these towers, well, the child is about

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a third of the height of the tower and

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sometimes less. If you've never felt that

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emotion, if you've never felt the

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tachycardia, if your hands have never sweated

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, the day you experience it for the

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first time, you feel like

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the world is going to end, that is, you're going to have a

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heart attack. Because? Because you

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've never developed the resilience to

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understand that what you have to do in

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these situations is often to

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face it, to take the next step

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to get down from the tower, to throw yourself down

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the slide and that down below the

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slide, well, nothing happens if you

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fall, you fall, you fell and nothing happened.

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That's the same thing they do to

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children, isn't it? It's like, "Ah, heal, heal little

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frog's tail, if it doesn't heal today it will happen

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tomorrow." It's healthy for children

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to understand that if they bump themselves, it's

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not the end of the world. And that is the

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conclusion of practically all the

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studies that have been done on this

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subject, that children who live, who

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coexist with these types of risks,

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learn to cope with them better. For

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example, during 2020,

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when we were in the midst of the

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COVID pandemic, research was conducted to

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analyze what was

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happening to children, how they were

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coping, and what was found

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was that children who spent more

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time playing adventure and risk games

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showed fewer symptoms of anxiety and

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depression than those who spent

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less time playing these types of games. The

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study mentions that children with more

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opportunities to take risks

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were happier. And

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interestingly for us

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Latin Americans, it was found that this

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protective pattern, that is, this pattern

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that risky play protects you from

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mental health problems such as

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depression or anxiety, was even more

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significant in children from

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low-income households than in those from

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higher-income households. In other words,

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children from lower-income families who had

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access to these moments of developing themselves in a

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more adventurous and risky way

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were even more protected against

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such important mental health problems

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as depression and

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anxiety.

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And now comes a very

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important question. Let's suppose I've already

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convinced you, that you said,

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"You know what? This girl,

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Helen Sunster, is right. It'll definitely

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benefit my son to play with

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knives. He needs more risk." Well, it

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turns out there's a very

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important point. You can't just walk up to him with your little

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snot and say, "You know what?" Yesterday I watched

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a podcast by a girl and she convinced me

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that what you have to do is take

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more risks and go out on the street with a

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knife and see who survives the night.

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No, what the researchers are saying is

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that it's not up to parents to

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encourage their children to take more risks.

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That is by no means the conclusion of

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this episode. We shouldn't

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tell children, "Take more risks,

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jump into the street, cross the street without

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looking." No, let's remember that we're

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talking about play, freedom for

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children. And the game should always be

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guided by the child and their wishes. The

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role of adults is to provide them with a

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conducive environment and let them be, if anything

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, cheerleaders for the

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children, to step aside, let them

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live together, let them make those

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decisions, let them

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legitimately take risks. The authors' message

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is really, children need autonomy

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, they need the freedom to

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move around in their environment, to exist

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freely, to make their own decisions, and to

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take their own risks. Helen Dot tells us

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that what we seek to promote is

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risky play, free play, and that it ceases to

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be play the moment an

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adult tells the child what to

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do. Very important, friends, let it

21:08

be. Let it be. You might cheer him on from

21:10

afar, saying things like, "Well done, you did it

21:13

," but beyond that, giving them

21:15

freedom, giving the kids freedom

21:17

is what they're looking for. And there's a

21:19

phrase here that I quite liked, which

21:21

apparently is the motto of the defenders of

21:23

risky gambling, and what it tells us is that

21:26

children should be as safe as

21:29

necessary,

21:31

not as safe as possible.

21:34

Important, that is, safety to the

21:36

extent necessary, but not to the extent

21:38

possible, because yes, it is true,

21:41

maybe you have the possibility of putting the

21:43

child in a bubble and that is the

21:46

safest possible place for the child,

21:48

but is it necessary to have him in a

21:50

bubble, that is, is that really what

21:53

will bring the most benefits to his

21:55

development? Well, possibly not. It is

21:57

probably best to be safe

22:00

as far as necessary. I mean, you're

22:01

clearly not going to take him to the park

22:04

and abandon him and say,

22:05

"See you later, then, see you there at 8

22:07

pm." As was possibly the case for

22:08

many of us who are now in a

22:10

different age range and were at that

22:12

age where you would leave your house. You would leave

22:14

your house and come back at

22:16

night, and where were you? Well, who knows,

22:18

but you came back at the time they

22:19

told you to. What happened from the time you

22:22

left your house until 8 or 9 at

22:25

night when you returned? Well, it was no longer

22:27

your parents' business, because your parents

22:29

let you be and do whatever you wanted, so what

22:31

happened to

22:33

you out there was a complete mystery. Clearly, one also

22:35

needs to have good judgment. You know

22:36

that this podcast is for people

22:38

with at least two brain cells.

22:40

Look, I'm making at least

22:41

double what they're making. I think I can fit up to

22:42

a fifth one in there. In other words, it's important that

22:45

they have good judgment. Clearly they're not going to

22:47

drop the kid off at the park and

22:48

say, "Okay, see you there at 8

22:50

pm. Take care." We need to have

22:52

criteria for how we establish these

22:55

spaces. relatively safe places where

22:58

they can take risks within

23:01

their capabilities. In other words, what we

23:02

want is for the child to actually

23:04

hold onto the handrail, not for him to be

23:06

taken away, not for the child

23:08

abductor to take him. And the researchers

23:10

point out, they say, "Use your judgment and

23:12

also use your knowledge as a

23:14

parent." It

23:15

makes me laugh that there are

23:17

scientific investigations that are like things

23:19

we say, well, it's obvious, right? Is

23:21

n't that obvious? But it's important

23:23

to investigate, it's important to

23:25

have numbers and data to say, "No,

23:27

well, it is true." And these gentlemen

23:30

began to investigate the

23:32

facial expressions of the children when they were

23:35

having these, well, risky games

23:38

in a positive way, that is, when they

23:40

were generating

23:42

positive risks, you could say. And they

23:44

point out that

23:45

the child's facial expression while performing

23:47

the activity is a very good indicator. In other

23:49

words, it can tell us whether

23:52

or not we should interfere with the activity

23:54

the child is doing. They say

23:56

that when children are highly

23:58

focused, they are observing, they have a

24:00

determined look, they are clearly

24:04

determined to perform the activity, to

24:06

climb the handrail, to jump off the

24:09

tube from where they have to jump.

24:10

When children are focused and

24:12

determined, it is important,

24:15

they say, to take a moment and let

24:17

the child work through the situation they are in

24:20

. On the other hand,

24:21

if you notice that the child freezes

24:23

, if their face

24:26

starts to look distraught, and if instead of

24:28

focusing on the activity they are

24:31

trying to do, they start turning around

24:33

desperately, as you

24:35

know, kicking and screaming, well,

24:37

then yes, that might be a good time to

24:40

intervene, to go in and help them

24:42

solve the problem. You're not necessarily

24:44

going to lower it. You might say,

24:46

"Don't worry, you can do it. Look, put

24:48

one foot here, put one foot there."

24:50

As parents, you'll see what's best

24:52

to do for your kid, but what they're

24:54

telling us is, "Read your child,

24:57

learn to read their

24:59

facial expressions. What

25:01

you consider risky for a

25:03

child isn't always going to be risky for them.

25:06

Don't underestimate your child's abilities

25:08

. Let them decide and see their

25:11

limits, and in some cases,

25:13

even suffer the consequences. I mean,

25:14

kids really do have to

25:16

fall. Kids really do

25:18

have to fall. We all

25:20

have to fall, friends. There's even a trick to

25:21

falling. And you have to learn it

25:23

in childhood when you're still so soft and pliable

25:24

. Aren't

25:26

kids like rubber? I really see kids and I

25:27

say, 'Dude, what just happened

25:29

to you would leave me with a receipt

25:31

from the school that pays for your whole elementary school.'" I

25:34

assure you.

25:36

And notice that there is something very curious,

25:38

because like everything in this life there is

25:40

a whole social and cultural context around

25:43

how many risks we let the

25:46

kids take. It exists, it's a whole

25:49

issue. It turns out that

25:50

Scandinavian countries are highly permissive

25:54

regarding risk. In other words, that's when they

25:57

sharpen the knives on the baby and tell him,

25:58

"Get out there, go solve the world's problems out there

26:01

." The Scandinavians. Why do

26:03

you think that is? A highly recurring theme on

26:05

this channel. Why do you think

26:07

Scandinavian parents are much more

26:10

permissive of their children taking risks

26:13

and having a slightly freer life in

26:16

terms of risky gambling?

26:18

For universal access to healthcare.

26:21

These countries that have somewhere to take

26:24

their kids if they break their arm,

26:26

allow their kids to have this

26:29

type of game where, well, they might

26:30

break their arm, but nothing happens

26:33

because we have access to a good

26:35

health system where nothing happens, I mean,

26:38

in half an hour you'll already have

26:40

your helmet for your arm and we carry on.

26:44

We arrived at the house at night for dinner. It does

26:46

not become a major and

26:47

catastrophic event in the lives of parents and

26:50

children. And interestingly enough, as mentioned

26:52

here, the strictest Norwegian parents

26:56

are on the same level as the

26:58

most permissive Canadian parents. Imagine

27:02

that. In other words, the Norwegian dad who

27:05

sets the most rules and keeps you

27:06

locked up at home is on the same level

27:09

as the Canadian dad who lets you

27:11

go out, do things, and make your

27:13

own decisions. Where do you think?

27:15

This really intrigues me. Where do

27:16

you think Mexico is on this

27:18

scale? What do you think? What is your

27:21

perception? Do you think we should be more

27:22

permissive? In other words, will Mexico be more

27:25

permissive than Canadians, or perhaps

27:26

we are less permissive? I mean, there's a whole

27:29

social context around these

27:31

things that's really interesting, folks.

27:33

The social determinants of health

27:36

can never be ignored.

27:40

Having access to universal healthcare

27:43

makes you a more worry-free dad,

27:46

which allows you to give

27:48

your children more freedom. This lets them

27:51

go out and play more

27:53

freely, reducing their

27:55

anxiety and depression levels,

27:58

improving their coordination, socializing, and

28:01

self-determination—all the things we

28:04

discussed. And where does it come from? Well, that

28:06

the kid has access to

28:08

universal healthcare, that you have that insurance behind you

28:10

that allows you to take all those

28:12

freedoms. The social determinants

28:14

of health, friends, are always very

28:16

important. And the more we delve into

28:18

the social context, the more interesting the topic becomes

28:20

. For

28:23

example, the United States is like the

28:26

number one place in child safety. In other words, they actually

28:29

put a mattress on the mattress where

28:32

the little kid is going to throw himself. Because?

28:35

Because it is a highly

28:37

litigious society. The gringo loves two

28:40

things. Shoot. It isn't true. The gringo

28:44

loves to sue. He's fascinated by

28:47

lawsuits, everything. Like, if he

28:49

slips at Walmart, he says, "I've got it made

28:52

. Here's my retirement. I slipped

28:54

at Walmart. Yes. Yes, indeed." So,

28:57

being in a highly

28:59

litigious environment, the people in charge

29:02

of these children's play areas, you

29:04

know, like the

29:06

McDonald's play areas or roller coasters,

29:08

any ride where a kid can climb

29:10

, have to ensure every

29:14

last detail so that the child, look, does

29:16

n't even scrape their knee. I mean,

29:18

the pole isn't too hard for

29:21

the child to hold onto and hurt their little hand

29:23

. No, no, no, no.

29:25

All that can't be allowed here. And what's happening

29:26

is creating a bubble where

29:28

children don't have access to these

29:32

controlled and moderate-risk games

29:35

, as we've already discussed, which

29:36

have many

29:38

health benefits. I mean, these are things that have

29:40

nothing to do with each other. That society is

29:42

highly litigious and that you have children

29:45

who aren't developing their

29:47

coordination and evaluation skills. Risks.

29:50

It seems like these are taboo subjects.

29:52

However, they are being affected.

29:55

Again, friends,

29:57

social determinants of health. Human beings

29:58

don't exist in a vacuum. We live governed

30:02

by laws, by rules, by policies. And

30:05

these laws, rules, and policies have an

30:07

impact on our health. The fact

30:09

that the United States lives in a

30:11

highly litigious society limits

30:14

its children's ability to engage in this

30:16

risky play, which, as we've seen, is

30:22

incredibly

30:24

important for their development.

30:27

And another way in which culture

30:30

permeates children's development,

30:32

which really caught my attention, is

30:34

with German playgrounds.

30:37

Look it up, look it up online,

30:39

search for "German Playground," really look it up

30:42

, because those people are the

30:44

complete opposite. If Americans

30:46

are like Ronald McDonald, not wanting

30:49

your child to scrape their knee,

30:51

Germans are like, "Kid, we need you to

30:53

learn how to survive in a trench."

30:56

Seriously, German playgrounds

30:58

are... These people are well-known, they're famous for being

31:02

children who go to war, I mean,

31:04

really, the kids are like, well, who

31:06

knows if your child will come back, but they're having a great time.

31:09

And this approach

31:11

the Germans take to spaces where

31:13

children are allowed to play, which

31:16

for many people, or I think in

31:17

Mexico even, would be considered

31:19

risky, I mean, we're not

31:20

used to having so much metal in

31:23

playgrounds. And you know, I really

31:25

think Mexican parents would freak out

31:26

. I think they'd say, "No,

31:28

my son, no, don't go playing over

31:30

there." It turns out that

31:32

the Germans' relationship with these

31:34

playgrounds comes from the destruction caused

31:37

after World War II.

31:40

Mm, imagine that. It really

31:43

blew my mind to find this out. Well, it

31:45

turns out that after World War II

31:47

, Germany was in ruins.

31:49

They had bombed practically all

31:52

the cities. Uh, there were many problems

31:54

to solve, there was famine, there was

31:58

political uncertainty, there were so many

32:00

problems, and well, there wasn't time. to

32:04

see where the kids would be playing

32:05

. So, the children started

32:09

playing among the rubble because that's

32:11

all they had around them. There

32:13

was only rubble; where else were they going

32:15

to play? The children played by climbing

32:17

ruins, building forts with the

32:19

remains of

32:21

bombed buildings, and even improvising their

32:24

own trenches. And this wasn't something

32:26

new. Back in 1943, the architect Carl

32:30

Theodor Sorensen proposed the idea of ​​a

32:33

junkyard playground. Scramelgan

32:37

Platz, or

32:39

Scarameyedg Platz

32:43

in Danish,

32:45

was a space where children could

32:47

build, destroy, and

32:49

experiment freely, but

32:52

safely. Yes, they had wood,

32:55

nails, and other things to be

32:57

careful of, but at the end of the

33:00

day, they were in a safe place; no child

33:03

abductor was going to take them. The first

33:06

playground of this kind opened

33:08

in Copenhagen in 1943.

33:11

And this concept... It spread across

33:14

war-torn Europe, especially

33:16

in Germany and the UK, where it was

33:19

seen as a healthy way to

33:21

channel children's energy and trauma

33:24

.

33:26

What do you think? World War II

33:29

gifting us junkyards.

33:31

Of course it is.

33:34

And before we wrap up, I'd like to revisit

33:36

two points we discussed

33:38

today. First, something the

33:40

young woman mentions in her video when she's

33:42

on the seesaw. She says, "You have to

33:44

put in a seesaw with

33:46

really stiff springs so

33:48

weak children fall forward." Notice

33:50

that this comment points to

33:52

a topic that I think is very

33:53

important, extremely relevant, which I haven't

33:55

brought up because I do

33:58

n't think we have enough information yet. There aren't any

34:04

extensive studies that tell us what's

34:07

happening, how big the

34:08

problem is. More research is needed

34:11

so I can put together a

34:13

more comprehensive episode to

34:15

discuss this topic and understand whether it's

34:18

something we should really be

34:19

concerned about, because there are many

34:22

Things are happening in the world, and sometimes we need to

34:23

know if, I mean, if we should be

34:25

worried or not, if something is happening

34:27

or nothing is happening. You know,

34:28

I try to follow a lot of teachers, I

34:30

try to stay informed about what they're saying,

34:32

what's

34:33

happening in the classrooms, what they

34:35

're seeing, because they're the ones

34:37

experiencing the

34:40

things we'll only find out about

34:42

in the future. They're

34:44

seeing certain trends, like if

34:47

children, for example, are having

34:48

more trouble concentrating or

34:50

reading these days—they're seeing it now.

34:53

We'll only find out in

34:55

two or three years when I tell you, "Oh, in

34:59

2025, an experiment was run with 1,000

35:03

children, and they found AC." These kinds of

35:06

experiments take time.

35:08

So, for me, listening to

35:10

teachers talk about what's

35:12

happening in the classroom is like a

35:15

thermometer. It's a thermometer.

35:16

Many of these things are anecdotal,

35:18

again. No, no, we can't take it

35:22

so seriously as a Studying with an n

35:24

with certain controls, well, no. But if

35:27

they function as a, well, at least for

35:29

me they serve as a thermostat, I mean, they

35:32

tell you what's happening there.

35:34

And I'm telling you, they tell you today, they're

35:36

talking about what they're experiencing

35:38

in the present. I follow a lot of people,

35:40

people. I follow a lot of people. Then they

35:41

write to me and say like, "Hey, did you see

35:43

that you're following this anti-baxer?" And

35:44

it's like, "Yeah, I follow a lot of crazy people."

35:47

I like to hear what's happening in

35:49

different places, in different

35:52

minds, internet bubbles.

35:54

So, I try to keep an eye on

35:56

different bubbles." And a comment

35:57

that comes up frequently with

35:59

teachers is that they're seeing

36:03

children arriving

36:05

weaker and weaker, as if they do

36:07

n't have enough

36:09

abdominal strength, or core strength, to maintain

36:12

good posture. It's like these

36:13

children are coming in a little

36:15

more, well, I don't know, softer, more

36:17

delicate, more hunched over, and their

36:23

hands tire quickly. They don't have

36:26

the strength in their hands to do

36:28

all the exercises they're

36:30

asked to do. Again, if you're

36:32

a teacher with 10 or 15 years of experience

36:34

, I imagine the

36:37

demands are the same, right? Before,

36:38

children would write for two hours straight,

36:40

and now you're seeing children whose hands are already getting

36:41

tired after 40 minutes

36:44

. So, this is something I

36:46

've analyzed a couple of times. So, I looked into

36:48

what's out

36:50

there, what's been published on the subject, and there

36:52

are very few publications that

36:56

have analyzed whether children are actually

36:59

getting weaker. Again,

37:01

this aspect of strength in children is

37:03

incredibly important. We

37:05

discussed it in the Coco

37:07

Melón episode.

37:08

Physical development in children goes hand in

37:10

hand with their neurological development

37:14

and their development as individuals. It's very

37:17

important that you, as a child,

37:19

have enough abdominal strength

37:21

to stand upright. It frees up your

37:24

arms, allows you to breathe

37:26

properly, and enables you to make other,

37:29

more refined movements. So,

37:32

strength is very important for

37:33

children. And it really caught my

37:35

attention that this

37:37

young woman mentions that if a child isn't

37:39

strong enough, they're going to

37:40

fall. Again, it's up to the child to

37:43

analyze that risk, and developing strength

37:46

is very important for children. They're

37:49

in a critical stage of their development,

37:52

so it's very important that they

37:53

develop it. And here, again, it really

37:55

catches my attention that this

37:56

young woman mentions those children who

37:58

perhaps don't have enough strength.

38:00

And what I would say to her is that children They

38:03

need to play those games to

38:06

strengthen their bodies, because

38:08

what children need isn't to do sit-

38:10

ups, it's to get on that seesaw,

38:13

climb up, tighten their abdominal muscles, and hold on tight

38:16

, because that's how

38:18

they develop strength. They need to

38:20

hang because that's how they develop

38:22

grip strength. They need to climb on

38:26

things, they need to use their bodies.

38:29

And if we don't let them use their bodies,

38:32

because we're too scared of the

38:35

place where they play, because we're too

38:36

scared that the kid

38:38

might fall, we're going to have children who aren't

38:41

developing the strength they

38:43

need, who aren't developing the

38:45

coordination they need, and

38:47

all the psychological impacts come with that.

38:49

Children who lack self-confidence, children

38:52

who don't learn to deal with

38:53

anxiety, with stress, with being

38:56

excited and feeling these

38:58

strong emotions that come with those

39:00

risky games, which they know, yes,

39:03

that pole is really hard, yes, I

39:05

could hurt myself, but I'm going

39:07

to try it anyway, not because an

39:09

adult is telling me to, because I'm

39:11

a child free to take the risk.

39:15

The second point, now to

39:17

wrap things up, has to do with adapting

39:19

this information for us. Yes,

39:22

friends, ego always plays a role when it benefits

39:24

us. The kids, what about them? The

39:26

children, man, come on, kid,

39:28

get out of here, you don't pay taxes. How do

39:29

we make everything about us?

39:31

I'd like to leave you with a thought

39:33

before I go, and that is that we sit down and

39:35

analyze how often we

39:39

expose ourselves to this kind of

39:42

risky game. How often? And let's

39:45

broaden the definition a bit because we're not

39:47

necessarily just playing around

39:49

since we're grown up, we're adults

39:51

in this house. How often do we

39:52

face manageable risk situations

39:54

? How often do we

39:56

face situations that

39:58

give us a racing heart, that teach us that going through

40:01

this

40:03

stressful moment isn't necessarily

40:06

negative, that it's something we have to

40:09

face and that we can resolve? How often do we

40:12

expose ourselves to

40:13

new things? Do we venture out? Do we take

40:15

risks? And this ranges from activities

40:17

as simple as public speaking,

40:19

being beginners in a In a

40:22

new activity, being in an

40:24

environment that challenges our bodies,

40:27

that demands something from them, but that

40:29

also takes us to a certain point of

40:32

excitement, certain strong emotions.

40:34

How often do you expose yourself to

40:36

strong emotions that aren't necessarily

40:38

negative? I mean, you know, not like you're

40:41

stressed or anxious because

40:44

HR called you or

40:46

because your boss, who's a jerk,

40:49

is yelling at you. I mean, how often do

40:51

you really feel your heart

40:52

pounding because of an activity that you're

40:56

freely choosing to do and that

41:00

generates that kind of adrenaline, those

41:03

strong emotions, that

41:06

excitement and that tachycardia that does come with

41:09

stress and anxiety,

41:11

but is part of what you have to

41:12

face, part of that cycle of

41:15

coping and being on the other side and

41:16

saying, you know what? Nothing happened, I didn't

41:19

die. It was a situation that gave me

41:21

anxiety, but I managed to resolve it. And

41:23

these activities, well, it's a

41:25

range of activities, Right? It could be

41:27

public speaking, it could be being a

41:30

beginner at something new, having

41:33

people see you fail, seeing you

41:35

make a fool of yourself, feeling embarrassed in

41:37

some way. You know, those people who, I do

41:39

n't know, go and dress up as clowns,

41:41

do a million things. There are a thousand activities

41:44

that, as adults, can

41:46

also give us this feeling of, oh, wow,

41:49

how risky. I mean, public speaking, well

41:50

, it's not that it's a risk per se

41:52

, but don't your hands sweat? Doesn't it

41:54

make you nervous?

41:56

Exposing yourself to these kinds of situations and

41:58

resolving them is something positive for

42:01

you. Just as it's positive for children, just

42:03

as it generates a

42:06

greater sense of autonomy and

42:08

self-confidence for them, it

42:09

will generate it for you too. What's

42:12

positive for children in their

42:13

development often, most

42:16

of the time, continues to be positive for

42:19

us at all stages of our

42:22

lives. We also have to take risks,

42:23

friends. We shouldn't lock

42:25

ourselves away in a bubble of It's a glass ceiling where

42:29

all we want is comfort, right?

42:32

Being uncomfortable, feeling anxious. But that

42:35

, you know, is also very good

42:37

for us. It gives us greater security, it

42:40

makes us feel small victories,

42:42

victories that are very important to have.

42:45

And sometimes a victory can be

42:47

climbing, going to a wall to climb and

42:50

encountering your worst enemy, the B5, and

42:53

saying, "I'm going to climb, I'm going to climb that

42:55

wall, and the first time I won't be able to, and

42:57

the second time maybe not either,

42:59

but while you're doing it, you

43:01

're challenging yourself psychologically and

43:03

physically." If you're going to yoga, then I'm going to do a

43:06

headstand. If you like

43:09

cycling, then I'll either jump off a

43:11

mountain or go faster. There are certain

43:14

risks we can take in

43:16

controlled environments, risks that are

43:19

completely controlled. We're

43:20

adults, friends. Let's also have some common sense

43:22

. Don't tell me you're going to

43:23

go and throw yourselves into a shark tank tomorrow

43:25

. Neither. Remember that

43:28

common sense is also very

43:29

important. Let's expose ourselves to these kinds of

43:32

activities because we, as well as

43:34

children, also benefit from

43:36

risky play.

43:38

I hope you enjoyed

43:39

today's episode. I had a great time. I

43:41

love talking about all these

43:43

development topics, how culture

43:45

impacts us, how policies are

43:47

related to how we raise our

43:49

children. It turns out that if you have access to

43:51

healthcare, you are a much more relaxed and

43:54

calm parent. Who would have thought it? It takes a little common sense

43:57

to say that

43:59

access to healthcare makes you much more at

44:01

ease. And really, take a moment to

44:02

reflect on when was the last

44:04

time you had tachycardia like that,

44:06

because you were going to do something new, because you were going to take a

44:07

chance. I mean, it's not like I'm

44:10

going to bet my house either.

44:13

Please change. Your family suffers, quit

44:15

gambling apps because it's

44:17

something that happens with age, you get

44:18

more jaded and start

44:20

taking fewer risks. Because I used to do a

44:21

lot of mountain biking, before the

44:23

pandemic I used to do mountain biking. I

44:24

love it. I loved the

44:26

mountain visit, uh, mainly cross

44:28

country, I mean, no downhill, but oh, I do

44:32

n't know, how cool. And after the

44:33

pandemic I started learning to

44:35

rock climb in the mountains and I loved it, I really

44:38

loved it. And they don't know, there the stress

44:41

stops you falling because falling

44:43

anyway was tied up. Again, these are

44:45

controlled risks, but they don't know the

44:47

stress I lived with, constantly thinking about putting my hand

44:49

in a crack and having a

44:51

spider pop out. I mean, that's when I really said, "I'm going to

44:53

kill myself." I mean, I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to dive off

44:55

this mountain

44:58

because there's no other way. Yes, I loved

45:00

doing that and you know what? I really felt that, I

45:02

mean, the whole thing is that you feel the

45:04

adrenaline, you feel the challenge of what you're going to

45:07

do, you get anxious, you get

45:10

butterflies in your stomach, your

45:11

stomach churns as you're about to go up, and when you're going up

45:14

and suddenly you get to the

45:16

top and you say, "Ah, I'm on the other

45:17

side." And it gives you a sense of well-being, and you feel

45:20

so good, and it feels so nice to have

45:23

achieved all that after going through a

45:25

rough patch, because yes, there is a kind of

45:28

happiness that is achieved when you go through a

45:30

rough patch, when you really had to make an

45:31

effort, when you really didn't know

45:34

if you were going to achieve it or not

45:35

. And that's what benefits both

45:37

children and adults. Remember

45:40

that the person sitting here doesn't have

45:41

children and isn't going to judge you for how

45:43

you're raising your children. I know that

45:46

between you and your kid.

45:48

Raise him as best you can, as

45:50

life allows. It's easy to talk

45:52

when you don't have kids. You

45:54

raise them as best you can.

45:57

At the end of the day, what we want is to

45:58

do the best job possible for these

46:01

children. I hope you don't feel judged

46:03

when I talk about these topics, which

46:05

have to do with how we are with our

46:06

parents. My mission is always for them to leave

46:08

here with extra information and never

46:11

feeling judged. And remember, if you

46:13

subscribe to the channel, I'll

46:14

personally come to your homes to give you a

46:16

hug.

46:17

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