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Raih Pendanaan Riset Kemitraan Internasional: Panduan & Tips Lolos Proposal!

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So, for the proof of LOI, MOU, and co-operative documents, we can choose one or submit more than one. For example, if you have LOI, MOU, or co-operative documents, we will accept the requirements of this function.

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Then for CV, from the applicant and partner, the statement does not have a similar funding with the same subscription, Ladies and Gentlemen. So we have prepared a template for this statement to avoid double funding with the same subscription, Ladies and Gentlemen. That can be violated by the document that we have, that is provided from this program.

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Next is the collaborative proposal in the format format we have prepared in the template in the system in the reset then there is a collaboration statement in this LOC in this LOC we have prepared a closing statement to ensure that there is equal partnership, ladies and gentlemen, which is the basis of this program. Finally, for proof

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the initial publisher proof of initial publication of the publisher, so for category A or category B can prove whether there is a proof of publication that previously existed with a partner or previously had been

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It means that it is not a duty in the application, but if there is someone who participates or shows it, it will not be an additional value from the evaluation. Then for the TKT minimum level 3 document, the validation of LPPM, LPM, or this type of language is specific to category B, namely the innovation of interpretation and the appearance of the Bapak-Ibu.

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So for category A, regarding the publication of the knowledge, it is not necessary to present the document. The RAB, the tax return, then there is the integrity letter, freedom of journalism, and ethics, which we will prepare the template in the journalism system with the title of integrity facts.

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for the material agreement document transfer agreement MTA which has been approved and which has been approved by the partner it is done or hoped to be submitted, to be delivered when there is a study in the study process there is a sample replacement, Mr. Ibu, I hope there is this agreement to mitigate the absence of

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the use of local materials from Indonesia, which is very regulated and restricted by the laws of Indonesia. And the template of all administrative requirements can be reviewed and revised again through the video research platform. We have prepared this and maybe Mr. Ibud already knows the platform very well. Next.

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Okay, Ladies and Gentlemen, we continue to the timeline of the RKI-2026 program. Indeed, we don't have much time, Ladies and Gentlemen. As Ms. Dini said earlier, the research process will be held in August-December.

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The agenda of this stage is very solid. Yesterday, on July 8, we launched a program together with other programs in the Department of Civilization and Community Affairs, and it will be closed systematically for proposal approval on July 22, 2026 at 23.59 WIB.

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It means that it's just a matter of counting the days, ladies and gentlemen. Then we will have the selection process of administration in around the third week of July and the abstention selection in the fourth week of July. Next, for the winners, we will schedule it in the first week of August. Including also later on to the next stage, the payment of contracts and fund payment at 180%.

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For the next, the purchase action agenda is what we have prepared, namely from August to December 2026. For the next stage related to monitoring and evaluation,

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internal, we will set it on the second week of October and external currency which will be the second stage of the transfer requirement, 20% will be scheduled on the third week of October and the transfer of funds, phase 2, will be scheduled on the fourth week.

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Then, we continue to the final report gathering stage. On December 0, 2027, we hope that the final report that we have prepared and we have arranged in the guidelines that you have seen, with some requirements, hopefully gathered and organized according to the criteria that we have

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determined in the second act. And after that, in the last stage, the external validation that we give a time limit of one year until the completion of the final external validation, we hope to continue in 2007 through this N111 mechanism. So, we emphasize that for the funding obligation, we must be completed by December 2026. However, for the obligation

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the funding acceptance process is not yet completed until 2027. Because we also know that the presentation of the A category, namely scientific publications, to obtain the status accepted or published that we have not determined, it takes a long time.

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Therefore, with this tight timeline, we hope that all the recipients of the presentation, the ladies and gentlemen who may be interested in submitting, can organize the presentation realistically so that all external targets can be met according to the schedule that has been set.

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Maybe our suggestion is to immediately contact foreign partners today and complete all the aggregation before the system is busy on the last day. Next. Ladies and gentlemen,

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RKI 2020, the International Management Research Program, is our bridge to show the world that Indonesian researchers are able to stand on the same level as global standards. We are waiting for the proposals from you. And thank you for your enthusiasm and extraordinary attention. I return it to Bu Yedi as the MC. Thank you.

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Okay, thank you Mrs. Budini and Mr. David for your clarification. The information that was conveyed can give a clear picture of the mechanism for the implementation of the International Partnership Research Program. I will try to offer this, do you want to immediately answer or later we will put the answer in the back, Mr. David or Mrs. Budini? I will immediately answer, after that there is BIMTEK, we will finish it first. Okay, please.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have collected some questions that have been asked for this research cooperation. Maybe the first one we will convey is a question from Mr. Kiki Adikurnia, Pertamina University. The question is,

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For research proposals in the field of national research priorities, digitalization of artificial intelligence clusters, are the components of the budget such as the license of software licenses and the rental of computing devices intended to be budgeted in the budget plan or RAB? One by one or three questions I will read first.

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One by one, right? Okay, Mr. Adi first, please answer Mr. Budini and Mr. David. May I, Mr. Adi? If you can answer. Please, Mr. David. If there is anything that needs to be added, please ask the expert to be able to answer.

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for the national news agency research proposal, this class is a license for the cost of the component of the rental of the equipment, we have stated, sir, in yesterday's guide book, including the component that is the component for the cost, we give

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The components of the equipment such as computers, laptops, cameras, etc. are only mentioned if there are specific specifications of the equipment in order to produce the output intended.

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It means, if this component is very influential or has a significant impact on foreign capital, we can or we can only remind. We just don't remind it if there is a purchase of assets or capital, Ladies and Gentlemen. If there is a body or impact, you can add it.

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Yes, may I add, Mr. David, yes, please, Madam, yes, may I add related to the rental of equipment, essentially we provide components for rental equipment as long as you show the needs as what was said by Mr. David earlier and that is of course written in the method that you

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methodology that you have included in the proposal, so if it is in the methodology, then it is really needed, we are welcome to do the rental of equipment as mentioned earlier, but if in the methodology it is

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it is not clearly visible, maybe yes, because there will be a review process later, yes, ladies and gentlemen, later on the reviewers will also ask to do a check-up, whether the rent is included in the methodology that you have suggested. That may be an addition, Mr. David, thank you. Thank you, Madam,

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to complete the answer. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we will move on to the next question, from Mr. Hebron Prasetya from Samratulangi University. The question is,

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There are three points. The first is whether the high school leadership evaluation document requires the presence of a rector or the presence of the head of the LPP. The second point is whether the test results for category A

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must be displayed, remembering that the document system must be revised, while in the guidebook the requirements are only mentioned for category B. And lastly,

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What is the high standard of high education with a reputation as a partner requirement? Is it applying for the KS World University Ranking or using other qualifications or qualifications? That's a question from Mr. Hebron, please answer it, Mrs. Dini and Mr. David. Okay, I will answer it.

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Regarding the leadership role, according to administrative regulations, the document must be from the executive board or the executive branch.

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However, because this is a formal request and involves state funding, it is highly recommended to follow the internal administration protocol in the High-Level Universities, Ladies and Gentlemen. However, in principle, the leadership of the High-Level Universities, the Rector or the Deputy Rector or the office given the right of approval,

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according to the internal management of high school students is very important to ensure accountability for the graduation of the professor. However, if this is felt because of the time constraint and it requires, if the challenge of leadership of universities requires a long time, we can only at the faculty level, we can not be reminded.

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to continue to related documents of the CKT for category A, it is true that according to the administrative requirements, the obligation of independent evaluation documents is only recommended for category B and in category A we do not require if in the system of HIDI RESET related to it is still required later please inform us so that later we can

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from the program does not set a single ranking or like the case university ranking as the only standard. However, with the Mitral Norfi clause, mainly from institutions with an international academic reputation or have excellence in the field of relevant academic knowledge,

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we hope there will be a partnership that can be proven in a measured way, for example through scientific publications with international collaboration experience and others. So the main focus of this program is the quality of substantive collaboration that is sustainable and the contribution of research teams, not just the level of partnership universities. With my permission, please, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dini and the research team.

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Yes, that's right, Mr. David, regarding the ranking, because what was expected earlier, this collaboration or partnership can be equal, if the partnership or partnership is not required, there are several rankings, the THI and others, as long as it can be proven earlier, the credibility of the partnership is called,

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it could be that the ranking of the high-level program was not high, but perhaps the expertise of the lab or the expertise of the professors was high. This is a request from the lady. Thank you. Any more questions from the experts?

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Yes, if that's enough, we will read the next question. The question is from Ms. Yusnita Rahayu, University of Riau. The question is, "Is there any evidence that collaboration with foreign researchers must be written in the form of MoU? Can it be in the form of joint authorship?" Yes, please, Ms. Juni and Mr. David.

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This is probably explained, Madam. The point is that we are pushing for a bottom-up. If MOU is just one of them, Madam. LOI or MOU, which may be in the form of G2G. But if there has been a collaboration or partnership as a bottom-up earlier, this is also mentioned, Madam, to convey earlier. She has been joined by an auto-ship, which means that the partnership has been established. This is mentioned as proof, Madam. That's all, Madam. Thank you.

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Okay, Mr. David, do you want to add anything? Or is it enough? Enough. As we have mentioned in the presentation, for MOU, it is only a requirement. We can do LOI or proof of collaboration or previous publication. Thank you. Okay, we go to the next question from Mr. Syed.

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Said Ali Akbar, University of Jaffala. The question is, in the international partnership research guide on page 7, it is written only specifically for category B, it is mandatory to present the TKT minimal 3 self-assessment document, but on the Hilary Zed website,

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Both category A and category B are still required to display TKT self-assessment. If both categories are required, is there a special format for the TKT self-assessment? Please respond, Udini and Fitra.

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please be brief in his questions and please, thank you, Mrs. Kelapa, good morning, I'm Anand Purba from the University of Sumatera, let me ask you, Pit, in the category of international partners, for example, we already have publications together

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but some of our publications are related to affiliation, for example affiliation to the university. Is it personal to the author's name or to his affiliation? This is what makes me a little confused.

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Because with affiliation, maybe we have a lot of writing cooperation, but with our partner personnel, there are only a few publications. Can we include all the publications as a condition, proof, publications or cooperation? Maybe that's all, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Atman. Please respond. Okay, allow me to answer.

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for joint publication, basically, we press in the beginning, for the conditions in the initial publication, it is not a duty, Mr. Adana, first, that. For the second, for affiliation, whether a partner or a senior teacher,

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This program facilitates collaboration between individual level to individual level to strengthen academic knowledge. And the publication evidence in this high program can be included in the administrative requirements that will be issued by the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Education.

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So, this program can combine the aspects of institutional affiliation and personal intelligence to achieve collaborative research outcomes. So, we can receive high-level affiliation or individual affiliation, but only for our administrative health in this program, Mr. Adhani.

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I want to ask you, Ms. Aka. Yes, maybe I will continue a little, Mr. Ibu. There were also many questions that were the same. What if we move to affiliation? So, Mr. Ibu, please repeat the terms of the partnership requirements earlier. It can be the nature of U2U, Mr. Ibu, MOU or LIA, which is institutional. But it can also be proven, Mr. Ibu, if you said earlier, Mr. David, if you have ever been an individual,

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joint authorship in publication or joint research as long as there is evidence, please, that's the point, the point is like this, ladies and gentlemen, we are designing this program, so the partnership can be realized, ladies and gentlemen, the partnership that is really the hope is really a meaningful partnership, ladies and gentlemen, so it can take advantage of the LOA

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or sorry, what is the MOJ that has been done between YouTube or earlier, the network of your own father with the request of individuals, that's what you introduced, so for example, if there is a change that is in progress, the question is whether, for example, it can still be, it can be, Mrs. Kan, the conditions for cooperation with the individual are allowed or the institution is allowed, so if, for example, from a high school, this

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move to the school, it is still affected by you. The point is that the cooperation has been there and that proves that the cooperation that you will do will be a common cooperation. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Dini.

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Thank you, Mrs. Dini and Mr. David. We will give one more chance, because we still have two sessions left. Please, from Atma Jaya University. Good morning. I can hear you, ma'am.

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Thank you. Maybe Ms. Dini's explanation has answered a little. So my question is, in Mitra, because of the name of the individual, we can write two people, but from the same school, same university, same MOU. Why do I need to write two? Because we have been working together since 2016,

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and he is an emeritus this year. But in the process, there is actually already a team. So if there is proof of joint publication cooperation, actually more than 2016 with the emeritus, but starting this year, we have started to exist and this year it just happened to be a process in the first tier. So the point is just to emphasize

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if there are two names with one in the MRR column, one active lecturer, is it recommended from the same school or the same university? Although it seems to have been answered by Mrs. Dini earlier. Maybe a little, this is about the past,

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Okay.

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If the partner is very much affected, there is no time, there is no limit to how much, but maybe just bear in mind when you choose a publication or what, the partner is considered as a joint authorship.

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Thank you, Miss. One last thing. In the proposal research, even though the recipient is an individual, but in the research I can have a team, right? Because in the research I will definitely have an assistant and so on. But this is still the individual recipient.

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- Yes. - Please, you can arrange it, but... - Okay. - Like what you said, that's the point, Ms. Yati. We always encourage individuals to move forward. If your team, for example, has other members, please encourage them to apply. Thank you, Ms. Dwi. Thank you, Ms. Dwi. Thank you, Ms. Yati. I'll return it. Thank you. Okay. Mr. and Mrs. Yati,

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There are still two more sessions. If we may, we have three quick questions. We will answer the questions in the chat. We will finish the questions for these three people. Please, Mr. Yaroin, then Mr. Bagus, and finally Mr. Alief.

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Yes, please Mr. Yarwin, please tell us where the institution is from.

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Thank you for the opportunity. So the question is actually almost the same as before, that for the recruiter, the point is the individual, for example, we from Indonesia are individuals, then for our partners, it can be 2 or 3 people for partners. Well, actually just to emphasize that and also for the publication later, it means that our team can help during the process.

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for example, our policy is accepted, it helps the process to go on. Then also in relation to the draft, we have tried to arrange it in a format, but we see if there is no word limit, then the column for the list of the rules is like what, maybe that's from me.

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for Mr. David, you can help answer Mr. David, the second question, the second question, for the ones that are clear, sir, so please remind us for the first question for those related to the technique, please for the word limit, please Mr. David, please help answer Yes, thank you for the question, sir, so for the definition of the word limit, in our proposal, we don't

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to regulate that matter, sir. For sure. But what we regulate is the use of the language. We hope to be able to use Indonesian language, sir. For the use of proposal writing, sir. Thank you. Okay, that's enough, Mr. David and Mrs. Dini. We continue to the next question from Mr. Bagas. Please, Mr. Bagas from BINUS.

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Thank you very much, Ms. Yeti, for your help. I would like to ask you,

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First, there are two questions. I was a bit confused in the chat column. There is a question about whether the proposal is in English or Indonesian. There was an answer that said it was in English. But in the survey, it was in Indonesian. I just want to make sure if it is in English or not. Second, for the document material transfer agreement,

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what is the form of the form? Because it is indeed an indispensable feature, but when we want to fill it, is there an example related to it? And thirdly, this is a very tight data, will there be a connection that can be connected if there is a question from us? Thank you very much before. Thank you, Mr. Bagas. Maybe Mr. Alief wants to continue or you want to answer immediately, Mrs. Dini? No, first, Mrs. Yati, this is MTA, Mrs. Yati, please answer, help answer.

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I think it's Yuti who answered MTA. Oh, it's MTA's question from Mr. Bagas.

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Hi, Mr. Bagas, sorry, for MTA itself, can you repeat it, Mr. Bagas? Yes, it was needed, whether the template or something like that, it's not mandatory, it's just needed, right? If there is a regulation, it's okay, it's related to MTA, it's true because the concern for MTA itself is for research in the field of science,

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science, because there is usually a change or replacement of the sample out. Well, that can be identified from the beginning, whether in the future we will need replacement of the sample, if there is a need for replacement of the sample from the inside out,

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It is mandatory to have a law, because I am not the one who speaks, it is the law. We can see it in the 11th Law, the Law of Seeds and Nasibtec, and please be careful because there are indeed sanctions. So the concern is like that. Again, for MTA itself, if the high-ranking authority itself already has a template, it can be used, but if it doesn't exist yet, we have prepared it.

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Is there anything else you want to add, Mr. David? Yes, Mr. Farhan, the MTA was just that if in the research process later there will be sampling, which will be our duty, if the time is tight for

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the signature of the MTA agreement, we can submit or send to us the commitment letter of the MTA arrangement. If the MTA document requires more time. Okay, that's enough. Mr. Bagas, the question has been answered. Next, Mr. Alief.

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Hi, please, sir, from Surakarta, yes, this is a request, I'm sorry, I'm using the computer, Mas Alif and this is the camera, I'm sorry, it's a little error, so yes, Assalamualaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh, I'm Bu Amber from the Mahmadiyah University of Surakarta, permission to confirm again

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For example, we have never had a joint publication, but we are still conducting research cooperation, so the research is not finished, so it is not possible to publish it.

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whether the proof of cooperation with the partner or the contract certificate of our research that is running can be used as evidence because the previous report is still on progress like that. Thank you very much. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. May I answer, Ms. Yati? May I ask for your permission? Oh, excuse me, who is it? I'm sorry.

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Ibu Amba, greetings to you. Ibu, I'm reminded of what we said earlier, there is a lot of evidence of friendship. For example, if before the Joy Reset, there was U2U, it was also mentioned, the UMOU U2U is allowed, with the high education, it is mentioned.

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If you have even better, you already have joint research, it's just that it's proven that there is a research like what, it's okay, it's very okay, Ibu. If we actually have the same vision, at that time we submitted to external funding and God Almighty hasn't passed yet, but we have

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already cooperating, it can also be considered as proof of cooperation with the partner

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Yes, I can. Thank you. Because yesterday, the publication was not finished. The process is long, if it's a YouTube institution. If there is an individual, please. Thank you, Ms. Bunda Dini. Assalamualaikum. Waalaikumsalam. Thank you, ma'am.

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Okay, we still have 3 minutes left. Can I ask one more question?

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We give the opportunity to Ms. Sri Lestari, after which we will move on to the next session. Please, Ms. Sri Lestari, the question is quite short, please. Thank you, Ms. Yeti, for asking about partners. For one partner, this must be for one proposal proposal or maybe it can be for several proposals. That's all, thank you.

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Please respond. Yes, I would like to ask a question. As a matter of fact, the substance is different, right? If we don't elaborate, it depends. If the substance is different, it can't be, for example,

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Thank you, Ms. Nini.

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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we hope for those who have not had a chance to respond to the questions, please go to the Zoom chat column because our team will also help answer. For the next, we, oh, before going to the next session, excuse me, Mrs. Dini and

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Ladies and gentlemen, please take a photo with us first, because I'm afraid I'll forget at the end. Please open the camera, we will take a photo together first before moving on to the next session. Maybe I will guide you for the photo. From the team, maybe Mas Yuda or Ms. Isma can help to take a photo. Or Ms. Isma, please take a picture for the other person.

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Okay, maybe it's ready, please continue, Ms. Iafri, the important thing is to open the camp. One, two, three. Is it done? Is there a lot of continuation? Continue again? Oh, it's been done from earlier, okay. Okay, thank you, Ms. Ibu. We will continue to the next session. Maybe, Mr. Abdulrahman, we have already discussed only one. Please, Mr. Abdulrahman. Oh, okay, please, Mr. Abdulrahman. Next, please, excuse me. Then, we have to go to the next session, Ms. Ibu.

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Assalamualaikum, Madam. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. May I ask a question? Actually, I have three questions. The first question has been answered by Mr. Terry, namely, this proposal can only be submitted by individuals. The second question is, are there certain collaborator countries?

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Is there a minimum or maximum limit for the number of partners in a proposal?

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No, sir. The point is, regarding funding, this is still a research, sir. There are two researches and also the committee, sir. So, this research is a minimum of 60% of the total funding that you have suggested.

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40% minimum, this is a maximum of 40% for seed funding actually for the journey of the dynasty that you are doing so please be adjusted proportionally, if it is close, please just say that Malaysia or Singapore with the border in both countries can be, but if it is far away, it is not possible, sir, so please just adjust it, sir, but not exceeding the requirement, sir, thank you, thank you, madam

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Thank you, Mr. Abdul Rahman, Ms. Dini. Let's move on to the next session. For the material, many of you have asked, we will convey it in the last session. Don't worry, we will definitely convey it.

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After understanding the policy and mechanism of the program, we will see the implementation of the proposal application process through the HILI RESET platform. Through this session, we hope that all participants will gain a more practical understanding of the stage of proposal application in the future. For that, we invite the HILI RESET platform development team.

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Thank you, Bihati. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Waalaikumsalam. Ladies and gentlemen, in this session, we will explain the mechanism of proposal approval through the HILI RESET system.

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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, this session is as simple as it is, so I will tell you technically how you can submit your proposal through the application that we have provided. Ladies and gentlemen, please visit hiludiset.kempdiktisayitek.go.id later. Later, please, ladies and gentlemen, you can directly log in there.

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Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any problems, please do a password reset on this page. We will prepare a guide there. And if you still have any problems, please contact the director of P3M or any institution in your place.

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because in the management unit of each institution, we have the access to help you access this website, either to reset the password or activate your account. I will continue.

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If you have successfully logged in, there are quite a few schemes available here because there are three schemes that are currently running, one of which is international communication. Please, you can access it directly through the menu that we have provided here. And later, you can directly submit your proposal directly through the menu that we have provided.

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Here, I will give some explanations that have been explained by Mr. David and also pressed by Tim Substansi related to the mechanism of the system's implementation. So indeed, the mechanism of implementation in the system, we refer to the guidance that is already on the website as well, which can be recommended by you. We try to translate it into the system, so hopefully it can make it easier for you to implement the implementation.

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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, so later when you make the first step, there was also a question yesterday, why there is no external choice and so on. Indeed, this is the scenario we made.

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you enter the title of the application first, then it is automatically selected, no need to change, this is also defined from the beginning. After you save the application as draft, this is only active if the application is complete, then you will be invited to enter a more detailed application.

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Later, please fill in the TKT here. So later, please fill this in first, because here later the role we made in the system is a minimum of 3 TKTs.

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Please continue with the selection of the proposal theme, we have selected the theme, then the focus area, then the knowledge field, please adjust it to the knowledge field of the ladies and gentlemen. And the last one, the special field related to CSTI, we also write it here. Well, next, this is a bit crucial, ladies and gentlemen.

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, please refer to the template from the proposal that was previously asked in the system in the comments column related to the template, we have prepared it in the system as well. Well, then the crucial thing here, ladies and gentlemen, is related to the selection of the outside. So, if in the guide it is written that there is category A, whose outside is in the form of journal G1 or G2,

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Then there is category B with quite detailed outputs, this is later required by you to choose one, either in the form of technology products, policy models, or design works. Why do I say this selection is crucial? Because it determines the maximum budget that you can offer.

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and later the system will also check the type of output that you choose and will compare it with the RAB that you will arrange later for category A later RAB = Rp. 150 million, then category B = Rp. 200 million. Well, later the selection of the output category that you choose here will determine how many budgets you can submit. Here we give notifications, it is best to choose the output first because later it will become a filter

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what is the maximum budget that you can choose? Can the external category be replaced after filling in the RAP? Yes, but later it will also be checked again. So, for example, you initially chose category B with a maximum budget of Rp. 200 million, then the RAP has been set to the maximum amount of Rp. 200 million, then after discussing with the team and so on, you changed it to

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the smaller one, which is Rp. 150,000, then in the RAB later we will also give a notification that the budget will exceed the maximum limit according to the outside, ladies and gentlemen. So that's it.

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Regarding the components that can be included in the RAB, we have provided it here, ladies and gentlemen. Later, this also refers to the guidance. So, the guidance is quite detailed, what components can be selected. Later, we are happy here, ladies and gentlemen.

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And later, you can check the summary of each group of components, later you will see what components you have used, with the nominal or total budget, how many are included.

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At the end, you can add your partner. Here, please complete the identity of the partner, such as the name of the institution, the name of the lecturer or the name of the partner, the name of the leader, and so on. Please complete it later. Then,

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Finally, please complete the requested documents. I was asked about the self-assessment TKT document, where the information is mandatory for those selected outside category A. We will update it later, so it will only appear outside category B.

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At the end, we will give information regarding the results of the green-green report. Please check it again later.

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We have provided enough detailed information, please complete it later. This will also filter the RAP, if there is an external change where the RAP is already complete, as I said earlier, it will also appear here.

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This is the last door to check the details of your application. If later everything is green, it is appropriate, the submit button will be active. If later technically you have a problem, we have provided assistance. Please later on the front page of Hiliriset,

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We have already posted the link for the assistance center. For now, we use Bapak-Ibu's telegram. Later, please ask there. Later, God willing, our team or the DHK team will answer the questions from Bapak-Ibu.

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So, ladies and gentlemen, related to the mechanism for issuing international monitoring research proposals in the HILI RESEARCH system, thank you for your questions, ladies and gentlemen, we return to the moderator. That's all, Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh, thank you Mr. Dwi Susanto for his explanation.

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We open the Q&A session, Mr. Dewi. We may give the opportunity for 3-5 people to ask. Maybe, ladies and gentlemen, please raise your hand. This is for the session question, which Mr. Derajat has just given. Ms. Anggita Kirana, would you like to ask? Yes, good afternoon, Mr. Dewi. Good afternoon. Can you hear me?

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This question is related to the Hillary Zet platform.

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Because this is a session, Mr. Dwi, please. Yes, that's right. What I want to ask is the RAB budget component. So, coincidentally, our research plan is related to eye tracking device, which requires programmers to install the stimulus, the tech stimulus.

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Is this for the honor of the programmer? Will it be according to the InKindu honor? That's my question. Thank you. Please continue to respond.

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Yes, this is actually also a question to the substance team, Ms. Yeti, because indeed if the one in the system is adjusted to the one in the building, yes, like that. So if the one in the system, maybe I answer from the side that we provide in the system, yes, ladies and gentlemen. If in the system that we provide for research honorarium, yes, ladies and gentlemen, for development honorarium,

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I feel that there is no component that we prepare in the system. But, I think the substance team, Ms. Pipit or maybe Ms. Dini, can clarify.

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I allow to add, yes, in honorarium, indeed in the RAB that is in our application, we only give honor, maybe check, if I'm wrong, honor for researchers, then researchers' assistants, then

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administrative and field assistant, if I'm not mistaken, so there are four, so later, you said that there is a development, maybe we will categorize as a research assistant, maybe yes, if the honor is really given, but of course, sir,

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the nominal cannot follow what you have just said because the honor for the assistant researcher and the field assistant has a value that has been determined in the SDM, so it is indeed what can be

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So, we just have to adjust it to the SBM. So, we can't use the different standards. So, our approach is to use the SBM. So, if there are additional developments, we can use it as a research assistant or

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field assistant but the number of honors is adjusted according to the SBN, maybe the addition is Mas Dwi, thank you Mr. Ibra, maybe from the finance team, is there anyone who can add? I want to confirm again, so for this, is the energy considered as a professional energy?

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If the honorarium is in the category, there are only four, that's it, Ma'am. If it's in point F, I think reading that there is another point F or other outputs that are needed, it still can't be included in point F. Which one? I'll check it later. In RAB, there is point F, other operational needs.

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Yes, actually what we are worried about is the provision of an unauthorized fee according to the SBM, Ms. Ang. So, even though there is a fee for the expert, in the SBM it is already regulated, yes, the fee, for example, we invite the source, it is a maximum of 3 hours

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and the nominal, if I'm not mistaken, is around Rp. 900,000 per hour. So that's the only thing that can be accommodated by us. So indeed, the values ​​please be adjusted to the SBN. That's all actually. Oh, so there is no solution, ma'am? No, there is no solution, ma'am. That's the financial rules. So we follow the financial rules that the government does.

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Okay, good afternoon, this is the answer. Thank you for the question. Maybe we continue, Mr. Ria, two more questions, sir. Please for Ms. Seri Restari.

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Thank you, Ms. Yeti. The first question is related to the system. At the beginning, it was about filling out the TKT. This is related to category A. Will we still fill out the TKT according to the proposal? It must be TKT 3, right?

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or it is made as a TKT target because if it is included in the proposal, it is related to the outside, there is an indicator that is conveyed there is

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related to TKT 3-4 and so on. Then the second question is related to the honor. If we look at the investigation page, it is only the head of the researcher and also a partner. Is it for honor?

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related to research, is it an honor for our internal research or also with the honor of a partner like that? Thank you. Okay, Mr. Dwi, please allow me to answer the question from Ms. Sri Lestari, Mr. Dwi, for ... I'm sorry, Mr. Dwi, I'm sorry, Mr. Dwi. Come in, Mr. David, please. Sorry.

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To answer earlier, for the partner's honorarium, we have already stated in the presentation earlier that this program does not recommend paying a partner's honorarium, namely for domestic or Indonesian immigrants.

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Even for the cost of the mobility of the partner researcher, it is not allowed. Only for the mobility of our consumers in Indonesia. Thank you. That's enough. Mr. Dwi, do you want to add anything? Yes, there was something related to TKT. Maybe Ms. Wiwit can add. In the system,

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TKT existing, the minimum. So, as far as you are concerned, for TKT to be filled in the minimum number 3, you can continue the application, sir. So, for now, the external category is removed, selected A or B, yes. For application in the system, what is the entry?

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for the entry of the proposal, later it will still fill the TKT, later there will be a self-assessment, there, ladies and gentlemen, please fill it later, yes, the minimum TKT is 3, so that we can continue the proposal, yes, so if what is in the current system for the proposal is TKT existing, yes, not the TKT target, like that.

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That's all for the addition, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dewi. Maybe one more chance, Ms. Kartini, please, Ms. Kartini, a question for the HILI Research Platform, please. Yes, thank you, Ms. Yeti. My question is, there are two, the first is related to the LAP form, if I'm not mistaken, yesterday I was guided to find a link to download

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LAB in the form of Excel. Is it mandatory to fill it in and then displayed in the proposal or is it enough that we fill it in the system LAB?

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That's the first. Then, if I look at the LABD system, the components are very complete, including, for example, in the data collection process, there are components for consumption and others. But if I read in the guide, it is not specified that there are consumption components for internal. Well, does it mean that the components in the system are not

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Is it automatic or not? Is it possible to fill it? Or what is it like? That's what I'm still a bit confused about. In the system, there are components that are meant, but in the RAP or in the guidance, it is not corrected. Like that. Thank you. Okay, I'll answer Ms. Yeti right away.

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Thank you for the question, Ms. Kartini. So, the main guidance is still guided, Ms. Kartini. Later, for the RAB component, we will try to check it again to be synchronized again with the guidance. So, if there are components that are not in accordance with the guidance, we will adjust it later. But for the main guidance, it is still guided, ladies and gentlemen.

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So, I hope this answers the question. Then, what about the Excel earlier, sir? Oh yes, sorry. Okay, the Excel is fine later. So, the filling, technically, we do not provide the Excel form for RAB, ladies and gentlemen.

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We will add the full RAB, which can be submitted in Excel form. In addition, we will also submit the entire proposal. That means, the proposal that you submitted, added with the appearance,

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the results of the RAB entry, so that when you submit it, you can submit it entirely, all the documents, the proposal, the display documents, and also the results of the RAB. So that you don't need to do the RAB filling twice, it's enough in the system. Thank you, Mr. Dwi. There is still time, maybe one more person, Ms. Yola Bertilsyah, please.

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Thank you, Ms. Taswudu. I want to ask about, I have tried to see the RAB, about mobility, it's 40%, but I still have doubts about the increase in the cost of, for example, transportation, living allowance, is it free of the researcher himself to determine or is there a limit or regulation? Thank you, Ms. maybe that's all.

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I allow you to answer, Mrs. Yola, according to the SPM, yes, Mrs. Yes, so it's actually a percentage or a percentage of 40% is the maximum because the research itself, while we say this is a minimum of 60% of the proceeds, so if needed, there is actually a seed funding, Mrs. Yes, if the cooperation is

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So, according to the rules, according to the SPM, for the ticket, there is an SPM, what is the name of the flight transportation fee, how much is the flight fee, for going abroad, maybe if there is a daily wage abroad, but if it is not enough,

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can be adjusted whether there is a relationship, we also push the nature of this is also in kind, if it is from a high school there or this can provide accommodation or support like what is this very, very, we push there, that's it, again,

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this is the nature of seed funding, Mrs. Munggo, if it is used as needed and the use of the use of this kind of property, Mrs. Munggo, there is a SME for the development of the national economy, there is a SME, Mrs. Munggo, you can arrange it, Mrs. Munggo, thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Munggo, can I ask one more question, Mrs. Munggo? Can we, Mrs. Munggo, if our partners there, they also, we study, we bring garbage, we study where we are, our financing,

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But if we want to carry out a continuous analysis, maybe they have their own funding. So if later in the paper we acknowledge, this paper is published, for example, we as the president and they as the coroners.

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corresponding actors, then later the acknowledged paper that was published was not only from, for example, a thank you statement because the funding is from us, RKI, but also from them, so it can be confirmed, right? Yes, please, ma'am. Again, ma'am, the statement was not for the committee, but for the investigation. Yes, but if it's in the published paper, it's okay, ma'am. Yes, please. Thank you. Thank you for your response, Budi. Mr. Dewi, do you want to add anything? No, that's enough, Ms. Yati.

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enough, yes, okay, maybe if there is nothing to be said, we can move on to the next session, before that, we would like to thank you for what has been said, next we will go to the panel discussion, ladies and gentlemen, which we are proud of the success of an international research initiative not only determined by the availability of funding programs, but more than that, a

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global network development, good research management system, and the ability to produce quality research and give a real impact. To enrich from that perspective, we will enter the panel discussion session that has presented experts who have extensive experience in managing international research cooperation. For that, we invite Prof. El Fahmi, Prof. Dhradjat, Prof. Dhradjat, is it already?

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We invite Prof. Drajat, then Prof. El Fahmi, and finally Dr. Pipit Anggraini. We invite Prof. Drajat, have you been present on this Zoom?

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Yes, let me convey some points. I'm sorry if I'm in a hurry. Please take your time. I got the topic of the Lord's Prayer in

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1:03:53

This is one of the breakthroughs I think so that we can use this program as well as possible, Mr. Dismaliana. So Mrs. Dini has often said several times that there is only seed funding because there are not many. Meanwhile, what I saw earlier, the total of the registration is more than 700,000. So the meaning of seed funding is of course a stimulus fund, Mr. Dini.

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The stimulus funds are not only this, of course, but this is one of the stimulus funds so that we can get other benefits for this international collaboration. Next slide. I will explain how important it is for this international collaboration for the high-level leadership of Indonesia, and how the high-level leadership plays a role in increasing international collaboration.

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As mentioned earlier, the purpose of this scheme by Dubini is to strengthen the collaboration of Indonesian researchers with international partners. Please, if possible, in this next slide. Who is selecting? Okay, good.

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Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, we understand very well that now we are expected, we are expected by, of course, the Indonesian government, for us to be able to innovate, to innovate in the global world, where it becomes our image, our image in Indonesia, that is, we are also parallel with other countries in terms of research and innovation,

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So, some of the measures that we have heard so far, we have planned, such as world class universities, international and global universities, which every year make the government or the higher authorities busy in how to achieve it.

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For that, this activity can be a stimulus, a incentive for us to do various activities, such as collaborations with foreign countries. Ladies and gentlemen, when we have collaborations abroad, we have a global network,

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Global network.

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Excellent. Our indicators can be from our own research, we can be a foreign university, a friend of our country, then the next indicator we can publish in the emergency journal, then we will be recognized internationally. So that's achieved when we have international collaboration.

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Some of the big programs in Indonesia have already had international collaboration. You may not have had any collaboration, so you may be interested in using this program.

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Almost all high-level institutions in Indonesia, especially the high-level institutions of the National Assembly, the big high-level institutions, have a collaboration. This will be further upgraded. We will go up the class, high-level institutions that are already good, go up the league, go up, then those who haven't, go up again, and so on. This is what we call the stimulus, the stimulus.

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It is important, and coincidentally, there are several institutional schemes. I know that this is being discussed, hopefully it will be useful for MIT and other universities.

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Then this is also born, international collaboration, which we can individually improve. Now, for example, we usually, some of us, these teachers are alumni of higher education abroad, both in Europe, in America, in Malaysia, in Indonesia too. We have been working together. Well, how does that kind of cooperation not only stop when

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We have already done it, but we take advantage of it. We take advantage of it and continue to work to improve so that we have international recognition. Indeed, Mr. Ibu, the international recognition is not just the government.

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So, substantially, this international cooperation can lead us, lead Indonesian femininity, to rise to the international level. Hopefully, we will be like NUS, like the one from the week before, with a good relationship with high-quality women. Then, the hope is that if our barbershop is abroad, it will have a different institution, like individual.

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The institutions that may have a lower ranking than us, but the professor is a professor in the world. A professor with good performance in the world. That's why it's important to develop global collaboration, international cooperation.

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Among them, there are some that are not only excluded from the high school diploma, but also academic problems, academic, and academic studies, etc. It would be better if you get this international research, it will also bring students.

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So, not only do we conduct research, but also this research continues to the next research with other studies, even foreign studies, so that there can be double degree that we are vaccinated. So the output is not only that we publish, but also that we want, this is a stimulus, so that we are really close to the relationship,

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in the context of the ITB, I said yesterday, the director of research and innovation at the ITB, there is finally something that ends in cooperation or funding, for example, the funding is that we are now issuing funds, tomorrow the high-level government that becomes our minister, our university, he issued the same funds, the same amount, so if we are 150,

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The same country, our fund rate is also using Rp150,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

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academic, or even international, you can see this slide, this is also a student exchange, for example, this will indeed increase the performance of high performance, high performance, if later there is a high performance, you can get this research, which previously was not much,

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So, because it's the beginning, the starting point for increasing collaboration with the international community. So, it's clear that we don't have a record of our history, but our record is one of the other criteria.

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Maybe I will go to the next slide. Please, whoever can help. In the next slide, I will explain individually. We often work together with our former foreign professor, or even we meet once when we travel abroad, or we communicate via email, for example.

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Individuals are the ones who drive, we are the ones who initiate research. But in fact, the high school has an important role in bringing its students, its academic civil society, to develop international collaboration.

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with the outside, it will be quoted later, right? Even if we have a network, network, network, so that it can be useful for us to develop. So, this high-speed transportation is actively communicating, and it can be part of the high-speed transportation, which is active in cooperation with other high-speed transport, or even the world of industry abroad. This needs to be built strongly, strongly in the area of cooperation. And the first strong cooperation is the high-speed transportation.

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The most important thing is that high-income families can increase their writing quality and increase funding from various sources in the country. My usual language is how high-income families have begun to develop and increase the research ecosystem.

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and innovation in the high-rise buildings. So if we build this, it can start from the simple one, then it goes up, goes up the class, and so on. If, for example, we don't have the research funds, maybe our students are encouraged to, for example, make a publication, a review, for example. This is one of the high-rise buildings' strategies, to have the spirit or design strategy to increase

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high-tech ecosystem research and innovation so that the teachers are willing to do it, especially if the high-tech university can spend funds, of course this is very limited, depending on the type of university. If you are a teacher, it is usually the same as investing. At first we invest, but then we use the stimulus to get

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international international

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When our collaboration is called research collaboration, it's not just research, it's also our students, our students with disabilities, with disabilities, then business school, from abroad, and so on. So this domino effect is what we expect from our research programs. So not only this, but also this is just a stimulus, just a stimulus to produce various outputs.

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The next important thing is that we increase the competitiveness of high-level students, including those who are in the top schools. The top schools means that the teachers are more and more willing to do their best.

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research and innovation, quality of the research, increasing its publication. Earlier in the meeting, Mr. Dini has said how this international scheme is to promote high-level institutions to have co-authorship, that is, joint publication with high-level institutions abroad. One of the real handicap for us, for the students of the UID, maybe not for everyone, but there may be some who have a handicap,

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It's hard to write in English. Then we join publications, we can share knowledge, or how we work with our foreign authorities.

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This SDM Mingguld is one of our efforts with international cooperation. We are not just doing it locally, nationally, or globally.

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or regional, but also we are also global. By doing partnerships, collaborations, it will further increase our understanding of knowledge that is different from ours, but we can also work as a team, not only a team from within the country, but also from abroad.

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Now, I repeat again that the most important thing is how we are in the high school. This is the high school, yes. The high school creates a strong ecosystem of research and innovation. So, the teachers are active, active, writing proposals, writing proposals, communicating with the outside world, with the students. They don't have to be in the outside world.

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or yes we communicate with the country, the impact is extraordinary as well as the communication with other countries. Excuse me, Prof, it's two minutes later, Prof. Oh okay, okay. Two minutes later, Prof. Please, Prof. Two minutes later. Okay, this is the most important thing, and in these two minutes I want to remind you that

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For the higher education to play a role so that the teachers who may be individually, individually do not have partners abroad, then the higher education opens up the access, the intense communication with the higher education from the outside of the country.

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And if we can, we will be encouraged to maintain the ecosystem of innovation of Indonesian professors to build Indonesia to be a more developed Indonesia. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Thank you Prof. Al Fahmi for sharing this valuable information. Next, has Prof. Drajat been on Zoom?

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Okay, please Prof. Dredjat. Okay, thank you. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. What I want to say has been said by Prof. Afmi. The PPT is not this, it's changed.

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The point is related to the problem or not problem, but opportunity how this international partnership strategy or research can be a driver, accelerator, boosting of our performance and the advantages of our high education in Indonesia. Next slide, please.

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I just want to remind you of two slides. The first slide was explained by Prof. Fahmi. I just want to remind you in the proposals of the two of you, you need to calculate or write down some things that are cosmopolitanism.

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into international values. What are they? The first is the GEDSI issue. Gender Equity, Disability, Social Inclusion. There are data about men and women, there are links to openness, inclusion, and so on. Please, it also becomes part of the agenda, it is also planned, of course,

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when possible, but if it is very unlikely, because what is being researched is AMOBA, there is no gender, AMOBA should not be, but the impact, the impact, the benefit can be calculated by GEDSI, also SDGs, please, it can be noted, included, because global value, cosmopolitan value,

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will be a stronghold in our pro-contribution in the world.

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including the strategy of continuity. So it's not just cooperation, but also how the cooperation will continue to run after the funding is completed. Of course, it can move to other funding, but from this funding there is already a projection that if this is finished, not only

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to implement the financing, but also the continuity of cooperation between the high schools. This becomes access and becomes an increase in strength related to the increase in research, data, local, international, and so on.

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The second slide that I want to remind you in the arrangement is based on my experience in implementing or implementing an international collaboration research and also in conducting international proposal review. First, there is a change of agreement.

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what has been done in the proposal suddenly in Indonesia the movement has turned to the right or usually in Indonesia the gap becomes wider while friends abroad are still with the same dimension

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I found it when I was checking and then my friends in foreign partners were a bit shocked at that moment. Meanwhile, various things have developed on the field because of the problems on the field. This is what our partners have to talk about before and after and there is still control. Therefore, the meetings

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It is important to update the possibility of the expansion of the land in the field that must change our proposal. Sometimes friends from abroad still follow it. The second problem is the proposal that does not make sense.

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There is a study that I have reviewed, it is related to the development of the mass public school as a zero carbon. How to arrange the SDM, how to arrange the equipment, even though in Indonesia it cannot be done by the mass public school. Because the mass public school is under the education ministry, which is not located in the district, but in

1:24:35

The city government, our friends from abroad often don't understand, so when there is a problem, for example, the dynasty does not agree with our policy or the dynasty asks for a change, then the friends in the family who don't understand, then it becomes a problem. Therefore, this needs to be discussed, the decentralization context,

1:24:58

Then there is a context related to culture and legal rules. This is a crucial and very frequent problem, and this must be understood first and remembered that if there are problems in these contexts, changes are possible.

1:25:21

but not change completely but in the implementation of the research

1:25:30

For example, sometimes I am a researcher in the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Health asks us to go to BAPEDA. So, more parties have to be involved. Friends abroad sometimes don't understand that because we are different, our culture and our cooperation system. Third is the unclear division of tasks. Often foreign partners

1:25:53

only as a consultant, only as a helper for us to analyze. Well, this should be clear from the beginning in the research steps, what he does,

1:26:06

How many times he visited or not visited but with Zoom. Then what is his contribution in this research? Is it a laboratory? Is it a ...? This must be clear at the beginning, ladies and gentlemen. So that it is not as if foreign researchers are just partners,

1:26:33

or just the organization or also become a kind of consultant or also as a source because this is a joint study, so it must be together then the fourth is the continuity of cooperation, the continuity of cooperation will be long if it does produce externalities, whether the externalities are patterns

1:26:58

whether the content is patented, whether the content is a product, whether it is a journal, this must be agreed to be the fifth, especially in intellectual wealth, if it can be commercialized later,

1:27:18

How is the commercialization arrangement? Not only taking care of the patent, but when commercialized, it is considered long-term and there is a possibility, then how is the arrangement? What is the percentage? Who manages it? How? How if the file has been moved or how? And so on. It often becomes a problem that arises, and therefore at the beginning of socialization, we remind

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these problems do not happen. Of course, there are many problems that occur along these five points, but in general, the problem is in these five points. So, ladies and gentlemen, I hope it can be an input for the perfection of the proposal and the continuity of the study. I hope I can return it. Thank you, Mr. President, for this extraordinary sharing.

1:28:23

Then we will just go straight to the next speakers, Dr. Pipit Anggren. To Mrs. Pipit, please. Thank you, Mrs. Yeti, Ladies and Gentlemen, all of you. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

1:28:43

Good afternoon. On this occasion, I will be talking about how implementation management and strategies to achieve the outcome of this international intelligence research.

1:28:58

So, the main message is that the success of this program is not determined by a good proposal, but also the management of professional research, collaborative and outside orientation. Next slide. Next slide. Not yet moved. Next slide. Maybe the slide.

1:30:03

I'm sorry, I had to cut the line here. Okay, I thought I was the one who got the problem. No, please share it with your friends. The slide is for David, maybe? Okay, let's go to the next slide. Thank you.

1:30:46

Regarding international partnership, it is essential from our international partnership research program, it is equal partnership or equal partnership. It means that foreign partners are not only the supporters,

1:31:06

but they really become scientific partners who provide intellectual contribution since the arrangement of methodology, the implementation of experiments, data analysis, and even joint publication.

1:31:17

This collaboration is expected to produce knowledge exchange, the utilization of shared facilities, validation of research results, and the increase in capacity of both parties. This principle is what differentiates international partnership research from ordinary administrative cooperation. In this research management cycle,

1:31:46

There are several things that can be a reference, of course, the first stage is the planning stage, which is to agree on the purpose of the research, the purpose of the work environment, then the method that will be done, the exit target, and the schedule of activities.

1:32:07

In the second stage, this is the implementation stage, namely the implementation of the entire research activity according to the work package that is organized.

1:32:26

Then, next is monitoring, ladies and gentlemen. In this monitoring stage, it is not only for technical research progress, but also for the use of budget, international partnership involvement, and milestone achievement. Then there is the evaluation stage, which compares the results achieved with the target that has been set, so that if there is a deviation, corrective action can be immediately taken.

1:32:56

And the last is the continuation, which is the completion of research results, the arrangement of publications, and the development of networks and continuation for collaboration. It is important to note, Ladies and Gentlemen, that communication and coordination in this cycle center, without intensive communication, international collaboration, will be difficult to produce quality output.

1:33:23

For the work package structure, if we count until December, we only have 6 months. I will try to describe what it will be like in these 6 months.

1:33:42

This implementation will start with planning and research, then the development of the method or system, the experiment and validation, then the analysis of the results, dissemination and publication, and of course the end with the final report. So, each work package has

1:34:04

deliverable, milestones, and how the research can be observed objectively. Then, the work package-based approach is a project management practice that is recommended because it is easy to monitor and control the research. Then, regarding the coordination mechanism, in international research,

1:34:33

Communication is not allowed to wait, so when there is a problem, ideally it must be quickly solved, so communication is done well.

1:34:49

Ideally, there should be a routine technical meeting. Then there is a research development meeting, coordination with all our partners. I heard that there were several partners, not one. This coordination may need more attention. Documentation also, ladies and gentlemen,

1:35:17

coordination that needs to be done well. So using a digital platform together, such as Cloud Storage, GitHub, or other platforms, can be a solution for the coordination mechanism with partners. The point is that all collaborative activities need to be documented well, Ladies and Gentlemen, as evidence of the involvement of our international active partners.

1:35:45

Regarding monitoring and reporting, it will be done based on milestones, performance indicators, and the agreed-upon deliverables.

1:35:58

So the progress has been said to be documented in the supplementary report to facilitate the internal and external monitoring process. What needs to be understood is that monitoring is not intended to find fault with you, but to ensure that the research is still on the right track so that the exit target can be reached at the right time.

1:36:22

Regarding risk management, Mr. and Mrs. International Research has several challenges that have been mentioned earlier. There are also some problems, for example, related to the delay in experiments, time zone differences, personnel changes, facility limitations, or the delay in achieving its output. Therefore, Mr. and Mrs. Research, since the beginning, research needs to be organized on what risk mitigation plans are like.

1:36:52

With good risk management, this obstacle can be anticipated before it affects the entire research project.

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And lastly, ladies and gentlemen, there is a need for ethical and integrity commitments. So the last aspect is the commitment to the ethics and integrity of research. So international research must be based on the unity of research ethics, data transparency, protection of intellectual wealth, as well as the principles of equality and inclusion. And inter-religious trust is built through a profitable and professional management.

1:37:31

That is related to the management. Next slide please. Regarding the strategy, the achievement strategy, the outcome and the program, this research needs to be understood that the outcome of the research

1:38:02

There are two types of research, category A and category B. Regarding the adjustment, at least there are some strategies that are recommended to be able to complete this area.

1:38:17

So, the first strategy is to develop quality and relevant research. This is a good way to start with clear research questions, what do we want to do, what are the new things, then does this meet the needs of science or knowledge?

1:38:37

or meet the needs of the community. We must start from the beginning in this first strategy. Because since the beginning of our research, we and our international partners have the same understanding about the purpose of research, work space, and the results that we have achieved.

1:39:02

Thus, all the resources that we have can be focused on the same target, Madam.

1:39:13

The second strategy is to actively and equally develop collaboration. Again, we always convey the same idea from Prof. El Fahmi at the beginning. International partnership is not only to get the LOI, LOC, or MOU,

1:39:34

The hope is that foreign partners will contribute in the arrangement of methodology, implementation of experiments, data analysis, and the arrangement of joint publications. They are really involved in the research.

1:39:48

Collaboration like this is expected to increase the quality of research and increase the opportunity to receive articles in international journals that have a reputation according to the program's output. The more active the partnership is, the greater the added research value that is produced. Then the third strategy is to ensure that this research is carried out professionally.

1:40:17

Every research activity should be arranged in a package, complete and clear milestones. There is also a PIC, maybe you can add the PIC. Through this approach, we can monitor every step of research

1:40:39

then according to or not according to the schedule, it requires corrective action or not. Well, monitoring in a timely manner is very important, yes, Madam, so that the delay in an activity does not affect the overall outcome.

1:41:00

In other words, this good output is the result of management management, management of the good research.

1:41:10

For the fourth strategy, it is to maintain the quality of research results. The data obtained must be analyzed with partners, then validated and discussed scientifically. This approach not only increases the quality of research results, but also strengthens scientific argumentation in publication.

1:41:30

In addition, documentation of the entire research process must be done systematically until all evidence of the outcome is available when monitoring or evaluation is carried out. The fifth strategy, ladies and gentlemen, is to prepare the outcome from the beginning of the research. We often start writing when the research

1:42:00

it's done, yes, this is actually the best practice is to prepare the outline from the beginning, yes, ladies and gentlemen, so the experiment is clear what you want to do is written from the beginning, so if the research results are in the form of a form, ladies and gentlemen, because we are for category B,

1:42:20

The output is in the form of a model. Besides that, besides the form of a model, category B also comes out in the policy model, such as the instrument of the government or intellectual wealth. The completion process must be planned from the beginning. In this way, research is not only administratively completed, but it really produces quality and timely output.

1:42:47

The last strategy is to develop collaboration continuity. This research program does not stop when the research contract ends. The results of this research should be the beginning of long-term collaboration. For example, through continuous research, there is exchange of researchers, even there are students who join supervision, join laboratories, or develop together other innovations. And this continuity is

1:43:14

Our hope is to increase the reputation of the institution and also expand the network of Indonesian international research. All right, ladies and gentlemen, from the five main strategies that were mentioned earlier, our great hope is for the success of the program that we

1:43:41

So the success of this research program is not measured by the many activities that are done, but from the ability to change collaboration into a quality scientific output, impactful and sustainable. Because of that, the output plan, both the output of the journal and the output of the journal,

1:44:05

or model or policy, this is hoped since day one, this is managed professionally and become an international partner as a scientific partner that grows together.

1:44:21

Maybe that's all I can say, thank you for your attention, all of you. Bilhitoviq Walidaya, Wassalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. I return it back to Mrs. Yeti. Please, Mrs. Yeti. Thank you, Mrs. Pipit. Wassalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

1:44:41

I don't have to do it because there are questions and answers in the session. This time we also open the questions and answers, Prof. Derajat and Prof. L. Maybe we give the opportunity for three people to ask questions because the time has shown 12 o'clock. Please raise your hand if you want to ask, ladies and gentlemen. Once again, we invite you to ask questions. Please give us time.

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for the three questioners, I would like to invite Mr. Abdurrahman Bahtiar, please tell us where you are from, please open the mic. I am Abdurrahman from IPB University,

1:45:26

Who is the question for? Or for the third one, please. For the last material, regarding the clarification of the working package earlier, right? Yes, sir. Now, excuse me, Madam. Earlier, it was stated in the previous material, right? This proposal is proposed personally or individually, right? Well, while the material that you mentioned earlier is the division of the working package, right? WP. Well, that's

1:45:54

It seems to be contradictory with the maximum or minimum limit of the team in one proposal. For example, the Indonesian team itself wants to submit a proposal in one title. In one research team, there are a maximum of a few people. While the first material was that this research proposal was submitted by...

1:46:19

so that we can design RAP from the component of personal or honorary fees from the research team itself, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Abdul Rahman, I did say that the working package is one way to monitor every step we want to do. Regarding the number of

1:46:48

research, yes, this program is an individual research, so the recipient is in the name of the individual, but earlier, as mentioned, sir, that in the team, of course, we can't do anything, sir, make something yourself, like that, actually, we

1:47:07

we are helped by maybe based on the honorary that is mentioned there are researchers, then there are field assistants and also administrative teams but of course the researchers can also be our students, students of S3, so that's it sir, so

1:47:29

in terms of proposals, it is indeed a personal nature, but in the activities, of course, we can involve our friends, we can involve our assistants, only in the honorarium, it will be very limited. So maybe if you are actively involved,

1:47:54

We can still do activities as a team even though in the proposal we are individual. Maybe Mr. Abdul Rahman can hopefully explain what the difference is. Why was it individual but actually recommended as a working package? So the work package is only for monitoring.

1:48:15

then it is impossible for us to do research ourselves, there must be a team, that's what supports us in this research, that's possible, sir, thank you. Thank you, continue again, maybe the question is related to the honorarium, for example, for the help of the researcher, is it

1:48:38

Is there a specific criteria, for example, for students of S2 or S3 or also from ASN, S2 teachers, is that possible, ma'am?

1:48:46

If the researchers can, sir, students can, then outsiders can too. As far as I know, sir, as long as there is an examination later. So it is still being examined that this is part of our team. That's right, sir.

1:49:10

So there is no specific determination, right? No, sir. But two important things, the first is to be approved, so there is an approval from the higher education, that's enough. Then the nominal is according to the SBM, that's all, sir. Thank you, ma'am. It's very clear, ma'am. Thank you.

1:49:33

Thank you, Mr. Abdulrahman. Thank you, Ms. Dewit, for your explanation. Okay, let's go to the next question. Please, Ms. Nur, maybe you can open the microphone. I would like to ask, in line with the question earlier, for the research assistant, where is the SK? Oh, that's just internally, Ms. It's usually needed when... Oh, sorry, Ms. Yeti, I'll just answer this right away, so it's quick.

1:50:03

So actually, we usually need it when we do financial checks, especially financial checks. So from our proposal, we don't have

1:50:21

what is the name of the need for an SK and all kinds of things in our proposal we don't ask for it but what I said earlier that there must be an SKA is usually on financial responsibility so later if you are not but we will be checked usually we will be checked Well if there is a financial examination, it will usually be asked for it, that's it,

1:50:46

So it's not a proposal, right? Thank you. I beg your pardon, Miss Titin. Please don't repeat the question. If you can, we will give another question. We will give the opportunity to Miss Yunita, maybe. Please, Miss Yunita from the President University.

1:51:03

Okay, thank you, Ms. Yati. I actually really agree with what was said by Prof. Pipit. Work package is one thing that can anticipate if our target is not this. God willing, I will use it, Ms. That's it. My question is actually for Prof. Dredjet.

1:51:24

Prof. Dhradjat mentioned earlier, reminding that there is a possibility that we will have a problem when we implement it. Well, that can be shared, Prof. What is the solution? If it does not happen, if it does happen, because we still have to reach the outside. Thank you, Prof. That's all.

1:51:53

please, Prof, be responded to. Yes, so to anticipate so that there is no

1:52:02

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And the second, in my opinion, it must be really clear. This is often the least, yes. It's really clear at the beginning of the proposal. Sometimes, because the time is tight, we just go there, they send the documents, we say, "I want this study." Okay, that's it. Well, that's what becomes a problem. In my opinion, it's time to

1:52:57

what is the name of the discussion, so that it is clearer and deeper and also explains the context of Indonesia, how is it if the research is only in Indonesia or if in two regions, in two countries, it is explained, at least if

1:53:15

the announcement of the proposal is there, as soon as the announcement of the proposal is there, we must have a deeper conversation, then write down what the risks are and how to get out of the risk, so that there can be a problem.

1:53:36

As far as I know, there are no proposals that change the title. Most of it is in implementation and focus. That's it, ma'am. Thank you, Prof. Drajat. If you are in the middle of the country, please. Later, the meeting is if there is a MONEF. When there is a MONEF, which is asked from abroad, the industry asks, then it becomes

1:54:08

Thank you, Prof. Derajat. Because Prof. L is in the airport, it seems that he is idle. Maybe someone wants to add something. Yes, I just finished. Continue, Prof. Derajat. Thank you. Prof. Derajat, is the answer enough? We will move on to the next question. Okay, next Prof. Beth from Polytechnic, please.

1:54:39

Hello, Prof. Beth. Can you please open the mic and the camera? Thank you. I have a question but it has been answered.

1:54:53

But it's a bit tricky too. Say for example, individual. I'm from Polytechnic, Netrimanado, right? So the trick is this, this is indeed an individual. Then there is an explanation that this cannot be done alone. My question is, when we carry out this activity, will we be wronged later? For example, I have already got a partner from the Republic of Korea,

1:55:22

because I am behind tourism, so I have already got that. Later when I visit, in our concept of notes, we will compare two destinations, Indonesia, especially the destination of super-priority tourism in Indonesia,

1:55:45

Korea. Well, this may happen, not only me who is physically, but my team members, not many because I also pay attention to the money for category A, it's only 150, not much. Well, will we not be neglected later? That's the first one, the second one, because this is an international collaboration,

1:56:07

why we don't just drag everything into English. We have to double work. Because we only make notes for our partners abroad, it's already in English. But now I'm in front of the laptop to make a proposal to upload to our system here in Indonesia. That's in Indonesian. How do you think it's a good way?

1:56:36

because this is international, can we just make it all in Bahasa Indonesia? Thank you. Okay, thank you Prof. Ben. Please respond, maybe Prof. Derajat or Prof. Fahmi. Yes, I was the one who said it. Thank you, Prof. Ben.

1:56:58

The first one is the individual, the purpose is that the proposal is not presented by the institution, the social work is presented by the faculty, not the university, but the mother individually presents it. That doesn't mean that only mothers can do mobility, yes, the important thing is that it is according to the conditions, the location, how many research centers can go there, etc.

1:57:27

That's the first answer. The second one is in English. We have a rule that we can't speak English. Isn't that right, Miss Dini? It's okay, Miss. It's in Indonesian. This is my conclusion, Miss. When you want to be evaluated, there's no one who can understand it. Sorry, I... Proposal must be in Indonesian when we... Ah, Indonesian.

1:57:52

It's easy to be interrupted, it's not a problem, I think. But communication with outsiders is in English, of course. Yes, that's right, Mr. St. St.

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1:58:25

Prof. Beth and all of you explained what Prof. El Fahmi said earlier that the initiative is individual but we still have a team. Earlier, Prof. Beth mentioned that if we want to go there with our team, how?

1:58:43

Profbet, but of course we have a limitation on the amount of funding, Profbet, so only 40% of the proceeds, so if you really want to bring our team, our students or our assistant researchers, it is recommended, sir, but of course again, it

1:59:05

please be written in the method so it shows that we will bring our team that much for the process of what was said by Prof. Bet, maybe that's an addition, Ms. Yeti, thank you Thank you Prof. Betit, thank you, Mr. Dajat, enough

1:59:24

Okay, so there are still two questions. We are up to 12:30, there are two questions. Please, who is the Zoom user? After that, Mrs. Raff Rini. Okay, Mrs. Raff Rini, please.

1:59:48

Okay, Assalamualaikum Wr. Wb. I am Nurul, a professor from the University of Islam Sultan Agung. I want to ask, Mrs. earlier you were talking about Prof. L, it's very good. I hope this will continue to develop. And Alhamdulillah, I have joined the publication for the third time with a professor at UGM University of Malaysia and all of KISATU. And we continue to do that. It's a two-way road, not only as a consultant. My question directly relates to

2:00:16

in the guide document, the proposal supports the national development agenda, solving national strategic problems, while so far we have joined the research because for the Scopus,

2:00:35

The direction of our global data is multi-country data, emerging countries, because Indonesia is emerging, and we, emerging countries, have the same characteristics to solve problems. So, regarding the proposal, if the orientation is RKI to Output, I am the international journal,

2:00:59

Scopus K1, right? So, can I then, can I not have the proposal directly directed to those who are about two levels to Scopus, Madam? Or is it really specific to solve the development problem in Indonesia, right? Because if

2:01:15

global, because Indonesia is part of the emerging countries that have the same criteria as how to find solutions. My orientation is about sustainability. That's the first. Second, technical. So, yesterday I prepared a statement that I didn't get any kind of funding.

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say we are LPPM, but why is the hand mark only a researcher, I mean, it should be if we use the word LPPM, there must be a head of the LPPM who states that this is indeed not receiving technical type funding, yes, finally, it was like Prokontra, I had

2:02:06

heard that it was close to Malaysia, Singapore, and indeed, my partner entered the University of CS World, so it can be mutual, even though there was a 40% limitation, because collaboration is very important. My experience in the world class professor, getting the funding, they came to Indonesia, we came there, also related to research, and from the basics it was very

2:02:34

the research model and so on, until many things can be used in collaboration with this research. One budget is not enough, but the effect can be very good for our institutions, our benefits, including for Indonesia in general. Is that right, ma'am? Is it okay? Because the first one just said that only Indonesian researchers who are abroad cannot go abroad to Indonesia, but on the other hand, it said that if only Malaysia and Singapore,

2:03:03

can be eco, can also be exported to Indonesia, or can it or not? Thank you. Assalamualaikum. Okay, thank you. Please respond, Madam. May I ask a little bit about the last one? Oh, sorry. The funding research, Madam, is only for our research, Madam. If there is indeed research from Mitra to Indonesia, please, you can make the funding source from their income, not funding.

2:03:35

That's for our own researchers abroad. If it's inside, please bring them to Indonesia, but using their own resources. We need their in-kind, if they have an in-kind or in-cash, please. So if it's from in-cash or in-kind, please.

2:03:58

Very well, there is no limitation, but the funding is not from us. Prof, I'm sorry, I wanted to cut it earlier.

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Oh, can I go first, Mr. Gadjad? The first question is interesting, Bu. It means that if the national problem is not meaningful, then, yes, then, the research that the sampling is one, for example, in Indonesia there is a sampling, then in other countries there is no sampling either. That's sales, but it's better, we get a comparison that the benefit is in protection,

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national use. Well, this is one of the very good ones. The one that is not good, I mean the one that is less

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That is, we study, for example, in Germany, we study the resources there, for there, like that. So we do our research, of course, what is called one of the key factors for the partnership, we also discuss it over and over again, it's equal.

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Even though the funding is from there, but it cannot be financed by foreign funds. If possible, this fund will also be co-funded, as Mr. Dini said, co-funding, they also provide a research fund for the same project, for the collaboration, that's the best.

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But I think this collaboration is not related to us not paying for the consultant from abroad. So we work with the partnership of Recep, we say, don't be inferior, don't be like, "We'll get the funds later, then come to the United States, just find us, we don't want to." We're the same Recep. We make their ink, we go there, and the lab is used and we don't pay.

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I think that's the first thing. I think that's the first thing. I think that's the first thing. I think that's the first thing. I think that's the first thing.

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The letter is in accordance with the law. So if for example in our individual system, but it's pop-up, I don't think it's really right. Unless there is a police officer there, the police will investigate. That's all I can say.

2:06:31

Hi, please, Prof. Dredjad, if you don't want to add it, maybe, yes, in my opinion, the so-called visa 1.2 journal is an impact, yes, from our vision activities, that's it, if you have seen that your vision is

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useful for the community and also can be used for one or two, that's okay. But if you see, for example, I am only useful for the community, but to get the journal is not difficult, for example, it's heavy, that's what needs to be elaborated again.

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Because this is the outside that is being chased for the AIS schema, indeed the journal article is automatically, if you do research, you have the opportunity to get the implications of the benefits of development for the nation, it must be there. That's it, ma'am. Thank you, Prof. Drajat. Maybe,

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Maybe there is still one more question, we are at the end of time, please, Mrs. Rafnani, just briefly, please. Thank you, Mrs. Yeti and Mrs. Bapak, all of you. I actually asked in the chat column, I just want to make sure again, please explain. So I am one of the team

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research collaboration from one of the universities abroad. So, he cooperated with several universities in Indonesia to see some

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What is the name of the scheme? Well, actually I am responsible for certain schemes and this is indeed funding from the university. Now what I want to ask, is my part of the scheme that may

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part of it, you can get funding from the RKI as well. Or it's not allowed at all. Because this is the continuation of the research that was submitted by the head chief of the research team, it's been three years. And for Indonesia,

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The scheme is 2 years, please clarify so that I don't get double funding. And the funding is from there, from the University of UIT in Kelantan. If this is a funding that some of the CEMDICT is allowed. That's all my question, so that there is no conflict of integrity in the project that we try to improve.

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Thank you for your response, Madam. Yes, maybe I'll try to answer first.

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Bu Raffni, this is actually a project that has been in progress, it means that the project has been in progress, then it wants to be initiated also using RKI. Well, there it provides funding, which means that we can actually see this as part of their contribution to this study. Please correct me too, Prof. El Fahmi, Prof. Rajat. Well, if you can do

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clear differences, especially regarding financial management and financing. This is actually the most important thing, Mrs. Financial management and financing. So what is the funding there for? What is the use of this research?

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Well, you can do it well, it doesn't seem to be a problem, it's actually a term that happens It is very visible that our partner also issued an incest for our funding activities But once again, please clarify what part of the funds they will fund, what part will you use, using the RKI funds, what is it?

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From my point of view, maybe Ms. Dini has something to add. I agree with that, Ms. Budit. I agree that it even shows that Indonesia has a contribution. Indonesia is not just following and following, but the important thing is that.

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both from the outside of the journal, yes, or in the division of its function, it's clear that this is indeed a personal research, so it's not just about taking the data in turn, writing it in turn, it's clear, it's

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I would like to add a little more. This is good. So this is what we call co-funding. The definition is not double funding. Double funding is like this. With the research that you are doing now, with funding from abroad, for example, the weight is four. Then the funds are 200 million. There is already an estimate.

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Yes.

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But if you can, the top-up treatment, the receipt too, it means that the sampling is bigger, right? Then the part receipt is adjusted, it's good.

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Yes, it's the same as what Mr. Gadad said earlier, we are not inferior, we are equal. But the key is not to double funding. This is good, this is the ethics of research, I have also met, we even took the research again,

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one proposal is proposed, one scheme is proposed, then another scheme is proposed, right? The reviewer doesn't know if it's checked, right? This is a good ethical statement. So we have to make sure, yes, make sure that we present this research that has been in the first round of the robot, the quality has increased, and the output too. So with the same output, if you see 2170, the original is claimed

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maybe last Bu Dini, is there anything you want to say or add? everything is clear, double funding related to the funding item and it was not doubled claim for the output, thank you, Mrs. Bapak

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Okay, then, ladies and gentlemen, once again we convey for the material and link to the Zoom recording, we have shared in the chat column, it does not feel like we are at the end of the socialization activities of the International Friendship Research Program, we say our biggest thanks to Mr. Yosun Ityoso, Director of Hilirization and Friendship, for his support for this event, Mrs. Dini and the entire team of the partnership, the amazing experts,

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and also the development team of the HILDE RESEARCH platform that has helped us very much, as well as all of the participants from various high schools in Indonesia who have followed this activity with full enthusiasm. Hopefully, the event today will provide a more comprehensive understanding and encourage more innovative research collaborations with quality that will impact the development of knowledge,

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