Harrisburg City Council Work Session 4-01-2025

experiencing some technical difficulties

with our uh microphones, but it seems

like they are now working. So, the time

is 5:47 p.m. I would like to call our

work session to order.

Mr. Parker, could you please call the

role?

Miss Daniels,

Miss Davis, present.

Miss Green, present. Mr. Jones, here.

Miss RWS, present. Mr. Rodriguez,

present. Miss Bowers, present. Thank

you.

Uh we have a number of items under

committee business this evening. I will

begin with the administration committee.

We have one resolution for discussion.

Resolution 18 of

2025. Mr. Parker, could you please read

it into the record? Resolution 18 of

2025, a resolution appointing Ms.

Cheyenne Johnson to serve on the

Environmental Advisory Council. Thank

you.

Miss Johnson, if you wouldn't mind

joining

us. Okay, good evening. Thank you for

joining us this evening. if you wouldn't

mind taking a few minutes to introduce

yourself, please. Yes, thank you. Um,

thank you for having me. Um, and thank

you for the invitation. My name is

Cheyenne Johnson. I'm a local native to

Harrisburg, um, Pennsylvania. Um, and I

went to school in North Carolina, um,

the University of North Carolina at

Charlotte. Um, and currently I am a

commercial appraisal traininee, uh, for

written house appraisals.

Thank you. Um, what interests you in

serving as a member of the environmental

advisory council? Um, well, just a after

looking through the city website and

looking at how I can be able to

contribute my current knowledge within

the commercial and residential real

estate realm. I figured that um be being

able to give back to the city that I'm

from, this position would be able to

offer me the leverage with, you know,

getting to know everyone um in city

council and really understanding how um

my efforts can be can contribute to

Parisburg city itself and how I can

continue to develop and provide

different ways of doing things as far as

how it increases our environment.

Thank you. So, just for everyone's

reference, I know we're all familiar

with the Environmental Advisory Council,

but just a refresh, uh, pursuant to

ordinance number six of 2018, the

Environmental Advisory Council or EAC

was reorganized in order to better carry

out the mission of providing information

and a forum for discussing environmental

issues impacting the city of

Harrisburg. Uh, pursuant to section

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2-509.2 of the codified ordinances of

the city of Harrisburg, the EAC shall be

comprised of seven volunteer members, of

which three are appointed by the mayor

and four are appointed by city council.

EAC members must be residents of the

city of Harrisburg. EAC members are

appointed to serve a term of three years

unless otherwise removed.

Your appointment uh shall be for a term

commencing on April 8th,

2025 and expire expiring on April 7th,

2028. Just wanted to review um that

information for everyone's

reference. Um I don't have any other

immediate questions. I'm going to open

the floor to my colleagues who may have

some additional questions for you. I'd

like to begin with our public works

committee chair, uh, Councilman

Rodriguez. Do you have any questions?

Thank you, Madam President. Thank you,

Miss Johnson, for joining us and your

willingness to serve in this capacity.

Um, besides your knowledge in what you

do currently, what do you um what's your

passion for environmental studies or

environment just in general knowing what

you know about our city?

Um, I will definitely

say as far as my capacity of what I know

and what I'm willing to learn would just

be me um conducting several different

cleanups within the city with the

Harrisburg Young Professionals and also

doing it um just as a subset in the

neighborhood that I grew up in, which is

uptown Harrisburg and then currently um

where I also have family members that

live off of Berry Hill Street. So

recently, what last year, uh, where

Bailey Hill Street was completely

destroyed by numerous trees in the

neighborhood, um, I took it upon myself

to be able to volunteer without any type

of funds to be able to help my community

in that capacity. And I just foresee

myself in this position to be able to do

that, but at a int more intense level.

Um, I wouldn't say that I have all of

the knowledge, right, to be able to say

that I know how to do this or that, but

I will say that I have the just the

determination, the the bear with, you

know, the bandwidth to be able to do it

and then just the passion behind being

from this community and wanting to

impact it in just a more intensed way in

a progressive way, honestly. Well, we

thank you and um I look forward to

working with you further in this

capacity. The first hotspot Saturday

cleanup will be the 19th of this month.

So, if you're available, please come

out. Love to see you a part of that

initiative. Yeah, for sure. Thank you.

Thank you. Absolutely.

Thank

you, Councilman Jones. Any questions?

Uh excuse me. Thank you, uh President

Bowers. Um no, not not not really have a

question. I'll just uh give you my

sentiments. Um, again, as Councilman uh

Rodriguez said, um, thank you for your

willingness to serve. He pretty much

answered my question and I like the the

transparency and I'm not saying that you

know all the things, but I love the

ambition on the willingness to learn,

the willingness to serve, but most

importantly the passion. So, that's all

I have. So, thank for you um even

stepping up to the plate for this.

Thanks. Thank you. Thank you,

Councilwoman Ross. Any questions? Thank

you, President Bowers. Hello, Miss

Johnson. Thank you for being here. Um, I

don't have any questions. I'm just want

to say thank you for being willing to

um, serve on this um, board and

volunteer your time and being open to

learn um, new things and um, just being

willing to get out in your community and

be a part of it. So, thank you and I

look forward to working with you. Thank

you. Me, too. Thank you, Vice President

Green. Any questions? Thank you very

much. Um, thank you for being here

tonight. I don't have any questions for

you. Um, I'm eager to hear the passion

in your voice and I look forward to

working with you. So, thank you. Thank

you, Councilwoman Davis. Any questions?

No questions. Welcome and thank you for

your service and your willingness and

passion to serve.

Thank you, Councilwoman Daniels. Any

questions?

Yeah,

just any potential conflicts of interest

between this appointment and you

currently have

I'm sorry. Can you repeat that question

for me, please?

Yes.

No,

ma'am.

Councilwoman Daniels,

I I sorry, I didn't hear any. She said

she No, she did not have any conflicts.

Okay, that doesn't matter any question.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thanks for joining us this

evening. Um, we do have one caveat uh

before we vote on this resolution. There

is a statement of financial interest

that is needed uh on file for 10 days

prior to any action that can be taken by

this body. Um, so we will follow up with

you again regarding the form and once

it's completed our 10day clock will

begin. So I currently have the physical

form with me filled out and then I also

did uh return that document to Mr.

Michael here. Um so you are in receipt

of that. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you very much.

So resolution 18 of 2025 will remain in

committee um once the 10day uh time

frame has

exhausted. That concludes the business

of the administration committee. Uh next

we have the budget and finance

committee. I will defer to our budget

and finance committee chair vice

president Green.

Thank you President Bowers. Uh, the

budget and finance committee will be

discussing resolution 19 of 2025. Mr.

Parker, could you read into the record

for me,

please? Resolution 19 of 2025, a

resolution authorizing the city of

Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a

professional services agreement with

Conrad Seagull Incorporated to continue

to provide actuarial services consisting

of other postemployment benefits.

valuations as required by the government

accounting standards and board statement

number

75. Thank you very much. Uh it looks

like we have the finance department here

to give us a presentation um along with

some handouts. So whenever you guys are

ready if you could introduce yourselves

and give us an overview.

Bob, county, finance director, and I'm

kind of under the weather, so I'm gonna

let Brian County manager do most of the

talking for us tonight.

Okay. Thank you, Bob. I'll do my best.

Uh, good evening, uh, budget finance

committee. Thank you, uh, Vice President

Green, city council members. Um, as Vice

President Green mentioned, uh, the

handout that, uh, Mr. Parker can

distribute it. It reflects

um one of the Excel file schedules that

that Cedric's helping me out with this

evening. There it is. Thank you. And

what

um the the the firm that has

historically provided the the the

related service here services is Conrad

Seagull and the the actuary. Uh and this

is the city's uh other post-employment

health care benefits certain benefits uh

for city retirees and we don't determine

these numbers. It's it obviously it's

determined through the services provided

by Conrad Seagull because it's actuar

actuarially based uh and there's a lot

of calculation that that that goes into

it and it relates to the uh ma

predominantly the medical uh benefits

that uh are available for retirees and

there's three main groups including

police, fire and the non-uniform group

and the non-uniform group also has a a

further breakdown of management and

union

employees. So the the first part of this

schedule reflects the uh the top part. I

thought it would be good to just try to

give you a an overview because this

liability is not it's a huge liability

for for one thing, but it's not, of

course, one that the city has to pay,

you know, on any one payment or or check

run. It's just an ongoing liability

that's that's that's calculated that

needs to be included in the city's

annual financial statements. U the

report that Conrad Seagull provides

ranges between 20 and 25 pages and it it

lists all the groups and it has all the

the the trigger effects of when people

were hired and and when they retired and

that that determines what the eligible

benefits uh are are to be.

um some perspective. Uh the the OPED

liabilities laid out there and they're

all based on and this is in the actu

actuaries world they do the valuation as

of January 1st uh and they do it every

other year. So that's why you're seeing

uh even even actuary valuation dates

that begin for example January 1 of

182022. What's being brought before you

tonight is going to be the evaluation

they are prepared to prepare. It'll be

dated 1 one of

2024. What's interesting on the

liability is you can see back uh at the

end of 18 it was uh around 130 to 136

million. And when we ca when we come

down into the middle the middle section

there the the tremendous increase in the

liability of 157 million 177 million uh

there's a a tiein of course related to

the health uh the health pandemic that

occurred and just medical expenditures

that have have increased in cost and I

mean as you know throughout the year on

the budget side this is not a budget

item but but it there is budget we pay

the city pays its health care claims as

we go throughout the year and we have

those ex significant expenditures and

and and some of the the the claims can

be quite extraordinary at

times. So the liability at the end of

2023 has uh you know I hesitate to say

calmed down but it's it's it's back to

where it was uh in in in the early

liability balance dates on this

schedule. it's not as you not as nearly

as as

extraordinary. The middle section of

this schedule is participants data and I

I just carved out again this is taken

from the the the valuation report it to

see total participants and and of those

total participants the the people that

are retired. Um so um it's again uh

you're looking at the total of over 700

individuals and that would include not

just city employees but eligible spouses

and also eligible

dependents. So the difference would be

um there's total there and retired. The

difference would be the active uh city

city participants, those currently

employed by by the city.

And uh just for u a sense of if you if

you flatline the the most recent

liability balance of 138 million and if

you divide that over $748 participants,

it that roughs out to about

$185,000 per participant as an estimated

projection. Now that's not I I don't I

wouldn't want to bank on that because

I'm just totally averaging that. But

that at least gives us a sense of how we

can translate such a large uh liability

balance. So that's the participant data

and again it's reflective as of the

valuation date which is a date that

starts the beginning of each of those

every other year

periods. Uh lastly at the bottom is

Conrad Seagull's fee and I thought it

would be good for you. You might have

thought what what we've paid them in the

past and this this illustrates that. Um

what they do when they do the valuation

uh they will be uh doing at the start of

the year and they project forward what

they anticipate will happen. So for the

the 11

124 2024 valuation coming up uh you know

for the the year that just ended uh

that's the bulk of their their time.

they they craft the report and that's

the $14,000 portion of the current

proposed fee. Then ne um this time about

next year they'll come back and they'll

just simply update that same document.

And of course it's not as much

significant time. So that's why that fee

is so much lower for the second half of

uh the contracted period.

Um, so that again that's that was my

attempt to try to summarize this the

best I could. Uh, and I can stop right

there if you have any questions or

comments.

Thank you very much. Um, it's it's

pretty straightforward to me. Uh, I

don't really have any questions. I'll

open up to my colleagues. I'll start to

my far right with uh, Councilwoman

Daniels. Any questions or comments?

No questions. Thank you. Thank you,

Councilwoman Davis. No questions. Thank

you, President Bowers. I don't have any

questions. Thank you. Thank you,

Councilwoman Ross. Uh, thank you. I

don't have any questions.

Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez. Thank

you. No questions for me. Thank you. And

Councilman Jones, any questions? No

questions.

Well, looks like we don't have any

questions regarding this. Thank you for

the presentation and kind of giving us

the the overall of of how the the

process works and and what it's um

showing us. So, we appreciate that. Um

and thank you for being here tonight.

That's it. Very good. Thank you. Thank

you. I will um recommend this be moved

to our next legislative agenda. Thank

you.

Thank you. Our final committee business

this evening lies with the public safety

committee. I will defer to our public

safety committee chair, Councilman

Jones. Thank you, President Bowers. Is

anyone here from

fire?

No. I didn't

see I mean, what did he say? Let me

turn.

How do we This is just a transfer of a

vehicle from a paid fire company to a

volunteer. Volunteer fire companies are

qualified where we don't have to put it

out for bid for public property as a

potential recipient. Uh it's a very old

vehicle. I think the number is like

$2,000, something like that. Yeah. Uh I

was just wondering with no one here, you

know, to to represent it. So I just

wonder how we proceeded with that.

if they can decide if that what I just

said is good enough or not. Or you could

then ask them to come back. No, on

or you could ask them to come back and

just suspend the rules on Tuesday next

time you meet and have them because they

missed tonight to do it that way. Okay.

Yeah, we'll do that. Right. So just but

it's pretty fun this one. So yeah. Yeah.

I mean

apparently they need the truck.

So, so, you know, we'll put

resolution 17 into uh committee. Well, I

think if you refer it for a vote, you

can always withdraw it if they don't

come in for the next meeting. So, you

get to the next meeting, you suspend the

rules, right? And then they talk to

them. So, that's not for committee,

that's for a vote. Okay. Yeah. So, I

just asked to move it resolution 17 to

uh the legislation Yep.

session. All right.

President.

Oh, still me. It's still you. It's still

you. One more. One more. One more. Uh,

so we have

um resolution 20. Mr. Parker, can you

please read that into the record? Yes. A

resolution authorizing and approving the

submission of a petition to the

Pennsylvania Liquor Liquor Control Board

for an exemption of a specific downtown

area of the city of Harrisburg from the

board's regulations regarding amplified

music being heard off the licensed

premises in favor of enforcing the

city's adopted new noise control and

abatement ordinance.

All right. Then we have you guys can go

ahead and introduce yourself and I mean

yeah go ahead

Commissioner Thomas Carter and my

captain Captain Terry.

Okay. So um you want to explain a little

bit about what you have there resolution

20 just give us a quick overview of it.

Sure. Thank you. Can everybody hear me?

All right. Um, like Mr. Parker said,

resolution 20 of 2025 is a resolution

authorizing and approving submission of

a petition to the Pennsylvania Liquor

Control Board for the exemption of

specific downtown area of the city of

Harrisburg from LCB regulations

regarding amplified music coming from

license pre premises in favor of

enforcing the city's adopted noise

control ordinance, which is city

ordinance

3-343. Um, I have a little bit of

history here. I had a brief conversation

with Councilman Jones there. Apparently,

I was I read this thing wrong that I

have, but uh I had it as resolution

20-2025 was moved by Councilman Jones

and seconded by Councilman Rodriguez on

March 24th at the last legislative

session. It was moved to this evening's

session for the purpose of discussion. I

just had the the piece of paper that I

was forwarded. So, I'm not really sure

what happened with that, but either way,

I'm prepared to move on. Let's go. Let's

go. Uh, city orders, a little bit of a

history about it. City ordinance 3-343

was first adopted by city council on

November 9th of 1999 by city ordinance

number 42 of 1999.

It was amended in its entirety on June

5th of 2007 by ordinance number four of

2007 and sub subsequent amendments were

noted uh were applicable. Last version

was moved by council councilwoman Green

rather and seconded by Councilman Matson

in 2019. It was passed by city council

on December December 17th of 2019. That

version expired here this this past

January on the

1st. This version the as presented has

no change in verbiage or boundary at

this time.

Excuse me. Can you move the microphone

closer to you?

Yes, ma'am. Thank you. All right. Uh

like I said there a little bit earlier,

this current version has no change in

verbiage or boundary at this time. I

could just go over the boundaries. Uh if

you can imagine the western boundary is

is front street from the railroad bridge

north to Forester Street. The east

boundary is North 7th Street from

Forester south to State and then uh

south on Fifth Street to Market Street.

It's right around the bridge there where

it kind of curves around. Uh the

northern boundary is Forester Street. Uh

and the south boundary is the railroad

tracks like where where the trucks are

always getting stuck down in there and

eastbound. Um I have a little bit about

usage um since 2007 of the city

ordinance. Now this was not uh for bars

specifically, but this also covers loud

noise due to construction and things

like that where it's not like an

emergency. It's outside of the bounds.

Um and also uh people have playing loud

music in vehicles. So we had three

different uh RMS systems where we we

keep track of these numbers over the

years. So between January of 2007 and

October of

2015 about a 8year period, 455 citations

were issued citywide for violations of

the ordinance. That's not just bars and

that's the entire city. Can you say that

number again for me? 455

citations. citations this from the

vehicles or that's everything everything

houses vehicles uh and I'm sure there's

a couple of bars in there the system

that I was looking at it's kind of

antiquated we don't use it anymore and I

wasn't going to go through

455 you know citations just so that's

the number right uh and then between uh

November 15th I'm I'm sorry November of

2015 and October of 2024 there were 109

citations issued for violations of the

city ordinance. Four of those were in

the downtown area alone, whether it's

coming from vehicles. Um I I know of

very few bars that have actually been

cited with this because you need like

five different occasions, you know,

until you start citing people with it.

But that that's all we have at this

point. Okay. You got anything to add,

Commissioner?

So, um, this may be a question for

legal, um, you know, from from the

original ordinance that Captain Wheeling

just referred to, um, which was, uh,

created in 2009.

We're not quite there yet. That's

[Laughter]

1999. I apologize. Goodness gracious. We

woo. If we still here that long, boy, I

tell you. Uh 1999 this uh originated. Um

there the ordinance changed. I mean,

well, the language hasn't changed, but

some for some reason the map has. Can

you tell me why the map has changed?

Sure. The map has actually changed at

least three times over the years,

council. And part of this is because

where establishments change. So part of

what we have to do when you authorize

this is we go to LCB with an with a

petition and it lists every everyone

with a liquor license within the

boundary. Um at one point this council

voted to move the lines all the way up

to Harris Street where the uh American

Legion was. Um at one point they had the

Mill Works when they first opened and

HMAC when they first opened. um they had

some what I'll call were perceived as

nuisance bars where council purposely

moved the line to the other side of the

street. So the nuisance bar wasn't

protected under the under this

ordinance. Um I can't remember frankly

why it moved back to the old boundaries

other than we were when we finally got

there we were heading to CO you know I

just don't know what the thinking was at

the time. I have no recollection of

that. Um and I don't know whether that

was a police request a mayoral request.

I I don't know. Um Okay. So, uh you know

that there's a request from Third Street

uh to add them to it. The the

requirement for to satisfy LCB is that

the boundary has to be it's got to close

on the map. It can't like have little

offshoots. Okay. So, so it's got to be

contiguous. So, I'm looking at um

resolution 85 of 2017, which we which

seems to be the most recent map. The

language is still the same. The map is

all the way over to Harris Street as you

just mentioned. Yeah, that was voted on

motion by motion by this council. That

was changed from the original to that.

Yeah. Okay. So, that's that's the point

that I'm making. And so, um you know, I

think with those businesses that you

just mentioned, um Mill Works, um you

now you have the district, you also have

uh HMAC, and and if we're in the

business of trying to revitalize our

city, and I think those areas still play

an intricate part in our in our city. um

you know economically developing and

having things for people to do. So um

you know I would be making a

recommendation that we go back to

resolution 85 of 2017. So so some of

those streets have no establishment

anymore. So if if you would not mind if

you would like the amendment what we

will do is get the list of lences for a

bigger territory so the council can see

who's there and then you know and then

you have options. The one thing to

remember, it's got to close. The line's

got to close, right? But like right now,

there is nothing up on Harris Street

anymore. That that that was right. That

was old old um post 733. Yes. Where

where I think Councilwoman Reed was

president. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

You do have the the the Latino bar right

there. Right. So it's But I think it

didn't go that far that time. Right.

That I think it I missed it. Anastasia.

Yes, it's still there. Right on. Right.

So So we could get a we could get an LCB

thing for everything. I'd say this side

of the railroad tracks in the city of

Harrisburg boundaries and you can d can

decide how far you want the boundary to

go. Okay. So now what do we have to do

for that to wait? We bring it back to

another committee meeting. So and this

is a process because after council votes

it then has to be petitioned and then it

waits for LCB to set up a hearing. The

hearing actually happens in this

chamber. Um you know it's publicly

advertised. Okay. So this resolution

will remain in committee as well. Yeah.

This would I think remain in committee

for this request. We will we will get

that. Um our liaison for a lot of the

liquor licensing is actually Mike Hughes

in the tax office. Okay. And there's a

liazison with the police bureau. So we

will get the data and it's just it's

really just a data. I think that's fair.

So I think that's fair. Thank you. Sure.

And we'll have it in time for your next

um legislative s next session. We'll

have So yeah, leave this in committee

then. Right. Yeah. I ask that the

resolution 20 of 2025 remain in uh

public safety committee.

Can I just ask one question about it?

Um, with the public hearing, what you're

saying is that community members will be

able to come in and just speak about the

changing of the map or any concerns they

have. In in the past, sometimes this map

has both at the council level, more at

the council level and the and elsewhere

have resulted in actually a number of

people showing up to discuss it. Um, and

so, so, so like if you move it to a

place and there's a a location that

they've been complaining about, you most

likely get those neighbors coming in

saying, "I want you to sight them. I

don't want you to." Right. Right. Um,

but, uh, this our police can still cite

them for noise. Um, but right now, it's

basically the state troopers who have

authority over the liquor license.

Absolutely. So, that this lets our guys

go in there for what they need to do.

But I but I get it too because you're

right and I and I really didn't consider

that about um you know we're redesigning

the city anyway and some of these

establishments aren't there but like uh

the Legion but you still do have um

Anastasia you still have Yeah. I think

there's something new next to the

Vietnamese

restaurant 1500. They they got rooftop

so we want to make sure that we're we're

covering all that area. We'll get you

the list. All right. Any other

questions? Council members. Yeah, I

think Were you saying is there a new

establishment next to what was B&

Garden? Yeah, there's a new one just

opened. Yeah. Yeah, there's a new bar.

Yeah, 30. Yeah, the sports bar. So, I

think we got to in there's so many

things to include and you're like the

map has to close. I'm like just circle

the whole city. I don't like how this

look. There's so many new places. Yeah,

I know. I know. I know. No, no. But it's

just so so many new places opening. It's

like Yeah. I I suggest you don't want

Cameron Street. I would just No. No.

There used to be one on there. Okay.

There's probably one establishment, the

new establishment down there. Yeah.

There's a lounge down there on Cameron.

Yeah. There's a lounge. I've lost track.

Savannah is down there. What is it

called? My question before you go, Pres,

I mean, Vice President Green, my

question would be again, as again, you

know, we have a lot of open spaces and

things up along Sixth Street and a lot

of people, you know, we I'm I'm looking

to hope that there are new businesses

that will be coming into these areas.

So, um I guess we only can just close it

where we see fit right now and then is

there a way that we need to adjust and

we have do we have to wait until this

one expires and then come back and

revisit it again?

The answer is I don't know that without

looking at the regulation. So, so the

LCB regs have been really modified a lot

during COVID because it made it a little

easier for for outdoor transfers for

off-site beverages. Um, so I would have

to see if they changed that part of the

regulation, but as long as they in the

if you have a big footprint, as long as

they're in that footprint, they're

covered. Okay. Right. That's it. Doesn't

they don't have to be on the list now.

Right. Right. Right. To be covered.

Gotcha. So, Vice President Green. Yes.

Um, just for clarification, so the map

that we're using right now is from

December 17, 2019. That's the current

map, right? And it was approved by LCB

September 2020. Okay. And the map that

you're referring to is the one from

November 14th, 2017. Correct.

Absolutely. All right. So, the current

map that we're using is the same map

that's being proposed in this new

resolution. Correct. Yes. All right. So

just making for sure that for the public

everyone understands what where we're at

now and what we're looking to do

possibly. I I will note in the course of

the 2017 hearing because we only asked

for two years and it was a very unusual

map from their point of view that they

actually asked us the next time to apply

for longer so they didn't have to keep

redoing the hearings. Got it.

Got anything? Thank you. Um just one

question. Thank you for

here. You mentioned five occurrences.

Five occurrences before someone is

cited. Is that the bars only or are you

talking about just that? That's written

in the language of the uh of the

ordinance. Mhm.

So, houses, bars, anyone. That's

No, that the way that I interpreted this

was was that's for the establishments.

Oh, for establishments, right? Okay.

That was my question. At least that's

the way I interpreted it. For for for

you talking about for this one? Yes. For

the ordinance. Okay.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, gentlemen.

So, they they'll come back down once

this is

they I think you just talk about the

practicalities of of the boundary for

the police purposes. All right. Thank

you, gentlemen. Welcome, President Bar.

Thank you. We will now move forward with

our meeting agenda. The next item is

public comment. Just a few housekeeping

notes before we begin. Please state your

name and your address for the meeting

record. If you don't feel comfortable

sharing your address, please share the

vicinity in which you live within the

city. You will have four minutes to

share your comments. Mr. Parker will

serve as our timekeeper. I will begin to

my right. Is there anyone that would

like to offer public

comment? Seeing and hearing no one,

anyone in the middle section?

Seeing and hearing no one. Anyone to my

left. Good evening. My name is Evelyn

Hunt and I live on State Street.

Yesterday I came down to the city and I

realized we don't have enough parking

enforcement people. However, when they

are out doing parking

enforcement, I gave the mayor four cars

in my neighborhood that have been

getting tickets repeatedly that don't

have current registrations on their cars

or inspections on their cars. And what

I'd like for the people who do do

parking enforcement to make a note and

give I think his Sergeant

Wells o officer Wells the information so

these cars don't remain on the street

week after week getting tickets. Two of

the cars that I uh noted had one had a

inspection in the year 2022, one had one

in

2023. One was a wrecked car and one had

a flat tire. The other car was parked

too close to the intersection of 19th

and state where people have trouble

getting out to see and

that now after the neighbors saw that I

was writing things down. There were

four. There is only three of them today.

But I'd like for the parking enforcement

people to notify officer Wells when

there are abandoned cars in the

neighborhood instead of keep putting

tickets on that nobody pays any

attention to. Thank you.

Thank you, Miss Evelyn. Is there anyone

else that would like to offer public

comment? Okay, seeing and hearing no

one, the time is 6:26 p.m. I will

entertain a motion to adjurnn. Is there

a second? Second. Thank you. We stand a

journ.

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