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Was Nietzsche MAGA?

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Summary

The MAGA movement is not a form of mindless nihilism but a manifestation of Nietzschean perspectivism, the will to power, and anti-modernist reactionary impulses that arise to fill the genuine existential void carved out by late-stage capitalism.

Understanding the ideological core of MAGA as an active, perspectivist assertion of individual agency—rather than a mere lack of morals—re-centers the political struggle around how structural economic realities hollow out human meaning.

Section summaries

0:00-4:00

The Boundaries of Morality and Hierarchy

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Abigail opens with a personal anecdote about a friend whose daughter refused to attend Christmas due to his vote for Donald Trump, introducing the conflict between localized, personal morality and universal moral standards. She argues that MAGA supporters do not lack morality, but rather reject universalist moral frameworks in favor of localized, hierarchical ones (such as the traditional authority of a father over an adult daughter). Using the public dispute between Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Mace over trans bathrooms, she illustrates how conservatives often view moral codes as gamified rules ('points on the board') that only apply to select ingroups.

  • Political polarization is often not a conflict between morality and immorality, but a fundamental disagreement about when and to whom moral standards universally apply.
  • Hierarchical worldviews naturally reject universalist equality, assuming that authority and deference dictate moral boundaries.

It establishes the foundational psychological and philosophical framework for the rest of the video's arguments.

4:00-7:00

Perspectivism and the Rejection of Objective Facts

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This section shifts to the status of objective science and facts in political discourse. Abigail shares a surreptitiously recorded conversation from a Montana tea shop where an anti-vaccine Cherokee woman centered her own indigenous identity and personal narrative to reject scientific consensus on immunization and polio. Abigail uses this to introduce Nietzschean perspectivism, the philosophical stance that facts are subordinate to interpretations and that the value of truth is conditional on what an individual wants to achieve with it, culminating in Nietzsche's assertion that there is no objective truth.

  • Nietzschean perspectivism explains why individuals prioritize identity-driven narratives over empirical scientific data.
  • Under perspectivism, the value of a fact is entirely dependent on its utility to the individual's desires and life-force.

It explains the philosophical mechanics behind 'alternative facts' and the rejection of scientific consensus on the right.

7:00-10:00

The Will to Agency and the Trans/Woke Backlash

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Abigail connects perspectivism to economic and social experiences, pointing out how working-class voters reject positive macroeconomic data because it conflicts with their personal reality of high gas and grocery prices. She argues that MAGA supporters are not nihilists; rather, they experience the imposition of objective liberal values as a form of belittling domination. This feeds into conservative outrage over 'compelled speech' and pronoun usage, which they perceive as a secular woke orthodoxy forcing submission rather than respecting their individual freedom to self-author their values.

  • Subjective daily economic pain will always override macroeconomic data in a perspectival political framework.
  • Nietzsche defines freedom as self-authoring your values and reserving the power to change them, which explains conservative backlash to inclusive linguistic standards.

It bridges abstract Nietzschean epistemology with concrete political issues like the economy and culture-war pronoun debates.

10:00-13:00

The Will to Power and the Logic of Cruelty

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Abigail defines Nietzsche's 'Will to Power' as a fundamental drive for agency and control over one's destiny. She outlines Nietzsche's egoism, which posits that all seemingly altruistic acts (like charity, pity, or progressive virtue signaling) are covert attempts to assert superiority over others. She then applies this to the MAGA defense of political retribution and cruelty, showing how, in a Nietzschean framework, the infliction of suffering is historically vindicated as a necessary tool for discipline, contract enforcement, and social predictability.

  • Conservatives often interpret progressive altruism as a cynical 'Will to Power' play disguised as self-righteous morality.
  • Nietzschean genealogy links the infliction of suffering to the creation of social order, promising, and predictability, rationalizing right-wing retribution.

It provides deep philosophical insight into how political cruelty and conspiracy-mindedness are rationalized on the right.

13:00-15:00

JD Vance and the Appeal of Heroic Individualism

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Focusing on JD Vance's 2020 essay 'Why I Joined the Resistance,' Abigail traces Vance's ideological shift from left-wing atheism to far-right Catholicism. She details Vance's critique of the modern left: while the left correctly diagnoses structural issues like poverty and addiction, its solutions rob individuals of moral heroism, leaving them in a depressed, nihilistic void. Vance's insistence on spiritual renewal and individual virtue is framed as highly Nietzschean, focusing on replacing 'Thou Shalt Not' with 'I Will,' despite Nietzsche's historical hatred of religion.

  • The political left's purely structural/systemic messaging can inadvertently foster an existential, agency-deprived nihilism.
  • Modern conservatism appeals to individuals by framing life as a battleground for heroic, individual moral choices rather than passive survival.

It offers a brilliant case-study analysis of JD Vance's political theology through a continental lens.

15:00-19:00

Anti-Modernism and the Corporate-Fascist Alliance

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Abigail introduces 'Anti-Modernism,' a 200-year-old intellectual and aesthetic tradition that views modern pluralism as an apocalyptic threat to traditional values. She links this tradition to figures like Jordan Peterson, anti-woke media panics, and rhetoric about 'poisoning the blood of the nation' (shared by Nietzsche, Hitler, and Trump). She draws a direct line between Nietzsche's critiques of democratic representatives and modern corporate efforts to dismantle the administrative state (exemplified by Elon Musk's DOGE), arguing that the merger of anti-modernist state capture and corporate deregulation is the historical definition of fascism.

  • Anti-modernism operates primarily as an apocalyptic vibe, consistently falsely predicting societal collapse whenever traditional hierarchies are questioned.
  • The alliance between cultural anti-modernism and deregulatory corporate capital forms the exact structural architecture of fascism.

It connects Nietzsche to the systemic, historical definitions of fascism and modern corporate oligarchs like Elon Musk.

19:00-23:00

The Capitalism Void and Wendy Brown's Dilemma

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This section examines the structural violence of late-stage capitalism, which treats humans as interchangeable, highly mobile containers of skills to be exploited for corporate profit, stripping them of local identity, family stability, and art. Abigail uses political theorist Wendy Brown's work to explain how liberal democracy's moral neutrality leaves a terrifying vacuum. Because the democratic state does not mandate a singular set of values, the modern citizen is left vulnerable to aggressive, predatory systems (such as capitalistic profit, nationalism, racism, and religious fundamentalism) rushing in to fill the existential void.

  • Late capitalism is inherently anti-life, reducing unique individuals to commodified, interchangeable units of production.
  • The separation of church and state in liberal democracy leaves an existential vacuum that is easily exploited by aggressive, reactionary dogmas.

This is the climax of the video's systemic critique, linking existentialism directly to neoliberal economic structures.

23:00-31:00

Pluralist Growth, Personal Reflection, and Outro

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Abigail concludes with a personal story about reflexively defending her use of the word 'freak' in front of a disabled friend, before realizing that adjusting her vocabulary actually expanded both of their freedoms. She critiques the ultimate failure of Nietzschean and anti-modernist hyper-individualism, pointing to the isolation and misery of figures like Elon Musk as proof that absolute self-reliance is a dead end. She advocates for pluralism, modernism, and collective growth before pitching her exclusive content on Nebula, including a third part to this Nietzsche series based on the game 'The Outer Worlds.' The video concludes with a full-length musical performance.

  • Hyper-individualism on a treadmill of dominance yields an isolated, miserable existence devoid of meaningful connection.
  • True freedom is not found in unilateral self-assertion (the Will to Power), but in collective, reflective adjustments that foster mutual growth.

While the personal reflection is excellent, the latter half transitions into a platform advertisement and a musical performance.

Key points

  • Perspectivism Over Objective Fact — Nietzschean perspectivism posits that facts are only meaningful within contexts shaped by individual utility and desire, rendering the pursuit of unconditional, objective truth secondary to personal psychological transformation and self-assertion.
  • The Cynical Hermeneutics of the Will to Power — Under a Nietzschean lens, every living thing is driven by a 'will to power' (or agency), meaning that progressive moral framework adjustments (such as pronoun usage or altruism) are viewed by conservatives not as genuine ethical stances, but as covert, self-serving power plays designed to dominate others.
  • The Anti-Modernist/Corporate Alliance — Anti-modernism is a 200-year-old reactionary tradition that views the loss of absolute cultural or religious values as apocalyptic. When these anti-modernists seek to dismantle state-mediated democratic institutions, they form a symbiotic alliance with deregulatory corporate interests, creating the structural alignment historically defined as fascism.
  • Wendy Brown's Democratic Vacuum — Unlike a theocracy, a liberal democracy does not prescribe absolute moral values, forcing individuals to define their own existential purpose. However, late-stage capitalism exploits this freedom by reducing individuals to interchangeable 'nails in a fence post' to maximize rent and profit, creating a nihilistic void that is quickly filled by reactionary ideologies like nationalism, racism, or religious fundamentalism.
there are no facts only interpretations Abigail Thorn (quoting Friedrich Nietzsche)
a compassion that assumes a person is disadvantaged to the point of hopelessness is like sympathy for a zoo animal and I had no use for it Abigail Thorn (quoting JD Vance's 2020 essay)

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I have a friend who I'm pretty sure

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voted for Donald Trump and right before

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Christmas he was upset because his

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daughter supported Harris and she didn't

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want her Republican relatives around for

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the holidays my friend couldn't

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understand this perspective he said that

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politics is personal and you should

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never shun someone least of all a family

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member for their personal choice on the

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flip side his daughter couldn't

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understand his perspective how could you

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put somebody's choice to vote Trump off

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to one side like it just doesn't even

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matter at all I think we can explain

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this conflict with a little bit of help

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from 19th century German philosopher

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Friedrich ner in fact I think we can

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explain a lot of the Maga movement

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generally using n's work so here we go

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some people think that morality

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shouldn't come into business that hey

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whatever right and wrong says you've

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just got to do what's right for the

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company so they still believe in

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Morality they just have a different

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belief about when it applies similarly

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my trump voting friend doesn't lack

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morals he's not an animal when he says

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politics is personal he just means that

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there isn't a universal moral standard

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there's no one way that everybody should

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vote Just A diversity of opinions his

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daughter evidently disagrees and thinks

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there is a universal moral standard that

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applies in every voting booth that

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voting Republican in this particular

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election at least was morally wrong and

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she doesn't want to associate with

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anyone who did so it's not that she has

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morals and he doesn't they both have

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morals the disagreement is about

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when they should come into play now for

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n it is a mistake to think that morality

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is universal and applies to everyone all

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the time he was quite comfortable saying

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that for some people the rules are just

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different especially if they are a

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better class of person we just did a

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video about that if you're curious you

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can go and check it out now my trump

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voting friend is not a white supremacist

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in fact he's black but he does believe

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in hierarchy I think it's fair to say he

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thinks he has some authority over his

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daughter especially whilst he's still

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supporting her he might not call it

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Authority he might say that he has a

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responsibility to raise her right and

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prepare her for the world and so on but

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it's clear that he expects some amount

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of difference from her as part of that

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relationship and he regards that

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deference as flowing naturally to him

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despite the fact that his daughter is in

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fact an adult in other words in his mind

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there is a hierarchy and so the rules

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are different morality doesn't always

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apply and if there's a disagreement

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about when it does he should have the

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final say because he's the dad if you're

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more inclined to view everybody as equal

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then you might not have a problem with

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saying no actually the rules are the

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same for everyone and there is a

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universal moral standard but that is not

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the way that n would look at it here's

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another example Nancy mace US

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Representative for North Carolina she

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said some very nasty things about trans

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people and triy to have us banned from

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using public bathrooms she was

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confronted in her office off by AOC and

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AOC said hey like don't you think this

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is kind of bad don't you think this is

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kind of hurtful I mean you shouldn't say

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those things about trans people right

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and Nancy mace replied whatever you know

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it's a game points on the board to me

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that doesn't suggest a lack of morality

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so much as a disagreement about when it

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applies and to whom to AOC morality

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obviously applies to trans people like

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you shouldn't say those sorts of

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horrible things about us or try and have

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our rights restricted but to Nancy mace

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apparently uh we don't really come under

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the scope of morality it's it's just a

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game points on the board now it would be

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nice if we could all just agree to

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disagree about whether morality applies

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to say

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voting it would be nice if families

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around the world could come together

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over the holidays and not fight about

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stuff but there is a universal standard

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that we are all bound by there is

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something that affects every single one

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of us and that

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is the amount of carbon dioxide in

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Earth's atmosphere I think about this

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quite often uh that some of the classic

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philosophers we still read today were

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writing at a time when people didn't

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know about global warming I mean it's

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all well and good to Champion

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individuality and individual

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perspectives but we do in fact all live

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on one very precarious planet and our

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actions including voting do have an

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effect on whether or not it remains

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habitable it certainly seems like some

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things should matter from everybody's

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perspective I mean isn't that just

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science well here's a little story about

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science in December of last year I was

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in Montana which is a part of planet

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Earth I went into a te- shop in Montana

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and whilst I was waiting for my order I

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ease dropped on the conversation that

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the couple next to me were having

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apologies if you were that couple your

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convers was just too fascinating not to

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listen in on they were talking

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about vaccines the woman was saying that

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she didn't trust vaccines she didn't

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want her kids to get any vaccines and

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here's some quotes of things she

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actually said that I surreptitiously

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wrote down in my phone you trust Western

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medson because it's worked for you but

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for me Weston medson killed my mom I

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trust my kids bodies to do what they're

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meant to do I'm Cherokee my ancestors

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were Cherokee so I'm very in touch with

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nature and natural healing people say to

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me oh you reject science you want polio

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to come back and they're so stupid polio

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was cured cuz we cleaned up the water it

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wasn't the vaccine so I actually know

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more science than you that last point is

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false by the way uh the the cleaning up

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the water did help with the polio

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situation but we did actually beat polio

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with a vaccine I'd be doing like

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misinformation if I didn't tell you that

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I was really struck by how often that

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woman centered herself and her own

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perspective in the conversation they

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were having all of the things she said

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were about her identity as a woman as a

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daughter as a mother as a person of

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indigenous American descent even that

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last remark about polio was about her in

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contrast to some imaginary other person

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who knew less than her she talked a lot

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more about herself than she did about

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things like facts or evidence or studies

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and I'm not necessarily bashing her for

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that I'm just noticing it and saying

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that it's interesting philosophers might

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call that

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perspectivism and we find a lot of it in

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Fredick nature facts and science only

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matter from somebody's personal

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perspective the value of Truth is not

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unconditional the value of a fact

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depends on what you want to do with it

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here's some quotes from Fredick n's book

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the will to power there is no truth the

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concept truth is nonsensical there are

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no facts only interpretations now you

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might well say that's just ridiculous

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and it's also self-refuting and you're

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risking throwing away so much of what

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Humanity has achieved through science

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and reason but a nitian would come back

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and say no truth is only meaningful in

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contexts shaped by our desires and

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desire is what life is really about to

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deny that is to deny what it means to be

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alive in very general terms nature

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thought that Society has gone wrong

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we're all being held back and kept down

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by dominant standards of morality and

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the cure for this is to try and have a

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personal psychological transformation

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become an individual and assert yourself

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perspectivism is part of that project

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here is another example now you might

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say that under President Joe Biden the

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United States had the best postco

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economic recovery of any G7 Nation you

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might say that under Biden the US

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economy was pretty good all things

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considered relative to other countries

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and relative to what it might have been

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but a nian would say I don't care what

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the macroeconomic picture says when

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groceries gasoline rent and health

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insurance cost most of my wages yes

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those things are facts they are true I'm

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not denying that but that truth doesn't

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matter to what I want to do there this

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trend I've seen where liberals say that

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Trump supporters are nihilist that they

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don't care about anything but

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perspectivism isn't nihilism they do

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care about some things again like my

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trump voting friend doesn't lack values

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he just doesn't value all the same

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things at the same time as me and if you

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try to impose values on people as if

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they are objective if you try to say you

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have to care about these facts a lot of

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people experience that as belittling

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when we think

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about freedom and and ask what is

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freedom an nian would say it has two

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parts to it firstly Freedom means seeing

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your values your goals your intentions

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and what you want to do as coming from

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you chosen by you rather than given to

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you by someone else secondly Freedom

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means the ability to reflect on those

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values and goals and change them if you

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want to so now I'm thinking

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about

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pronouns and how a lot of conservatives

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can get up set about compelled speech

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when they're asked to use

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trans-inclusive language over the last

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few years there's been a greater

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recognition that queer people exist and

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hello we're part of society hi nice to

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see you we've been here the whole time

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and that includes you know making a few

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accommodations so that life is a little

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bit easier for us and some conservatives

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have gotten very upset about that they

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see it as something being forced down

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their throats like it's the new religion

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it's the new woke

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Orthodoxy say the damn pronouns

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according to Nature every living thing

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has this drive inside

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called the will to power maybe a better

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translation would be will to agency or

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will to Freedom Will To Power is the

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translation that everybody knows but the

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idea is that we all want to feel like we

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are in control of Our Lives we all want

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to feel like we're powerful and strong

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and the Masters of our own Destinies

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there are lots of ways to fulfill the

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will to power dominating somebody else

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through violence is a very very obvious

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way but thought there are more subtle

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ways too pity and charity are according

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to him expressions of the will to power

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if you help somebody out you're really

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just trying to reassure yourself of your

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own Superior status and you know you

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could even call that virtue signaling n

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was an egoist he didn't believe in

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unselfish actions even things that look

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ostensibly altruistic are according to

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him secretly selfish all along your

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mileage may vary on whether or not you

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believe that I see a lot of

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conservatives who seem to think that

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Liberals are pulling some kind of con uh

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whether it's an explicit conspiracy like

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queing on or like putting stuff in the

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vaccines or or whether it's just virtue

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signaling uh they say stuff like well

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you don't really care about global

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warming or or vaccines or or queer

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people or inclusive language you don't

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really care about any of those things

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you're just using your Will To Power

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it's just a secret Ploy for control and

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you cloak your Will To Power in

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self-righteous moral language but I see

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right through you that's a nan Outlook

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they're trying to explain Society in

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terms of the will to power they're

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analyzing ideologies like progressivism

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and trying to tell a story about where

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they come from and why they're secretly

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bad there's this other Trend I've seen

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where liberals and leftists paint Trump

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supporters as cruel as delighting in

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cruelty and causing suffering and they

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often point out things like Donald Trump

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has promised to take retribution against

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his enemies but on the flip side I see

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some Maga people portraying that as kind

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of a good thing as a as a willingness to

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be tough that in some sense aligns with

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reality like yeah it's tough but but you

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you got to be that way sometimes or or

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you know it's the discipline that that

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people need or in some way at least it's

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an understandable instinct to want

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retribution nature thought that we all

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have a desire to cause suffering to

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others that we bury deep down inside us

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and he actually thought there's nothing

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wrong with it in fact he thought it has

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several beneficial effects the point

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punishment he said was to make people

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remember if you do something bad and you

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get hit for it you'll remember it and so

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he says the desire to cause suffering to

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one another is the foundation of all

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promises and contract and economic

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exchange and even reason itself it makes

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people predictable and orderly and hence

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it allows us to form goals and make

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plans based on the expectation that

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others will behave consistently so

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painful yes but also kind of necessary

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and that's a Sim rationalization that I

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see some Maga people making and

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now

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Jesus JD Vance wrote a very interesting

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essay in 2020 called why I joined the

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resistance if you didn't know Vance used

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to be a left-wing atheist and now he's a

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far right Catholic and the essay is

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about why that switch happened in his

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essay Vance says that the left often

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correctly diagnoses problems like

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poverty and addiction as structural and

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yet even in very privileged places like

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Elite universities there are plenty of

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people who have a lot of resources who

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aren't poor but are still addicted and

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depressed and stuck in a nihilist void

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thrashing their lives away in pursuit of

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pointless prizes and so he says in his

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opinion America needs a spiritual

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renewal to fill that void he likes that

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kind of solution because it gives people

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a chance for virtue it's something they

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can individually reach for they can make

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good choices heroic choices even whereas

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the left tends to say well hey here's a

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problem with society and if you want to

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do something about it too bad this issue

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is systemic and by the way here's a list

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of words you can't say anymore you don't

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really get to be a hero you just avoid

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getting canceled while I agreed that

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more resources were often necessary

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there seemed to me a sense in which our

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most dist dtive behaviors persisted even

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flourished in times of material Comfort

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the economic left was often more

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compassionate but there's was a kind of

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compassion devoid of any expectation

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that rre of giving up a compassion that

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assumes a person is disadvantaged to the

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point of hopelessness is like sympathy

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for a zoo animal and I had no use for it

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now n was not a big fan of religion he

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hated it so he wouldn't approve of

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Vance's conclusions but the steps that

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Vance takes to get there are very nichan

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it's all about becoming a heroic

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individual like becoming the main

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character instead of an NPC replacing

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Thou shalt not with I will now let's

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take a big step back and we'll put all

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of this

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together there's a genre of writing

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called anti-modernism it's been around

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for about 200 years and the vibe is this

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modern society is decadent and we know

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this because values that used to be

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unquestionable are now being questioned

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it's okay to doubt religion publicly

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it's okay to criticize the founding

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stories of the nation or go against

15:50

long-standing institutions and so we've

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lost our absolute values we've lost our

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way and this is very very bad not only

15:57

bad in fact it's apocalyptic every

16:01

generation of anti-modernist has claimed

16:03

that the current decadence is the last

16:06

straw if Obama wins he'll make

16:09

Christianity illegal if Jeremy Corbin

16:11

wins he'll never leave office if the

16:14

French Revolution sticks Europe will

16:16

devolve into Anarchy if the sjws get

16:18

their way then video games will be taken

16:19

away forever and if if if if the

16:23

feminisms

16:24

then men forget about it this is always

16:28

more of a Vibe than an argument anti

16:31

modernists have claimed for the last 200

16:32

years that Society stands on the brink

16:34

of nihilism and chaos

16:36

and they've been consistently wrong but

16:39

it is a very popular tune Jordan

16:43

Peterson absolutely fits in here you

16:47

know how on YouTube now there's suddenly

16:48

loads of videos about which video games

16:50

and movies are woke or anti-woke and

16:53

there's this whole like Dei moral

16:55

Panic that's antimodernism too it's all

16:58

this anxiet y about old values being

17:00

questioned now that more people are

17:01

getting included when conservatives say

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that Liberals are doing things like

17:04

changing the meaning of the word woman

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and making it so you can't even speak

17:09

the truth about biology anymore that's

17:11

anti-modernism too you know you're

17:13

questioning the old ways when manosphere

17:15

misogynists say that women should be

17:17

tradwives and men should be Alphas even

17:18

though that doesn't seem to make either

17:20

group happy when conservatives say

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things like oh immigrants are are coming

17:25

in and they don't share our values and

17:26

they're poisoning the blood of the

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nation that's all anti-modernism too you

17:30

know you're mixing things that shouldn't

17:31

be mixed spiritually morally racially

17:34

poisoning the blood that was a phrase

17:38

used by Frederick

17:40

ner and then by Adolf Hitler and then by

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Donald Trump Elon musk's Department of

17:45

government efficiency and the British

17:47

conservative party saying that there's

17:48

too many woke Dei higher civil servants

17:51

now too many too many federal employees

17:54

getting in the way of the will of the

17:56

People Too Much discussion too much

17:58

abstraction too much questioning not

18:00

enough doing he just said the exact same

18:02

thing he said that Germany had too many

18:05

representatives and intermediaries in

18:07

politics and not enough men of action I

18:09

mean once you start reading it it really

18:11

is astonishing how much it's just the

18:15

same thing when anti-modernist go on

18:18

this let's shrink the state Crusade they

18:21

become natural allies of big

18:23

corporations big corporations hate

18:25

regulation and government because it

18:27

cuts into their profits so they team up

18:31

Elon Musk is the embodiment of that team

18:34

up the solution that anti-modernist pose

18:37

is usually one of two things either we

18:41

all have to become religious again or we

18:45

all have to embrace some kind of new

18:47

values that don't include things like

18:51

pluralism uh and freedom and discussion

18:53

and democracy in practice though it

18:55

shakes out to the same thing

18:57

dictatorship

18:59

for anti- modernists Liberal democracy

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was a mistake that needs to be rolled

19:02

back and when anti modernists team up

19:05

with big corporations to take over the

19:07

government historians call that

19:10

mix fascism but here's why we can't just

19:14

dismiss it as nihilism or Madness

19:17

because there is a kind of void at the

19:21

heart of society of course there is we

19:23

can feel it every day I I

19:26

mean check this out unless you win the

19:29

lottery or you come from money you're

19:31

basically just a container for skills

19:34

that employers want at the drop of a hat

19:37

you might have to move cities move

19:40

countries retrain give up your artistic

19:43

dreams learn to code take on debt

19:47

neglect your family neglect your health

19:48

neglect your caring responsibilities you

19:52

know disregard your heritage lose your

19:55

accent and and become indistinguishable

19:57

from a billion people all trying to do

20:00

the exact same thing as interchangeable

20:01

as nails and a fence posts all to make

20:04

money some of which is going to go to

20:06

you but but most of which actually is

20:07

going to go to your boss uh and your

20:10

landlord and your insurance company if

20:12

you're American that is a kind of

20:15

nihilism that that is against living

20:17

it's against human life it doesn't make

20:20

anyone feel good I mean it definitely

20:22

happens if you're poor but there are a a

20:25

lot of places like Elite universities

20:27

where there are plenty of people who

20:28

would just burned out on how difficult

20:32

it is to make a living that is the way

20:35

that the economy is organized and it

20:39

sucks it it it sucked in n's time and it

20:43

sucks even harder now we should change

20:47

this in Nature's Universe culture is

20:51

Downstream from politics which is

20:53

Downstream from values which is

20:55

Downstream from race but a more accurate

20:57

picture would be be to say that

20:59

everything is Downstream from the way

21:01

that the economy is organized even our

21:03

values and we all have to compromise our

21:05

values so often just to survive and

21:09

here's the final

21:14

twist the philosopher Wendy Brown says

21:17

that in a

21:19

theocracy the government tells you who

21:21

you have to be worship this God value

21:24

these things follow these rules but in a

21:26

liberal democracy the government doesn't

21:28

do that doesn't tell you what you're

21:29

supposed to Value because you have

21:30

things like separation of church and

21:32

state and pursuit of happiness and a

21:33

degree of individual liberty and so on

21:35

the idea is you bring your own values to

21:38

life and you you you find out what they

21:40

are by living it making a conscious

21:42

choice about what you value out of life

21:45

and what it is that you want doing the

21:47

kind of Nan thing of becoming an

21:49

individual and asserting yourself and

21:50

and claiming your own values it's really

21:53

really difficult it's scary there's a

21:56

lot of obstacles in the way and what if

21:58

it turns out that your values and the

22:00

things that you want out of life aren't

22:03

what mainstream Society approves of well

22:05

then things can get a little difficult

22:07

believe me so we get this tension

22:11

between Democratic nihilism which is

22:15

kind of by Design and like kind of a

22:17

good thing it allows you room to grow as

22:19

an individual and bring your own values

22:20

to life and on the other hand we have

22:23

capitalism running in and saying I know

22:24

what the answer is you should value

22:27

making a profit and we have nationalism

22:29

running in and saying I know what you

22:30

should value you should value the nation

22:31

and we have racism running in saying I

22:33

know what you should value you should

22:34

value the race and we have religion

22:35

running in and saying I know what you

22:37

should value you should value the

22:38

teachings in this book and so there's

22:40

this constant push and pull between

22:42

democracy and anti-democracy going on

22:45

all the time

22:48

wow we've really come a long way from

22:51

from my friend arguing with his daughter

22:53

I really wish I had a a kind of piffy

22:55

video essay answer to this uh to this

22:57

problem that Wendy Brown identifies that

22:59

is kind of the philosophy tube way isn't

23:01

it like hey but here's the thing that

23:02

you can do here's the here's the John

23:04

Oliver positive takeaway but uh I really

23:06

do think that that tension is quite

23:08

possibly one of the defining questions

23:10

of the 21st century so we are all going

23:12

to find out the answer together in real

23:15

time here's something that I thought of

23:17

though when I was writing this episode I

23:19

have another friend who was born

23:21

disabled and a while ago I used the word

23:24

freak in front of her to describe

23:27

someone else and she to me

23:29

hey that word really makes me feel bad

23:31

could could you use something else and

23:33

just for a second I got mad in my head

23:35

cuz I was like obviously I wouldn't use

23:38

the word freak to describe you I would

23:40

never use the word freak to describe

23:41

somebody who was disabled like stop

23:43

telling me what to say obviously I would

23:45

use it to describe someone who was weird

23:47

I wouldn't use it in that way like why

23:49

are you telling me that I'm bad why do

23:50

you think that I'm bad how could you

23:51

think that about me just just just get

23:53

off my back is what I thought but then I

23:55

reflected a little bit and I realized

23:57

that using a different word probably

24:01

wasn't going to impact me all that much

24:03

and by using that word I was sort of

24:07

throwing her off the balance of her day

24:09

I was like you know putting a wrench in

24:10

her in her system and I could avoid

24:13

doing that so having reflected

24:19

internally I made the choice to bump

24:22

that word down the list of my vocabulary

24:24

I made her life a little easier and that

24:27

decision came came from me so I enhanced

24:29

her freedom and I also used my freedom

24:34

it wasn't a a Will To Power trick she

24:37

wasn't trying to Will To Power me and I

24:39

wasn't trying to get like woke brownie

24:40

points by using my will to power to kind

24:42

of virtue signal to her it was it was

24:44

just we enhanced our freedom together

24:48

antimodernism and nature are both pretty

24:53

individualistic and that's where I think

24:56

it kind of falls down this trying to

24:59

become a heroic individual thing that to

25:03

me feels a little bit like being on a

25:05

treadmill because even if you you become

25:08

the great individual and you achieve

25:09

everything you become so dominant and

25:11

strong like who who do you have to share

25:12

it with I mean you know look at a guy

25:15

like Elon

25:16

Musk he has so much and he's he's

25:19

miserable he's the richest man in the

25:21

world but like you know ketman is not

25:23

that expensive nobody who accomplished

25:24

anything worthwhile ever managed it on

25:26

their own and and not everybody who

25:27

challenges us is trying to pull some

25:28

kind of Will To Power virtue signaling

25:31

trick on us sometimes that they're just

25:32

trying to grow too I I mean here's my

25:35

hot take that's why I kind of like

25:37

pluralism and and modernism and

25:40

individual freedom because we all have

25:42

the potential to grow and change and in

25:44

unexpected ways we have the potential to

25:46

do it together too and and that's why I

25:49

like that the government doesn't tell me

25:51

what to believe or what God to worship

25:52

because you

25:54

know who knows what you could turn out

25:56

to be that's that's how I think of it

25:58

anyway it's not really a conclusion it's

25:59

more of just a hey that's that's

26:02

something that occurred to me when I was

26:03

writing this I think it's good that

26:05

Society doesn't Just Produce clones of

26:07

the same person all the time you know I

26:09

think it's good that everyone's not just

26:11

NPCs and uh and speaking of NPCs I

26:14

actually wrote A Part three to This n

26:16

series it's about a video game called

26:19

the outer worlds uh and how it helps me

26:22

confront nihilism uh like a lot of

26:24

people I've been feeling the nihilist

26:28

void

26:28

lately and feeling a little bit of

26:30

Despair so I wrote a little video about

26:32

a a video game I like and and how it

26:34

helps me deal with that that video

26:36

wouldn't really work on this YouTube

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26:40

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tonight we'll take on the world again

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tonight

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we pushed your luck all in over

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dry we tore the roof right out of the

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sky you made me promise not to ever let

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go and so I had to let go go go go go so

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I will take on the world again

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tonight I will take on the world again

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we us to up all

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tonight will take on the way

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