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Harrisburg City Council - Legislative Session 4/8/2025

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Summary

The Harrisburg City Council approved selling an outdated fire engine to Highspire Borough and advanced key municipal contracts, while facing intense public testimony regarding police misconduct and lack of transparency. The council also coordinated upcoming civic board appointments and reviewed zoning map changes regarding local liquor license boundaries.

This session highlights critical gaps in local police oversight and transparency while demonstrating how regional municipal cooperation and volunteer cleanups address community-level needs.

Section summaries

0:00-3:06

Intro & Title Screen

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The video starts with a waiting screen and music before the caucus meeting is called to order.

This is just background music and placeholder slides before the meeting begins.

3:06-6:12

Legislative Caucus and Agenda Review

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President Bowers calls the legislative caucus to order, reviewing the upcoming agenda, reports of committees, and scheduled resolutions to structure the formal legislative session.

Useful for understanding the meeting's agenda layout, but the actual discussions occur later.

6:12-8:16

Call to Order & Invocation

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The official legislative session is called to order, followed by roll call, a moment of silence led by Councilman Jones for the Hunter family and struggling residents, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

Establishes who is present and sets a somber, respectful tone for the evening's proceedings.

8:16-13:26

13th Annual Great Harrisburg Litter Cleanup Presentation

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Liz Evans Scolfaro presents on the upcoming volunteer litter cleanup event. She shares statistics from previous years, details partnerships with Capital Region Water and DPW, and highlights the environmental impact of removing tons of trash and tires.

Essential for residents wanting to get involved in local environmental beautification efforts and understand municipal partnerships.

13:26-22:44

Public Comment on Police Misconduct & Safety

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Residents Naima Aken and Robert Williams deliver emotional testimonies detailing alleged police misconduct, calling for transparency, the release of bodycam footage, and the mobilization of the Citizens Law Enforcement Advisory Committee. Ryan Weatherford also speaks briefly on gang prevention.

Highly critical segment showcasing direct citizen grievances, police accountability issues, and calls for council-led investigations.

22:44-27:54

Committee Reports: Administration, Budget, and Finance

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The council reviews the proposed appointment of Cheyenne Johnson to the Environmental Advisory Council and a professional services contract with Conrad Siegel for actuarial evaluations. Bowers notes Johnson's vote is delayed due to financial interest filing rules.

Provides administrative background on civic appointments and routine actuarial services contracts.

27:54-33:04

Resolutions 17 & 19: Fire Truck Sale and Actuarial Services

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Council suspends rules to discuss and unanimously pass Resolution 17, selling a retired 1997 fire pumper to Highspire Borough for $2,000. They also pass Resolution 19, authorizing the professional services agreement with Conrad Siegel.

Covers the only legislative voting actions taken during this meeting.

33:04-36:10

Resolutions 21-24: Committee Referrals

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The clerk reads resolutions regarding a new parks maintenance facility, Capital Region Water board appointments, and construction management services. These resolutions are officially referred to their respective committees.

Records where new business and infrastructure developments are headed for deeper review, but contains no active debate.

36:10-40:18

Old Business: LCB Boundaries and Noise Exemptions

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Solicitor Grover provides an update on Resolution 20, explaining the challenges of mapping local liquor licenses. He outlines the shift from a 'wiggly map' to a cleaner rectangular boundary to satisfy the LCB while protecting neighborhood quality of life.

Contains valuable insight into downtown zoning, noise regulations, and the tension between business districts and residential areas.

40:18-40:18

New Business & Adjournment

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Councilman Rodriguez announces the return of Hotspot Saturdays starting April 19th at Ethel Alley on Allison Hill, followed by the council's formal adjournment.

Offers actionable dates and contact info for residents wanting to volunteer for local neighborhood cleanups.

Key points

  • Demands for Police Oversight and Accountability — During public comment, multiple citizens detailed alleged cases of severe police misconduct, urging the council to use its legislative power to secure bodycam footage and activate the Citizens Law Enforcement Advisory Committee.
  • Inter-Municipal Resource Sharing — Council approved selling a retired 1997 CG Grave pumper fire truck to neighboring Highspire Borough for its low trade-in value of $2,000, assisting a nearby municipality whose only fire truck was out of service.
  • Restructuring LCB Exemption Boundaries — The City Solicitor is working to clean up Harrisburg's irregular liquor license boundary map, shifting to a simpler rectangular layout to help the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board (PLCB) and business owners balance noise regulations with neighbor expectations.
  • Maintaining Quorums on Civic and Utility Boards — The council introduced key resolutions to appoint members to the Environmental Advisory Council (EAC) and the board of Capital Region Water, ensuring these bodies maintain the quorums required to operate and oversee city utilities and conservation.
Let everyone sweep in front of his own door and the whole world will be clean. Liz Evans Scolfaro
Council, this is this silence is not neutrality. It's complicity. When someone is harmed by the government and every door shut in their face, that is not just bureaucracy. That is a breakdown in justice. Robert Williams

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I'd like to take a few moments to

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conduct our legislative caucus prior to

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the start of our legislative

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session. I will call the meeting to

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order. Mr. Parker will lead our roll

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call. The invocation this evening will

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be led by Councilman Jones, followed by

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the pledge of allegiance, which will be

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led by Councilwoman Davis. For

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communications, we uh will receive a

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presentation from Liz Evans Scularro

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uh regarding the 13th annual Great

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Harrisburg Litter Cleanup. We will then

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move to courtesy of the floor, then the

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approval of minutes for the legislative

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session that occurred on March 24th,

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2025. You will hear three uh reports of

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committee this evening. I will deliver

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the first report on behalf of the

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administration committee on the work

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session of April 1st,

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2025, followed by a report from uh our

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budget and finance committee chair, Vice

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President Green on the work session of

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April 1st, 2025. And the final report

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you will hear this evening, well

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actually uh there will be no report from

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the public safety chair, Councilman

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Jones, on the work session of April 1st,

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2025. We will take action on resolution

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17, 2025 later in the agenda. We do not

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have any ordinances for first reading,

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ordinances for amendment, or ordinances

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for final

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passage. Resolution 17 of 2025, we will

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suspend the rules for discussion and

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then we will vote upon resolution 19 of

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2025. We will vote

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upon resolution 21 of 2025. will move to

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the community and economic development

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committee. Resolution 22 of 2025 will

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move to the administration committee.

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Resolution 23 of 2025 will move to the

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administration committee and resolution

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24 of

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2025 will move to

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the public works

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committee. Is there any old business for

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discussion? Council

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members, any new business?

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Madame President, just a reminder for

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Hotspot Saturdays on the 19th. Okay. All

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right.

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Any other new

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business? Okay. And then we will

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adjourn. The time is 6:04 p.m. I would

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like to officially call our legislative

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session to

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order. Mr. Parker, could you please call

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the role?

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Miss Daniels is absent.

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Miss Davis present.

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Miss Green

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present.

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Mr. Jones here. Miss RWS present. Mr.

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Rodriguez present. Ms. Bowers. Present.

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Thank you. The invocation this evening

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will be led by Councilman Jones. Thank

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you, President Bowers. Um, first I want

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to say um I want to send condolences out

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to uh the Hunter family and make sure

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that we have a moment of silence and

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just keep in our hearts and our prayers

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um the people that are struggling in the

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city of Harrisburg. Um it's some very

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turbulent times that we all are dealing

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with, but you know, I just want to make

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sure that we are keeping everyone prayed

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up. So, let's just have a moment of

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silence for the Hunter family and those

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who are struggling in need.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Councilman Jones. The pledge

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of allegiance will be led by

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Councilwoman Davis. Let's stand for the

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pledge,

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please stands

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nation

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with all.

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Thank you, Councilwoman Davis. For

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communications this evening, we uh will

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receive a presentation from Liz Evans

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Scolfaro regarding the 13th annual Great

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Harrisburg Litter

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Cleanup. You're welcome to use this

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microphone if you want to have a seat

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here. just please make sure that it is

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very close to you so that those viewing

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online can are able to hear you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you to the honorable council for

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uh allowing us to speak tonight. Very

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appreciative. Um as President Bower

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said, I'm Liz. I'm revitalization

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coordinator for Tri County Community

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Action. Um, I work in uh Tri Countyy's

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Allison Hill office and

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um the cleanup is now in its 13th year

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and draws hundreds of individuals and

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groups who clean the city's Allison

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Hill, Midtown, and Uptown neighborhoods

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on one Saturday in April around Earth

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Day.

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As council knows very well, litter is an

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ongoing problem here in

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Harrisburg. This despite the fact that

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individuals and groups are regularly

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working hard to beautify city

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neighborhoods, including Councilman

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Rodriguez's Hotspot Saturdays.

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One goal of the great Harrisburg Litter

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Cleanup is to show residents how much

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good can be done in a single morning and

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to inspire them to keep their own blocks

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litter-f free. There's a famous saying

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that's over 200 years old u but it's

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still true

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today. Let everyone sweep in front of

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his own door and the whole world will be

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clean.

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It's this philosophy that we hope our

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neighbors will embrace in larger

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numbers. Last year, we had

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425 registered volunteers who picked up

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about five tons of litter. We also got

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six tons of tires out of the waist

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stream that day and properly disposed

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of. It was roughly 600 passenger tires.

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We are grateful to our partners who help

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make the cleanup a success, especially

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the city's department of public works.

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The extensive experience that public

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works supervisors possess make the

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entire cleanup run more smoothly. to say

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nothing of the huge amount of work done

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by its drivers and other

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employees. We rely on Capitol Region

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Water, which also provides trucks,

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drivers, and workers, and Lancaster

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County Solid Waste Management Authority,

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which allows us to dispose of all the

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collected trash for free at the

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Harrisburg Incinerator.

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We also work with Waste Management, Keep

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Pennsylvania Beautiful, area churches,

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and schools, including Logos Academy in

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Midtown and Lighthouse Christian Academy

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in Allison Hill. A good number of

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Harrisburg Area Community College

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students have also signed up this year

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to volunteer.

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It's really rewarding to see how hard

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the school kids work and how proud they

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are of the difference they've made. We

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believe that winning the hearts and

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minds of young people will bring about

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lasting change in attitudes toward

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litter and about the importance of

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making it a thing of the past.

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Harrisburg sustainability coordinator

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Maline Good is working to have the city

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donate healthy snacks to our volunteers

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for which we're grateful. Um, PENDOT

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provides Tri County Community Action

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with hundreds of trash bags, work

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gloves, and safety vests for our

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volunteers. Although we also buy

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hundreds more trash bags, litter

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picking, grab and reach tools for our

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volunteers to use, and t-shirts as our

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way of saying thank

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you. For me, one of the most inspiring

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things about the great Harrisburg Litter

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Cleanup is that it's a true

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collaboration between citizens,

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nonprofits, city and state government,

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schools, and private businesses. It's an

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example of how communities can

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accomplish great things when we all work

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together. Tri County's mission is to

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make a difference in people's lives in

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part by working to make their

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neighborhoods safer and more beautiful

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places to live. The annual Great

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Harrisburg Litter Cleanup is just one of

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the ways we undertake to fulfill that

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goal. Thank you again for the

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opportunity to speak. I've brought

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flyers in case you're interested and I'm

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happy to answer any questions you might

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have now or at the end of your meeting.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so

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much. We will now move to courtesy of

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the floor. Just a few housekeeping notes

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before we begin. Please state your name

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and your address for the meeting record.

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If you don't feel comfortable sharing

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your address, please share the vicinity

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in which you live within the city. You

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will have four minutes to share your

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comments. Mr. Parker will serve as our

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timekeeper. I will begin to my right. Is

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there anyone that would like to offer

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public comment?

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Hi, good afternoon. My name's sorry. My

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name's Naima Aken. I live in Enola,

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Pennsylvania at the time. But when this

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happened to me, I was visiting my mother

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on Mccclelay Street in Harrisburg. Um, I

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was parked on more street and I was

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leaving my mother's house.

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can't remember the alleyway, but I

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remember turning down Woodbine Street

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and then turning down um Sixth Street

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and then I turned on Mlay Street, seeing

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a cop in the front of me. So, I thought

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they was pulling over a cop a car in the

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front of me. So, I was going to go

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around the cop car, but then I seen him

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backing up and then turning sideways.

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All of a sudden, I seen the officer jump

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out his car,

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pointing the gun at me. So, All of a

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sudden, a whole bunch of cop cars were

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sorry was swirmed um around me. I pulled

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down my my window and was asking what

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did I do and the officer was telling me

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to get out the car. So, I tried to

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explain to the officer that I have a

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cane and I have a brace on my leg, but

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he yanked me out the car and put me in

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handcuffs. As I was on the

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floor, I'm still yelling, "What did I

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do? Can somebody call my mother?" The

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officer told me that I was sorry that I

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was I was grown and I'm still saying,

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"What did I do? What What did I do?" The

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supervisor officer came, took me out of

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handcuffs, put me back, help me back in

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my car, up off the floor. Then he told

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me that first he said that I was pulled

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over because of stop sign. Then I was

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told I was pulled over because of my

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tent. Then I was told I was pulled over

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cuz I thought I they thought I had a gun

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in my car. Then I was told I was pulled

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over. Can't remember the fourth one at

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this

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time. I can't remember the fourth one at

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this time. He put me back in the car. I

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called my mother to tell her what was

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going going on. I was so shaky. I

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couldn't um drive my car. So one of the

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officers had to get in my car.

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supervisor walked me to the gas station

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on Mcclelay, but then my knee gave out

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cuz I was so shaky. Um, the officer then

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helped me back up, walked me to my car

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again, and he was just talking to me,

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asked me, "Did I need medical

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attention?" At first, I said no, but I

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was so shaky. my head was hurting me

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because when they bought me out the car,

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my head bust on the floor, also the left

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side of my body. Um he did call um

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paramedics. Paramedics did arrive later

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and my blood pressure was like 200 over

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like 120. So I did um go to West Shore

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Hospital and I did get treated there.

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The MRI didn't show nothing, but I did

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have like a bruise on my um sorry my

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forehead and a lump under underneath my

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eye. They treated me for high blood

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pressure because it wouldn't go down.

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also gave me like Adan for

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um an

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anxiety. I said

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anything. I did go to court and pay um a

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fine for for my tent. And they had the

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wrong officer on the um on the paper.

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The officer that showed up that was the

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officer that was on the p was on the

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paper that find

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me. Can't remember anything else right

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now. I can't remember his name right

18:32

now. Applebe was the officer.

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Ma'am, I'm sorry, but your time has

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expired. Okay. Thank you. Do you mind um

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staying back after our meeting to meet

18:49

with Councilman Jones, our public safety

18:51

committee chair? Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

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Is there anyone else?

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Okay. Hello everyone. Ryan Weatherford,

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1100 North Third Street. Um was just

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coming in today to uh just point out

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something I noticed just uh just in

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learning the city better and just uh

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want to do a focus on gang prevention um

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just to make sure that uh we doing the

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right things to keep our streets safe. I

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think we're doing a great job and

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they're doing a better focus on those

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things as we uh head into the rest of

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the year. So I just want to thank

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everybody for listening to my comments a

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little while back and uh if anybody

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needs anything in regard to game

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prevention um definitely reach out to me

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willing to have any conversations with

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anybody. I'm a minister um at the mid so

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you know if anybody needs a conversation

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um if anybody needs to know what

19:52

happened you know I'm here you know 247

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365 even on leap

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year. So that's all I got to say about

20:02

that.

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Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

20:07

right that would like to offer public

20:09

comment?

20:15

Good evening, Cindy

20:16

Council. Uh, my name is Robert Williams.

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I'm a resident of Capitol Heights here

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in Harrisburg. I'm standing before you

20:23

tonight not just as a citizen, but as

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someone who was violated physically,

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emotionally, and constitutionally by the

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very department this body is asked to

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oversee. On the night of January 27th, I

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experienced what I believe is a clear

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case of police misconduct inside my

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home. Immediately after the incident, I

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began seeking answers. I filed an act 22

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and right to know request. I came here

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and spoke during public comment. I filed

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motions to court. I even secured

20:47

subpoena for body cam footage. I still

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have not seen that footage. I have not

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received the incident report. I have not

20:52

received the use use of force report and

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I have not received a single update from

20:57

the city. I was told it was under

20:59

investigation. But two months later, the

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only communication I received is one

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single phone call from Detective Fixer

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from the internal affairs department.

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three three weeks after the incident and

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nothing. No follow-up, no documentation,

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just silence. Council, this is this

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silence is not neutrality. It's

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complicity. When someone is harmed by

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the government and every door shut in

21:18

their face, that is not just

21:20

bureaucracy. That is a breakdown in

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justice. And I am urging you with every

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ounce of respect I still have in this

21:26

process to intervene. I'm asking the

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council to take five clear actions

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within well within your legal authority

21:33

as a thirdass city government. Hold a

21:35

public hearing through the public safety

21:37

committee. Invite testimony from the

21:39

officers involved, the police chief, and

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the city solicitor. Get the facts on the

21:44

record. Let the public see the

21:45

oversightes exists in Harrisburg. Demand

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access to body cam footage and incident

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reports. If they cannot be released

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publicly, then view them in executive

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session. You have that right and

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responsibility to see what happened

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under your watch. Place the incident on

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your legislative agenda until it's

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resolved. Make it an official item. That

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way, you're not just listening, you're

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acting immediately. Activate a citizens

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law enforcement advisory committee. This

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board was created to review misconduct

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cases like mine. Let this be the first

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case that it handles. Pass a formal

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resolution demanding transparency. Use

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the moral authority of the council to

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urge the mayor and police bureau to stop

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stonewalling and release their records.

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That's all I have.

22:30

Thank you.

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Is there anyone else to my right that

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would like to offer public

22:36

comment? Seeing and hearing no one,

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anyone in the middle

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section. Okay. Seeing and hearing no

22:43

one, anyone to my

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left? Seeing and hearing no one, we will

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move forward with our meeting agenda.

22:52

The next item of business is the

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approval of minutes for the legislative

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session that occurred on March 24th,

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2025. Council members, are there any

23:04

revisions to those meeting

23:06

minutes? Okay. Seeing and hearing none,

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the minutes stand

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approved. Reports of committee. The

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first report you will hear this evening,

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I will deliver on behalf of the

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administration committee on the work

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session of April 1st,

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2025. On Tuesday, April 1st, 2025, the

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administration committee met to discuss

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one resolution, resolution 18 of

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2025, a resolution appointing Miss

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Cheyenne Johnson to serve on the

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environmental advisory council.

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Miss Johnson was present to answer

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questions council members asked. Miss

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Johnson introduced herself. She is a

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graduate of the University of North

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Carolina at Charlotte where she earned a

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bachelor of arts degree in Spanish

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foreign language education. She also

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obtained a second bachelor of arts

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degree in Latin American studies. Miss

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Johnson earned a master of business

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administration from the Louisiana State

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University at Shreveport. She currently

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serves as a multi-sight property manager

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for Morgan

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Properties. Council members ask the

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following questions. What sparks your

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interest in serving as a member of the

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EAC? What is your passion for the

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environment? Do you anticipate any

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potential conflicts of interest? Miss

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Johnson, excuse me, shared about an

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instance where she took initiative to

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clean up the community. Miss Johnson is

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interested in learning more about

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environmental justice issues present

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within the city. She does not have any

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conflicts of interest. The environmental

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advisory council shall consist of seven

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volunteer members of which three are

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appointed by the mayor and four are

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appointed by city council. I just wanted

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to note for the record, Miss Johnson's

25:03

appointment shall be for a term

25:05

commencing on April 8th, 2025 and

25:09

expiring on April 7th,

25:14

2028. Um, I encourage my colleagues to

25:17

support resolution 18 of 2025 to ensure

25:20

the environmental advisory council has a

25:23

quorum to carry out their purpose. The

25:26

purpose of the environmental advisory

25:28

council is to oversee, discuss, and

25:30

disseminate information on environmental

25:33

issues in the city. I would like to

25:35

remind everyone for the meeting record

25:37

again that Harrisburg City Council has

25:40

made three appointments. Resolution 88

25:43

of 2024, which appointed Mrs. Katherine

25:46

Scott to serve as a member of the EAC.

25:49

Resolution 89 of 2023 which reappointed

25:53

Miss Rafika Muhammad to serve as a

25:56

member of the EAC and Resolution 91 of

26:00

2023 which appointed Miss Pamela Parsons

26:04

to serve as a member of the EAC.

26:07

If you viewed the work session on April

26:10

1st, you would remember that I mentioned

26:13

you won't see the resolution on this

26:16

week's agenda because um there's a

26:19

10-day grace period needed uh for Miss

26:22

Johnson's statement of financial

26:24

interest. So by our April 22nd

26:28

legislative session, we will be able to

26:31

um take action on the resolution. So

26:34

this concludes um the work of the

26:38

administration committee. The next

26:41

report you will hear will be delivered

26:43

by our budget and finance committee

26:45

chair, Vice President Green on the work

26:48

session of April 1st,

26:51

2025. Thank you, President Bowers.

26:53

During the work session of April 1st,

26:55

2025, the budget and finance committee

26:58

met to discuss resolution 19 of 2025, a

27:02

resolution authorizing the city of

27:04

Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a

27:06

professional service agreement with

27:08

Conrad Seagull Incorporated to continue

27:11

to provide actuarial services consisting

27:13

of other postemployment benefits or OPED

27:16

valuations as required by the govern

27:19

government accounting standards board

27:21

statement number 75. We had a thorough

27:23

presentation from the accounting

27:25

manager, Mr. Brian McCutchens. Uh there

27:27

were no questions from council and um I

27:30

asked my colleagues to support this

27:32

resolution. Thank you, Vice President

27:34

Green. As I mentioned during our

27:37

legislative caucus, there will be no

27:39

report uh from our public safety chair,

27:43

Councilman Jones, on the work session of

27:45

April 1st, 2025, as we will take action

27:49

on resolution 17 of

27:52

2025 shortly. There are no ordinances

27:55

for first reading, no ordinances for

27:58

amendment, and no ordinances for final

28:00

passage. We will move on to resolutions.

28:04

The first resolution for consideration

28:06

is resolution 17 of

28:09

2025. Mr. Parker, could you please read

28:11

it into the record?

28:13

Resolution 17 of

28:17

2025, a resolution approving the sale of

28:20

the fire bureau's CG grave pumper, VIN

28:23

number 1

28:26

F9

28:28

K28 T 2V

28:33

CST2067 to Highspire Burough.

28:37

Thank you. I will entertain a motion uh

28:40

to suspend the rules for discussion. So

28:43

move. Is there a second?

28:46

Thank you. I will defer to our public

28:49

safety committee chair, Councilman

28:51

Jones, to lead discussion. Thank you,

28:53

President B. I see Chief Innerline is

28:55

here. And that VIN number, we got to do

28:57

something about this. Sounds like uh

29:00

what's his name, son?

29:02

Uh the guy that's causing all the stuff

29:05

in

29:06

Washington. Tesla guy. What's his name?

29:10

Mus.

29:11

Yeah. Um, can you just uh introduce

29:15

yourself and just give a a brief

29:16

overview about uh resolution 17, please?

29:19

Sure. I'm going to keep it short and

29:21

sweet tonight because I can barely talk.

29:24

But, um, this resolution is, excuse me,

29:28

selling a firetruck that we've had, uh,

29:30

in our, uh, fleet since 1999. Uh, we

29:33

actually bought it used. Uh it was it's

29:36

a 1997. It was repossessed from a local

29:40

municipality. We took it um and have

29:42

used it uh since then. It is the oldest

29:44

rig in our fleet. And uh we were going

29:47

to trade it in on the two new fire

29:49

trucks that we've received. Uh however,

29:51

they were only offering $2,000 for it.

29:54

And we figured it was still running that

29:56

a smaller municipality could use it that

29:58

had less call volume. And I hated to see

30:00

a a fire truck like that um for $2,000

30:03

go to the scrapyard. So, we started

30:05

looking for somebody that was in need

30:08

and uh it came out that Highspire um was

30:10

in desperate need. They had their

30:12

firetruck, their only firetruck was

30:13

down. So, we loaned it to them. They

30:15

fell in love with it and we'd like to

30:16

sell it to them for $2,000 which was

30:19

what was offered uh in the trade in four

30:21

years ago.

30:23

All right. Thank you. Um I don't really

30:26

have any questions. is pretty pretty

30:28

much clearcut to me, but I'll open up

30:30

the floor for my colleagues and see if

30:32

they have any questions. And I'll start

30:34

to my immediate right with Councilman

30:36

Rodriguez. Uh, thank you, Chief, for

30:38

being here. Always a pleasure to see

30:39

you. Um, thank you, Chair Jones. No

30:41

questions for me. Councilwoman Ross.

30:45

Thank you, Councilman Jones. Thank you

30:46

for being here today. Director

30:48

Enderline, I don't have any questions. I

30:50

hope you feel better. My apologies for

30:52

not being here April 1st. I would have

30:53

felt a lot better.

30:55

Pres president Bowers, I don't have any

30:58

questions. Feel better soon. Vice

31:01

President Green, I don't have any

31:02

questions. I hope you get better.

31:04

Councilwoman Davis, I hope you get

31:06

better also. Thank you. No questions.

31:09

Thank you. All right.

31:13

Thank you. Thank you. I will entertain a

31:15

motion to resume our legislative

31:17

session. So move. Is there a second?

31:20

Second. Thank you. Before us we have

31:22

resolution 17 of

31:24

2025. Mr. Parker, could you please read

31:27

it one more

31:29

time?

31:31

Surely. A resolution I'm sorry, a

31:33

resolution 17 of

31:36

2025. A resolution approving the sale of

31:39

the fire bureau's Crave pumper. VIN

31:43

number 1 F9 E

31:46

K28 T2 V CS

31:52

T2067 to Highspire Burrow.

31:56

Thank you. Council members, are there

31:58

any uh final questions, comments, or

32:01

concerns related to resolution 17 of

32:06

2025? Seeing in hearing none, Mr.

32:08

Parker, could you please call the vote?

32:11

Miss Davis,

32:13

yes.

32:14

Miss Green, yes. Mr. Jones, yay. Ms.

32:19

RWS, yes. Mr. Rodriguez, yes. Ms.

32:24

Bowers, yes. Resolution 17 of

32:29

2025 passes unanimously with a vote of

32:32

six yays to zero nazs, including the

32:36

excused absence of Councilwoman Daniels.

32:40

Thank you. Next, we have resolution 19

32:43

of 2025. Mr. Parker, could you please

32:46

read it into the record?

32:49

Resolution 19 of

32:51

2025, a resolution authorizing the city

32:54

of Harrisburg to negotiate and enter

32:57

into a professional services agreement

32:59

with Conrad Seagull Incorporated to

33:02

continue to provide actuarial services

33:05

consisting of other postemployment

33:08

benefits.

33:10

OP valuations as required by the

33:14

government accounting standards board

33:16

statement number 75.

33:19

Thank you. Council members, are there

33:21

any final questions, comments, or

33:23

concerns related to resolution 19 of

33:28

2025? Seeing and hearing none, Mr.

33:30

Parker, could you please call the vote?

33:35

Davis. Miss Davis. Yes.

33:40

Miss Green, yes. Mr. Jones, yay. Ms.

33:45

RWS,

33:46

yes. Mr. Rodriguez, yes. Ms. Bowers,

33:51

yes. Resolution 19 of 2025 also passes

33:55

unanimously with a vote of six yays to

33:58

zero nays, including the excused absence

34:00

of Councilwoman Daniels.

34:03

Thank you. Next we have resolution 21 of

34:07

2025. Mr. Parker, could you please read

34:09

it into the record?

34:12

Resolution 21 of

34:15

2025. A resolution approving the

34:18

preliminary/final lot consolidation and

34:21

land development plan to construct a new

34:23

city of Harrisburg parks maintenance

34:25

facility on site. The existing nearby

34:29

facility at 9001 North 12th Street will

34:33

be demolished as part of a larger

34:35

project

34:36

redeveloping SRTA's operations and

34:39

maintenance facility at

34:42

901 North Cameron Street, which will

34:46

include the vacation of public rights of

34:48

way and consolidation of lots in the

34:51

block to the south and associated site

34:54

and access improvements. Thank you.

34:57

Resolution 21 of 2025 will move to the

35:01

Community and Economic Development

35:03

Committee. Resolution 22 of 2025. Mr.

35:07

Parker, could you please read it into

35:09

the record? Resolution 22 of

35:13

2025, a resolution appointing Sheay

35:16

Zwerver to serve on the board of the

35:19

directors of Capital Region Water, a

35:21

municipal authority. Thank you.

35:24

Resolution 22 of 2025 will move to the

35:28

administration committee. Resolution 23

35:32

of

35:33

2025. Mr. Parker, could you please read

35:35

it into the record? Resolution 23 of

35:40

2025. A resolution appointing Pierre O.

35:44

McCoy to serve on the board of directors

35:47

of Capital Region Water, a municipal

35:49

authority. Thank you. Resolution 23 of

35:54

2025 will move to the administration

35:56

committee. Our final resolution uh this

35:59

evening is resolution 24 of 2025. Mr.

36:04

Parker, could you please read it into

36:06

the record? Resolution 24 of

36:09

2025, a resolution authorizing the city

36:12

of Harrisburg to negotiate and enter

36:14

into a professional services agreement

36:17

with Urban Engineers Incorporated for

36:20

the purpose of providing construction

36:23

inspection and construction management

36:25

services on an asneeded basis. Thank

36:30

you. Resolution 24 of 2025 will move to

36:34

the public works

36:35

committee. Is there any old business?

36:38

Council members.

36:39

Yes, President Bar. I have a question

36:42

for legal.

36:44

Mr. Grover on uh resolution 20. Um where

36:48

are we with that map? Uh on Friday, the

36:52

lobby did secure a list of all the

36:54

licences from LCB in the city. It's a

36:57

bit cumbersome the way they do it

36:58

because they include all the expired

37:00

ones and suspended ones. So, we're

37:02

having to pull through it. It's just on

37:04

a large spreadsheet that we're able to

37:05

get from them. So, once we have a

37:08

document that clearly establishes the

37:10

open locations, that would come back to

37:12

you guys. When you say open locations,

37:14

the one active liquor licenses, right?

37:16

So, so, so there's but their list is

37:18

everything right now. What they were

37:20

able to give us was everything. Okay.

37:21

So, for reasons I I don't know the

37:23

answer. The reason why. So where does

37:25

that leave these uh businesses right now

37:28

unprotected?

37:30

Only I think only in theory unprotected.

37:32

Um you know LCB that you guys have an

37:36

active process going on in a public

37:38

setting to to secure this that we've

37:41

always had a fairly good working

37:42

relationship with them. I think they're

37:44

not looking for more work if that makes

37:46

any sense as as as things go. Um I've

37:48

heard from no one any have any active

37:51

issues with them this year. Um, we were

37:53

requested again by uh the downtown

37:55

owners to to take a look at this and

37:57

move it forward. It's moving forward.

37:59

Um, and I think as long as we're

38:00

continuing the process, I think we're

38:02

good and our office will step in if

38:04

there's an issue that comes up. Okay.

38:06

Yeah. Because we got I think um Sawyers

38:09

just get open and I think they're

38:11

included in this in this space that

38:12

their owner is the one who who was one

38:14

of the movers to get this done. Um it's

38:16

really just trying to draw the map in a

38:17

way that satisfies LCB and the owners.

38:20

Frankly, they were they were unhappy LCB

38:22

with the wiggly map all over the place.

38:25

And so, we're just trying to come up

38:26

with a footprint, but it's really up to

38:27

council when we give it the information.

38:28

Where do you want the line? And uh so,

38:31

again, my my question uh when we were

38:33

having that session was more of the map

38:36

that was previously in place that went

38:38

all the way up to Harris Street, which

38:40

which they weren't thrilled with at LCB,

38:42

right? Because it was a wiggly that

38:44

their question was, could you make it

38:46

easier for us to follow? because that

38:48

was one of their questions and I think

38:49

that fried part of why we got to the

38:51

square that we have right now. I think

38:53

it's just going to be a bigger rectangle

38:54

is where we're going. Okay. But where

38:56

those boundaries are the neighbors need

38:59

to know you're considering it, right?

39:02

Who who have a thing there. They may not

39:03

want uh the noise ordinance for the city

39:05

which is more liberal to be in their

39:08

neighborhood, right? That I mean that's

39:09

really what this why you have a public

39:10

hearing about it. Um, so you know that's

39:13

where we have to figure out the council

39:15

with council's comfort the boundaries

39:16

based on licences. I think it's easy to

39:18

take it back to where it

39:20

was and lengthwise but but again there's

39:23

places that have opened that are that

39:24

weren't there before. The question is

39:26

how big how big of a place and once we

39:28

put it there I think we have to

39:29

advertise and tell the neighbors again

39:32

that you know this is a this is being

39:33

considered timeline. Um well for for

39:36

your next session we should have

39:37

something for you. Okay. Okay. You know,

39:38

it'd be nice to sit down with you before

39:39

that, you know, and talk about the

39:41

lines. Okay. Um, you know, because, you

39:43

know, it's helpful to have input. You

39:45

know, right now we have a we have a

39:47

spreadsheet with with lots of stuff on

39:49

it from LCB. All right. Thank you. Sure.

39:53

Thank you. Is there any other old

39:55

business, Council

39:57

members? Okay. Seeing and hearing none,

40:00

new business. Councilman Rodriguez.

40:02

Thank you, Madam President. Just wanted

40:04

to send out a reminder that it's

40:05

springtime, which means it is now

40:07

hotspot Saturday's time. Uh the first

40:09

cleanup will be April 19th. We'll be

40:12

taking care of the Ethel Alley location.

40:14

The meetup will be on 17th and Market

40:16

Street right here in Harrisburg, PA on

40:18

Allison Hill. Meetup time is 10:00 a.m.

40:20

and we will clean up till about 12:00

40:22

p.m. Gloves, uh grabbers, and other

40:25

considerations will be there. So, hope

40:27

to see you there. If you're considering

40:28

joining the cleanup, you can either call

40:30

the clerk's office or email me directly

40:32

at rdriguez

40:34

harrisburgpa.gov. Thank

40:36

you. Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez.

40:39

Any other new

40:41

business? Okay, seeing and hearing none,

40:44

the time is 6:38 p.m. I will entertain a

40:47

motion to adjurnn. So moved. Is there a

40:50

second? Second. Thank you. We stand

40:52

adjourned.

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