6:50
one. We're going to take a few minutes
6:52
to review our meeting agenda during our
6:56
legislative caucus and then I will call
7:01
order. So, we'll begin. I will call the
7:03
meeting to order immediately following
7:05
this legislative caucus. Mr. Trudale
7:08
will call the role. The invocation this
7:11
evening will be led by Councilwoman
7:13
Ross, followed by the pledge of
7:15
allegiance, which will be led by
7:17
Councilman Rodriguez. We do not have any
7:19
communications this evening. We will
7:22
then open the floor for courtesy of the
7:24
floor, followed by the approval of
7:26
minutes for the legislative session that
7:28
occurred on April 8th, 2025.
7:32
We will then move to reports of
7:35
committees. The first report will be
7:37
delivered by our community and economic
7:40
development committee chair,
7:42
Councilwoman Daniels, on the work
7:47
2025. Uh the next report I will deliver
7:51
on behalf of our public safety committee
7:54
chair, Councilman Jones, on the work
7:57
session of April 15, 2025.
8:00
And the final committee report this
8:02
evening will be delivered by our public
8:05
works committee chair, Councilman
8:07
Rodriguez, on the work session of April
8:12
2025. We do not have any ordinances for
8:15
first reading, ordinances for amendment,
8:18
or ordinances for final passage. We will
8:21
then move to resolutions.
8:23
The first resolution for consideration
8:25
this evening is resolution 18 of 2025
8:31
upon. Resolution 20 of
8:35
2025 which we will suspend the rules for
8:38
discussion and eventually vote
8:41
upon resolution 21 of 2025. We will vote
8:46
upon resolution 24 of 2025. We will vote
8:51
upon resolution 25 of 2025 will move to
8:56
the public safety committee. Resolution
8:59
26 of 2025 will move to the public
9:02
safety committee. And the final
9:04
resolution is resolution 27 of
9:08
2025. It will move to the parks,
9:11
recreation, and enrichment committee. Is
9:14
there any old business for discussion,
9:17
members? Okay. Seeing and hearing none,
9:22
business? Okay, seeing hearing none,
9:26
adjourn. So, the time is 6:06 p.m. I
9:30
would like to call our legislative
9:34
Mr. Trudeale, could you please call the
9:53
present. Mr. Rodriguez, present. Miss
9:57
Bowers, present. I would like to note
10:00
for the meeting record, Councilman Jones
10:02
is excused this evening. The invocation
10:05
will be led by Councilwoman Ross. Thank
10:08
you, President Bowers, and good evening,
10:09
everyone. And I would just like to take
10:11
a moment of silence for um over the past
10:15
week um lives that were lost due to gun
10:20
um fires that have happened within our
10:24
community and just a moment of silence
10:27
for residents in our community that are
10:29
struggling um for multiple reasons. Um I
10:33
want us to keep them in our prayers and
10:35
in our thoughts. So let's please take a
10:43
Thank you, Councilwoman Ross. The pledge
10:45
of allegiance will be led by Councilman
10:47
Rodriguez. Oh, please rise for the
10:54
I pledge allegiance to the
10:56
flag of America and to the stands
11:04
nationy andice for all.
11:11
Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez. We do
11:13
not have any communications this
11:15
evening, so we will move forward with
11:17
our meeting agenda. We will move to
11:20
courtesy of the floor. Just a few
11:22
housekeeping notes before we begin.
11:24
Please state your name and your address
11:26
for the meeting record. If you don't
11:28
feel comfortable sharing your address,
11:30
please share the vicinity in which you
11:32
live within the city. You will have four
11:35
minutes to share your comments. Mr.
11:37
Trudale will serve as our timekeeper. I
11:41
will begin to my right. Is there anyone
11:42
that would like to offer public
11:56
here? There we go. The tall guy. Okay.
11:59
Uh Brandon Bum, uh 3000 block of uh
12:02
North Third Street. I know I'm here to
12:04
complain about things for a lot of
12:05
reasons, but um this time And I sent you
12:07
all an email. You probably saw it. I'm
12:09
going to handle my own personal
12:11
situation. But I noticed they're doing a
12:13
lot of these. And if the city police are
12:15
now in the habit of What happened was,
12:18
as it turns out, we're getting new
12:20
license plates. Yesterday they were
12:21
issued. We're supposed to get them in 5
12:23
to 10 days. Yesterday I was pulled over
12:25
and my license plates were taken. The
12:27
citation says because like we were
12:29
deceased, which I'm not. I'm very much
12:32
alive. However, I was left without a
12:34
license plate on a vehicle all day
12:36
today. I have the privilege to take off
12:39
work to be able to go handle this sort
12:40
of thing to get a lawyer if I have to to
12:43
fight this. But a lot of people don't.
12:45
So, I will handle my thing. I'm going to
12:46
talk to like Lamont. I'm going to talk
12:47
to the officer. We're get it worked out.
12:48
But I would ask that um Lamont or and
12:51
the rest of you maybe like look into
12:52
this if this is something they've done
12:54
throughout the city. Maybe you dismiss
12:55
these tickets because this is the reason
12:57
law enforcement and the community don't
12:59
have a good relation because this
13:00
predatory like like tricky stuff doesn't
13:04
make people feel people feel comfortable
13:05
approaching the police. So, I'm not up
13:08
here to ask that mine be dismissed. I'll
13:10
work that out. But if 20 of these were
13:12
given out, maybe we don't make those
13:14
people who had to get to work, who had
13:16
to take a taxi, who don't have my level
13:18
of privilege, maybe they don't have to
13:20
pay the fine that they're going to get
13:21
because I haven't gotten it yet. I'm not
13:22
sure how much it is, but I'm not paying
13:24
it. So, that's all I ask. Uh we can we
13:27
can talk about anything afterwards. I
13:28
don't think they have more time. But
13:30
yeah, they pulled over at least five
13:32
people and I'm like, "My neighbors don't
13:33
mean this BS." Like, these are
13:34
hardworking people. It was midnight. I
13:36
can't Most people can't call off at
13:38
midnight for the next day. Like, and
13:40
none of us were deceased. I promise
13:42
everyone was alive. He was driving.
13:47
Thank you. Is there anyone else to my
13:49
right that would like to offer public
13:54
Hold on. I'll get to you.
13:59
Um, hello. My name is Toby Soha. Um,
14:04
uh, I I live in the homeless encampment
14:07
near Pendod. So, I guess I that's the
14:09
Shy Poke area, I guess.
14:14
Um, so my friend, uh, he didn't want me
14:20
to say his name, but his
14:23
$2,000 ebike was stolen around a week
14:26
ago in front of the front of the
14:29
courthouse, um, the downtown
14:33
Um, and from what he has told me, the
14:37
police has have not did anything at all.
14:41
um they've spoken with him and nothing
14:44
has come from it. Um I've heard a lot of
14:47
talk about a something like a
14:51
citywide camera system that's supposed
14:54
to be implemented sometime. I don't
14:59
Um my my question to the council
15:03
is if the police are not looking at the
15:08
cameras that are already in the
15:11
city, why would we either spend the
15:15
money or the resources to get more
15:18
cameras that who knows if they'll even
15:21
look at those? Um and that's my comment.
15:27
Thank you. Is there anyone else to my
15:30
right that would like to offer public
15:34
comment? Okay. Seeing and hearing no
15:37
one, anyone in the middle section.
15:43
Go ahead. That's you. Okay. My name is
15:48
Goldstein and Madame President and
15:51
members of council, I appreciate you
15:55
I served on city council way before all
15:58
of you were probably born
16:01
u under Mayor Daic. A lot of people
16:04
don't remember there was a mayor before
16:07
Reid and uh I served as city solicitor.
16:12
I've lived in the city all my life. I
16:15
was born at 29 2617 North 2nd Street and
16:19
I've only gone two and a half blocks in
16:21
my life. I live at 2900 Parkside Lane in
16:26
Harrisburg, right along the Italian
16:28
Lake. The side of my house faces
16:30
Division Street. And the reason I'm here
16:33
tonight is number one to say to council
16:36
and the city, you guys have done a great
16:38
job on Second Street. I was born on
16:42
Second Street when it was two ways and
16:45
they didn't need roundabouts back then,
16:48
uh it was great. But and what you've
16:51
done with the roundabouts is great for
16:53
Second Street. But what has happened is
16:56
people have avoided Second Street who
16:59
don't live there or don't have reason to
17:01
go. So they go up to sixth or seventh
17:04
street, come down division street or
17:07
come down to sixth or seventh division.
17:10
When they hit sixth and division, it's a
17:14
straightaway. It's a huge street and
17:19
I am constantly out there. I have a dog
17:22
and I'm walking. Kids coming from the
17:24
Cam Curtain Academy. Can't get across. I
17:27
have to help them. That's fine. I don't
17:29
want anybody to get killed. And people
17:33
now that the weather's nice are going
17:35
into the lake. People from the church.
17:38
People all weekend on Easter were trying
17:40
to cross the street. You got to do
17:44
about division street. If you just came
17:48
up there and saw how people race, I
17:51
don't I have no great against
17:53
motorcycles, but they come they know
17:55
that's the racetrack and someone is
17:58
going to get hurt badly. There's always
18:00
fender bumpers, but they're coming so
18:03
fast that at night it's not well lit.
18:05
There's just a few things you have to
18:07
do. All I ask city council is and all of
18:10
you to see if you could get something
18:12
done. I've been trying to talk to people
18:15
for years now. And ever since Second
18:17
Street was done, done great. Division
18:24
racetrack. Just come there, try and
18:26
cross the street. There's no crosswalks.
18:29
There's nothing. There's no lights.
18:31
Nothing. So, I ask for your help and I
18:35
thank you for listening. And I hope that
18:37
by me coming tonight, some of you or one
18:42
might put this together and see if you
18:45
can get things moving. I heard that
18:47
there was supposed to be a meeting May
18:49
7th. Uh I've heard nothing about that.
18:56
frustrating, not for me, but for these
18:59
kids who come down, they live on Green
19:00
Street apartments. they can't get across
19:02
the street and they take their life in
19:05
their hands and I don't want anybody to
19:08
get hurt. So only and I just think it's
19:11
the right thing to do. There's a lot of
19:13
people living along that area and I
19:16
thank you for taking the time to listen.
19:22
Is there anyone else in the middle
19:24
section that would like to offer public
19:39
Good evening, Madame President and
19:41
council. My name is Lisa Harden. I live
19:43
in Uptown area off of
19:46
U Jefferson and Gary in that area.
19:50
Council member Rodriguez, thank you for
19:52
cleaning up that you and L. But I'm here
19:55
today because I am so sick and tired of
19:58
the violence from these kids. The
20:01
gunplay. I'm I'm fearful for my life. I
20:05
called the police two or three times.
20:07
Lamont told me yesterday. Now I got to
20:10
come down here. And like I know these
20:12
children that this thing that just
20:14
happened. I'm sick of it. I don't I feel
20:17
like the police are not doing enough. I
20:18
know they have a hard job to do. I just
20:21
feel like maybe they're overwork.
20:25
But I'm saying my kids is like, "Stop
20:27
being a car." No, I'm unsafe in my own
20:30
home and I should not I should high the
20:33
rent is I shouldn't have to feel like
20:34
that and worried about if these kids is
20:37
coming back now with guns and all that.
20:39
Something has got to be done. Our mayor
20:42
said before maybe we need to bring in a
20:45
SWAT or we got to all you see is the
20:48
fire at the governor's mansion
20:50
Pennsylvania State Police here. Well,
20:52
they need to be doing something about
20:53
these kids and these gangs and all that,
20:55
too. It's It's just like out of control.
20:57
The city's out of control, Crystal. We
20:59
was born and raised here. I love I love
21:02
being I left here, lived in Florida for
21:04
13 years. I came back. This is not our
21:06
city. And it's sad. And I'm telling
21:09
y'all, I'm scared for me and my
21:11
children's life. And nobody should
21:14
really have to live like that. And I
21:16
just don't know what to do, who to turn
21:19
to, what what should we do? What what
21:24
clue? We don't have a
21:27
clue. And neither do our
21:33
No, I would love to talk to you after
21:35
the meeting. I just couldn't speak to
21:36
you up there, Miss Lisa. It wasn't that
21:38
I didn't have a suggestion. Okay.
21:42
Yes. You're welcome.
21:44
We do have suggestions, but we can't
21:46
respond right now. Um, is there anyone
21:49
else in the middle section that would
21:51
like to offer public comment?
21:54
Okay, seeing and hearing no one, anyone
22:06
left. Good evening. My name is Melanie
22:08
Cook and this must be old home evening
22:11
for the Riverside community. I live in
22:13
the 3000 block of North Third and while
22:16
I didn't come to comment on um what may
22:19
be a lack of police response, I do want
22:21
to say something about that now. Um
22:23
there was a situation where there was a
22:26
dog um pitbull, very friendly pitbull
22:29
that had gotten loose. Um a neighbor had
22:32
coraled the dog. uh calls were made to
22:34
the non-emergency number over the course
22:37
of two and a half hours. There was
22:38
virtually no response. No one ever came
22:41
because I'm familiar with the dogs. I
22:43
interjected uh checked the collar,
22:46
traced the dog to an address, drove to
22:48
the address myself, uh spoke to someone
22:51
at the property and they came and got
22:53
the dog. uh whatever the situation is
22:56
with the non-emergency
22:58
uh police line, the city of Harrisburg
23:00
may or may not be getting the attention
23:02
that it deserves from those individuals
23:04
because over the course of two and a
23:06
half hours, according to the neighbor,
23:08
the recommendation they were given is
23:10
just let the dog loose. Now, who wants a
23:13
full-grown pit bull running through the
23:14
neighborhood? Even a friendly one, it
23:16
would have put the dog in danger and it
23:18
would have put other people in danger.
23:20
So, something has to be done about that.
23:23
With respect to Division Street, those
23:25
of you who attended the Second Street
23:28
public meetings that were very well
23:30
orchestrated years ago, very well
23:32
attended, know that comments were made
23:35
and comments. I can speak to what I said
23:37
about it was going to divert traffic
23:39
from Second Street and send it directly
23:41
up Sixth Street and directly up Seventh.
23:43
And it is true. They hit those blocks,
23:46
come down Division flying. But it's not
23:49
just Division Street. They come up Third
23:51
Street flying with virtually no
23:54
attention to the speed limit. Graham
23:56
Street, you might as well pull the stop
23:58
signs because there are vehicles on a
24:01
daily basis that come off of six and
24:03
drive straight up Graham Street. Don't
24:06
stop at a single stop sign, hit third,
24:13
Police being overworked may or may not
24:16
be a situation, but the citizens of this
24:18
town deserve more of a response than
24:21
what we're getting. If there's an
24:23
emergency, police turn out and six,
24:26
seven, eight officers arrive. And that
24:28
is what they should do in support of
24:30
each other. But when you call and get no
24:32
response from things that people
24:34
apparently don't seem to believe or an
24:36
emergency, that's problematic. when you
24:39
live in a city where or any city, one of
24:42
the things you say take care of the
24:43
small things and then society will start
24:46
to um eliminate the larger things. I
24:50
concur. We have young people in this
24:53
city who are dying in the streets for no
24:56
reason. And one of the biggest reasons
25:00
is guns. Why are there so many weapons
25:04
getting in the hands of young men of
25:06
color in the city of Harrisburg? That is
25:08
the first and primary issue that needs
25:11
to be addressed. This is not
25:13
complicated. They wouldn't be shooting
25:15
each other in the streets if they didn't
25:17
have access to the weapons. There's not
25:19
one single gun store in the city of
25:21
Harrisburg. But yet, virtually every kid
25:24
in this city has a weapon or has access
25:27
to a weapon. There has to be better
25:29
communication. And the primary reason I
25:32
came today was one because I understood
25:34
that the uh Dr. Henry, the
25:37
superintendent of the schools was
25:38
supposed to be giving his quarterly
25:40
report. That needs to happen on a
25:42
monthly basis. The city and the school
25:44
district need to communicate better and
25:46
coordinate better. And the primary
25:48
reason I came was to discuss the parks
25:51
initiative. Those of you who took part
25:56
uh 7th and Rner, Gorgus Reservoir, and
25:59
Wilson were supposed to be getting major
26:01
upgrades. There was extensive public
26:04
comment and nothing has happened. If we
26:06
want to know how to keep these kids off
26:08
the street, give them something to do.
26:10
Invest these dollars that the city has.
26:17
Thank you. Is there Oh, go ahead, Miss
26:21
Cook. Um Miss Cook, after the meeting, I
26:24
would love to speak with you because um
26:25
we're on the same accord and I can give
26:27
you the updates that I have from the
26:38
I that is something I would like to
26:40
speak to you about because I think that
26:42
there should be. So yes, thank you. If
26:45
you don't mind both saying it's probably
26:47
about on the same topic. Thank you. I
26:57
Any additional comment to my
27:09
left. That's a hard act to follow. Um, I
27:13
wanted to let him know
27:15
uh the guy who had the friend whose bike
27:18
was stolen. you might want to reach out
27:20
to Dwayne Bender, public safety. He uh
27:24
controls the surveillance for the
27:30
Um keep the theme with the
27:33
police. Good evening, members of city
27:35
council and fellow citizens of
27:37
Harrisburg. My name is Robert Williams.
27:39
I'm a resident of Capitol Heights era of
27:42
Harrisburg. I stand before you today as
27:45
a conserved resident of our city. I come
27:47
with an urgent message about the state
27:49
of our police department and critical
27:51
issues that demand our collective
27:55
action. The data tells a troubling story
27:59
about our Harrisburg Police Department.
28:02
While black residents constitute 47% of
28:05
our city's population, black officers
28:08
make up only 11% of our police force.
28:12
This 36 percentage point gap isn't just
28:15
a statistic. It represents a fundamental
28:18
disconnect between our police and the
28:20
community it serves. Despite lowering
28:22
entries of barrier, I mean barriers of
28:24
entry, sponsored police academy
28:26
training, and removing residency
28:28
requirements, our department continues
28:30
to struggle with recruiting minority
28:32
officers. This indicates the problem
28:34
runs deeper than just procedural
28:36
barriers. It points to a crisis of trust
28:38
and perception that requires targeted
28:41
intentional solutions. More alarming are
28:44
the documented cases of alleged
28:46
misconduct by specific officers that
28:49
have gone insufficiently addressed. I
28:52
draw your attention to two officers in
28:55
particular. Officer Mark How I has been
28:58
named as a defendant in at least three
29:00
federal civil lawsuits alleging
29:03
excessive force between 2019 and 2025.
29:07
The most recent Watkins versus How stems
29:10
from a 2023 incident where officer Howal
29:13
allegedly used chemical spray without
29:15
sufficient cause, participated in
29:18
tackling the plaintiff, resulted in a
29:21
broken tooth, was present when threats
29:23
were alleged, and made during the
29:25
arrest. Additionally, officer Howal was
29:27
captured on video during the St.
29:29
Patrick's Day weekend pushing an
29:31
individual near moving traffic. This
29:33
occurred despite his prior offduty DUI
29:39
2019. Corporal Estabbon Restrepo is a
29:43
codefendant in Watkins lawsuit where he
29:46
allegedly dragged the plaintiff by his
29:48
dreadlocks during the same 2023 arrest.
29:51
While Corporal Restreo has received
29:54
departmental awards for bravery, the
29:57
serious nature of these allegations
29:59
cannot be dismissed. What's most
30:01
troubling is not just these incident
30:04
themselves, but what they reveal about
30:07
our department's leadership and
30:08
accountability systems. When officers
30:11
with documented patterns of concerning
30:13
behavior remain active duty without
30:16
transparent discipline, disciplinary
30:18
action, it signals a breakdown in
30:20
oversight and accountability. The
30:22
persistence of these issues point
30:24
directly to the failures of leadership.
30:26
Inadequate supervision that fails to
30:28
correct problematic officer conduct
30:30
before it escalates. Ineffective early
30:33
intervention intervention systems that
30:35
don't identify patterns of concerning
30:38
behavior. OPEC dis disciplinary
30:41
processes that undermine public
30:43
confidence. Riskmanagement failures that
30:46
expose our city to significant
30:48
liability. While the police commissioner
30:50
Thomas Carter, a black man with deep
30:52
roots in our city community and leads
30:55
the department, his representation at
30:57
the top has not translated into
30:58
departmental transformation. The lack of
31:01
transparency about the racial
31:02
composition of command staff further
31:04
obscures the four the full picture of
31:07
leadership diversity. This issue creates
31:09
profound consequences for our city.
31:12
Eroded public trust particularly in the
31:14
black and minority communities. Decrease
31:16
cooperation from citizens who fear
31:18
rather than trust the police. Increase
31:19
city liability from lawsuits that drain
31:22
our resources. Officer recruitment
31:24
challenges that perpetuate the cycle of
31:26
under representation. Compromise public
31:28
safety when residents are reluctant to
31:30
call. I call on his council to make to
31:32
take immediate concrete action. Demand
31:34
complete compare complete transparency
31:37
and officer complaints investigation
31:39
disciplinary outcomes for officer how
31:42
restreo and other officers with multiple
31:44
complaints. I know my time's up. I'mma
31:46
end it. That was almost done. Thank you,
31:47
Mr. Williams. Thank you. Is there anyone
31:51
else that would like to offer public
31:53
comment? I don't want to miss anyone.
31:56
Okay. Seeing and hearing none, we will
31:58
move forward with our meeting agenda.
32:01
Next, we have the approval of minutes
32:03
for the legislative session that
32:05
occurred on April 8th, 2025. Council
32:09
members, are there any revisions to
32:11
those meeting minutes?
32:14
Okay, seeing and hearing none, the
32:15
minutes stand approved. We will now move
32:18
to reports of committees. The first
32:21
report you will hear this evening will
32:23
be shared by our community and economic
32:26
development committee chair,
32:28
Councilwoman Daniels, on the work
32:30
session of April 15, 2025.
32:37
Thank you. Um on that date we the
32:40
community and economic development uh
32:43
committee reviewed resolution 21 hyphen
32:48
um which is a resolution approving a
32:50
preliminary final lot
32:55
Um this was a uh I'll just read the the
32:59
resolution. uh consolidation and land
33:02
development plan to construct a new city
33:05
of Harrisburg parks maintenance facility
33:06
on site. The existing nearby facility at
33:09
901 North 12th Street will be demolished
33:11
as part of a larger project redeveloping
33:13
SRTA's operations and maintenance
33:15
facility at 901 North Cameron Street
33:17
which will include the vacation of
33:18
public rights of way and consol
33:20
consolidation of lots in the block to
33:22
the south associated and associated site
33:25
and access improvements. Um and
33:27
basically this is um one of many
33:30
resolutions to come to um take into
33:34
account in constructions and
33:36
improvements related to both um the her
33:39
Harrisburg parks maintenance facility as
33:41
well as SRT's operations and maintenance
33:49
um uh project uh the the land
33:57
um currently belongs
34:02
SRTA and on that land
34:07
um the fac the parks facility will be
34:13
um prior to demolish lishing the
34:15
existing one which is on this on city's
34:21
the because this is just a small piece
34:26
um project. Um there are many kind of
34:32
uh missing elements to the the complete
34:36
step of what will ultim of how we will
34:39
end up at the final project. A major
34:41
concern to most council members was the
34:43
lack of um clarity on liability and
34:47
indemnity and um and who's responsible
34:50
for um issues as they present themselves
34:54
since most uh there haven't been anyus
34:58
or there aren't haven't been formal
34:59
agreements at this point. Um so um
35:02
that's basically it and I ask council
35:04
members to vote um as they wish on this
35:08
particular resolution and that is it for
35:10
my committee. Thank you. Thank
35:14
you. Uh next our agenda outlines the
35:17
report from the public safety committee
35:19
chair Councilman Jones on the work
35:21
session of April 15, 2025. I will
35:25
deliver a brief report. Um, in
35:28
Councilman Jones's absence, on Tuesday,
35:32
April 15, 2025, the public safety
35:35
committee met to discuss one resolution,
35:40
2025, a resolution authorizing and
35:43
approving the submission of a petition
35:45
to the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board
35:48
for an exemption of a specific downtown
35:51
area of the city of Harrisburg from the
35:54
board's regulations regarding amplified
35:56
music being heard off the licensed
35:59
premises in favor of enforcing the
36:03
city's adopted noise control and
36:05
abatement ordinance. The resolution was
36:08
discussed during two work sessions, one
36:10
held on Tuesday, April 1st, 2025, and
36:14
the second one held on Tuesday, April
36:17
15, 2025. Councilman Jones uh during
36:21
both of those work sessions discussed
36:23
offering an amendment to revert back to
36:26
a previous map outlined in resolution 85
36:31
2017. Council members asked the
36:34
following questions. Impact on
36:36
businesses and boundaries of the
36:38
previous map. I encourage my colleagues
36:42
to support the amended version of
36:44
resolution 20 of 2025 to ensure our
36:48
business community can continue to
36:51
thrive. This concludes the report of the
36:54
public safety committee. The final
36:56
committee report you will hear this
36:58
evening will be delivered by our public
37:01
works committee chair, Councilman
37:03
Rodriguez, on the work session of April
37:08
Thank you, Madam President. On Tuesday,
37:10
April 15, 2025, the public works
37:13
committee convened to discuss resolution
37:16
24-2025. The resolution authorizes the
37:19
city of Harrisburg to negotiate and
37:21
enter into a professional service
37:22
agreement with Urban Engineers, Inc. for
37:25
the purpose of providing construction
37:26
inspection and construction management
37:28
services on an asne basis. Representing
37:31
the administration was city engineer
37:33
Joel Ciders, who spoke to the
37:35
qualifications and benefits of engaging
37:37
urban engineers. Also present was Mr.
37:40
Brian bead representing Urgent Engineers
37:42
Incorporated. Our engineer highlighted
37:44
the increasing numbers of infrastructure
37:46
projects underway across various city
37:48
corridors. He emphasized the urgent need
37:52
support noting the city is currently
37:54
understaffed and managing a significant
37:56
volume of lurer related projects. He was
37:59
quoted as saying I do not want to slow
38:01
down. reflecting his commitment to
38:03
maintaining project momentum. During the
38:05
RFP process, 40 firms requested
38:08
documentation and the city ultimately
38:10
received two formal applications. Mr.
38:12
Bead spoke to the urban engineers
38:14
extensive experience and strong
38:16
professional network. He emphasized
38:18
their long-lasting relationship with the
38:19
city of Harrisburg, referencing their
38:21
involvement in the multimodal project
38:23
since 2017. Mr. bead also addressed
38:26
minority and womenowned business
38:28
enterprises MBE WBE participation
38:31
stating that the urban engineers
38:32
partners with two MBE firms, three
38:35
consulting firms and one WBE firm JBC
38:38
Associates. He acknowledged that some
38:40
agreements require up to 20% MBEW
38:43
participation and affirmed that there
38:45
are no conflicts of interest associated
38:47
with the engagement. I strongly
38:49
encourage my colleagues on council to
38:51
support resolution 24 of 2025. And this
38:54
concludes the business of the public
38:55
works committee from the work session
38:57
held on April 15 of 2025. Thank you,
39:00
Madam President. Thank you. Uh we do not
39:03
have any ordinances for first reading,
39:05
ordinances for amendment or ordinances
39:07
for final passage. So we will move
39:10
forward with resolutions. The first
39:12
resolution for consideration this
39:14
evening is resolution 18 of 2025. Mr.
39:18
Trudale, could you please read it into
39:23
Resolution 18, 2025, a resolution
39:26
appointing Miss Cheyenne Johnson to
39:28
serve on the Environmental Advisory
39:32
Thank you, council members. Are there
39:34
any final questions, comments, or
39:36
concerns related to resolution 18 of
39:40
2025? Just a brief comment. Um, I look
39:43
forward to this appointment to see the
39:45
body uh back in action and, you know,
39:47
producing some great things for the city
39:48
as far as environmental stance is
39:50
concerned. So, thank you. Thank you. I
39:53
just have two additional comments.
39:55
First, I wanted to confirm the receipt
39:57
of Miss Johnson's statement of financial
40:00
interest uh which was uh received on
40:05
2025. Um as you may remember, there's a
40:08
10-day grace period needed um for the
40:11
form to be on file. So, we have exceeded
40:14
that um time frame. So, that allows us
40:17
the opportunity to vote on the
40:18
resolution today. Second, I wanted to
40:21
note that with this appointment, um this
40:24
is council's fourth appointment to the
40:27
environmental uh advisory council. Uh
40:31
the mayor has three appointments to make
40:34
but with the majority of the um
40:38
appointments made the council can resume
40:42
meeting because there would be a quorum.
40:44
So I just wanted to note that. Any final
40:47
questions, comments or concerns? Okay,
40:49
seeing and hearing none, Mr. Trusel,
40:51
could you please call the vote? Miss
41:01
Miss Green, yes. Miss Rolls, yes. Mr.
41:06
Rodriguez, yes. Miss Bowers, yes.
41:11
Resolution 18, 2025 passes by a vote of
41:14
six to zero. Thank you. Next we have
41:18
resolution 20 of 2025. Mr. Trudeell,
41:21
could you please read it into the
41:24
Resolution 20, 2025, a resolution
41:28
authorizing and approving the submission
41:30
of a petition to the Pennsylvania Liquor
41:32
Control Board for an exemption of a
41:34
specific downtown area of the city of
41:36
Harrisburg from the board's regulations
41:38
regarding amplified music being heard
41:41
off the licensed premises in favor of
41:43
enforcing the city's adopted noise
41:45
control and abatement ordinance. Thank
41:48
you. Um, I will entertain a motion to
41:50
suspend the rules for discussion. So
41:52
moved. Is there a second? Second. Thank
41:55
you. So before us we have resolution 20
41:59
2025. Uh we do have uh an amended
42:06
resolution. What? Mr. L, would you like
42:08
to share the contents of the amendment
42:12
just for everyone's reference?
42:17
The amendment actually is pretty simple.
42:20
It went the original map that was being
42:44
as thank you council members. Are there
42:47
any questions related to the proposed
42:54
Yes. So on the agenda, the map that I
42:58
see is the is the one that ends at
43:01
Forester. I don't see the other map.
43:15
Yes, that's correct.
43:23
is that the one that was stated?
43:33
record, it appears that everybody's here
43:36
today with us at council do have the
43:39
correct map, the updated map.
43:45
Mr. Mr. Trudeale sending her the map
43:47
right now. Mr. Trude is going to send
43:48
you the map, the updated map so that you
43:50
have it. Thank you, Mr. Trudeale. The
43:52
physical map that we have was shared
43:55
last week um during the work session.
43:58
That's why we're in receipt and uh you
44:02
don't have it, Councilwoman Daniel. So,
44:03
I didn't want you to think it was
44:05
something um sneaky in any way, but no.
44:09
So, Mr. Trudale just forwarded the the
44:13
new Yeah. reason I'm just asking is
44:15
because it's not part of the like there
44:18
isn't can someone spell out what the
45:06
Beginning at a point being the The
45:09
center of the intersection of Forester
45:11
and Susanna Streets westernly along the
45:14
center line for street to the center of
45:16
the intersection north street and
45:19
southern center line
45:25
streets along center line
46:03
Street intersection North Street.
46:07
along the center line street to the
46:09
center of the intersection for
46:11
streetly along the center line of street
46:14
to the center of the intersection of
46:18
Street to the center of the intersection
46:48
street along the center line of James
46:53
street to the center of the intersection
46:56
street along center line Street
47:26
street intersection.
47:44
Thank you. Are there any additional
47:47
questions or comments related to the
47:50
amendment? Thank you, President Bowers.
47:55
that with all the streets and everything
47:58
just mentioned, I think if
48:01
this map was if those streets were
48:05
depicted on this map and it was
48:07
outlined, it would be easier for our
48:10
residents to follow along to see where
48:14
the coverage is because basically this
48:17
just has purple coloring in it and it's
48:20
kind of hard to follow. So I don't know
48:24
if there's any way you know for
48:28
residents who are trying to follow this
48:56
technological. So again there will be
48:58
another opportunity for everyone um
49:04
questions last year. Okay, that's good.
49:08
I apprec I appreciate that because if
49:11
residents want to know, you know, to see
49:14
the outline and to see all that
49:15
information you just read for people who
49:18
are visual, it's going to be clear for
49:20
them to understand it by looking at it.
49:24
And if no one has a copy of it or it's
49:26
not presented, then it's just difficult.
49:29
But thank you very much. Yeah. And I
49:32
think that um kind of piggybacking off
49:34
of that, right, the boundaries you just
49:36
read are not the boundaries that were
49:39
put in the notice uh for today's
49:41
meeting. So as of right now, unless
49:44
residents like read the you know
49:47
participated in the entire meeting like
49:49
they don't the boundaries look like the
49:51
one that was um advertised today,
49:59
right? So I believe at the work session
50:02
was Councilman Jones who requested that
50:05
it be specific to what it is
50:29
and the boundaries that are articulated
50:33
in the amended version were reviewed
50:35
during last week's work session. So,
50:38
this would be the second time that
50:40
everyone is at least hearing the map if
50:43
you aren't if it's not physically in
50:45
front of you. So, I wanted to clarify
50:46
that. Are there any other additional
50:50
questions, comments, or concerns related
50:53
to the proposed amendment?
50:56
Okay, seeing and hearing none, I will
50:59
entertain a motion to resume our
51:01
legislative session. So moved. Is there
51:03
a second? Second. Thank
51:11
uh, I move to amend resolution 20 of
51:17
2025 to expand the map as it is
51:20
resembled in resolution 85 of 2017.
51:30
Are there any questions, comments, or
51:33
concerns from council members before we
51:35
open the floor for public
51:38
comment? Um, I'll just note uh for the
51:40
public record that this isn't an
51:42
entirely new map. This reverts it back
51:44
to the map from 2017. So, essentially,
51:46
it's erasing the updates that reduced
51:48
the footprint um that were made in 2019.
51:52
So, this was a map that was in place
51:58
other questions, comments, or concerns
52:01
members? Okay, seeing and hearing none,
52:05
uh we will open the floor for public
52:06
comment for anyone that would like to uh
52:09
share comments on the uh motion that is
52:27
Hello, I'm Mark Santana. I live in the
52:29
200 block of Liberty Street. Um, I've
52:32
lived downtown for 25 years. I'm the
52:35
president of the Capital Area Neighbors
52:37
Group, which encompasses the downtown
52:41
map. Um, we've already used this map
52:44
before and as far as I know, it's been
52:46
successful. We haven't had any problems
52:48
with it. Uh, and what this allows us to
52:50
do is to police our own neighborhoods
52:52
with the Harrisburg City Police um, and
52:56
the Capitol Police rather than have the
52:58
liquor control board in Harrisburg. I
53:00
think we should be able to take care of
53:02
our own here as we have in the past.
53:04
And, uh, although this is a public
53:06
coming out of the public safety
53:08
committee, I think it is part of
53:10
economic development as uh, downtown is
53:13
in crisis, Harrisburg is in crisis. We
53:16
need as much help as we can. Uh, as I
53:18
said at the last meeting, any business
53:21
owner that's still holding on with a
53:23
restaurant or um a bar downtown is
53:25
honorable and commendable. We should be
53:27
trying to help these people as much as
53:29
we can. We're able to police them.
53:32
There's methods that residents, if they
53:35
need to, can reach out to the Harrisburg
53:37
police and make a complaint. They can
53:39
reach out to the liquor control
53:40
enforcement and make a complaint. So,
53:42
it's not like we're just letting things
53:44
run wild. we are actually taking uh our
53:47
closer eye here. Instead of getting the
53:49
Commonwealth involved in Harrisburg, we
53:51
can just keep Harrisburg policed by
53:53
Harrisburg. Um so I would um encourage
53:56
all of you to vote yes on this
54:00
Thank you. Is there anyone else who
54:02
would like to offer public comment?
54:05
Uh yes. Um uh Ed Jericho, 1521 street.
54:10
And uh I just want to say uh I did
54:12
attend the work workshop session last
54:15
week. So I've been trying to follow the
54:17
map. This map does address my concerns
54:20
which was to include the Midtown area.
54:22
There's several establishments that have
54:23
invested big money. You need to make
54:25
sure they're you know covered in this
54:27
amendment. So, I I know it's been hard
54:29
to follow all these maps, and I
54:30
appreciate the council member, I mean,
54:32
the lawyers department trying to uh
54:34
connect all the dots, but I think
54:36
everyone's on top of it now, and uh I'm
54:38
satisfied with the final output here,
54:40
and I appreciate if you'd all vote in
54:42
the affirmative. Thank you. Thank you.
54:45
Is there anyone else?
54:48
Yes. My name is John Trainer from
54:50
Harrisburg Midtown Art Center and um of
54:53
course, I would love council to support
54:55
this amendment, but uh resolution, but
54:59
also this map actually uh that you refer
55:03
to as 2017 actually was passed in 2014.
55:07
So from 14 until 19 we had the Midtown
55:11
was included why the map changed in
55:14
2019. We have no idea. U the city
55:18
solicitor didn't recall why it was
55:20
changed, but it certainly wasn't changed
55:22
with city council's knowledge. So I
55:27
respectfully request that
55:29
you include me in this new resolution.
55:34
Thank you. Is there anyone
55:37
else that would like to offer public
55:39
comment either to my right in the middle
55:44
left? Okay. Seeing and hearing no one,
55:49
uh we have an amendment before us. So,
55:52
we are going to vote on the amended
55:56
version of resolution 20 of 2025.
56:01
Mr. Trudale, could you please call the
56:15
Miss Rose, yes. Mr. Rodriguez, yes. Miss
56:20
Bowers, yes. Resolution 20 of 2025
56:24
passes as amended by a vote of six to
56:30
you. Next, we have resolution 21 of
56:34
2025. Mr. Trudale, could you please read
56:45
Resolution 21 of 2025, a resolution
56:48
approving the preliminary/final lot
56:50
consolidation and land development plan
56:52
to construct a new City of Harrisburg
56:55
parks maintenance facility on site. The
56:58
existing nearby facility at 901 North
57:00
12th Street will be demolished as part
57:02
of a larger project redeveloping SRTA's
57:05
operations and maintenance facility at
57:08
901 North Cameron Street which will
57:10
include the vacation of public right
57:12
away and consolidation of lots in the
57:14
block to the south and associated site
57:17
and access improvements. Thank you.
57:19
Council members, are there any
57:21
questions, comments, or concerns related
57:23
to resolution 21 of 2025? just a
57:27
concern, Madam President. So although I
57:30
am for this resolution, um Mr. Trainer,
57:33
since you are here, um throughout the
57:35
duration of since I've been on council,
57:38
there's been time and time some concerns
57:40
about HMAC. So if you ever get some
57:43
time, I'd love to see if Mr. Trudeale
57:44
could schedule a meeting between you and
57:46
I just to see if you're stepping up any
57:48
precautions as far as security and
57:50
maintenance. There were a few quite a
57:52
few things that were addressed and I
57:54
just like to speak with you about it so
57:56
we can get ahead of it moving forward if
57:58
that'd be okay with you. Thank you, sir.
58:01
Thank you, Madam President. Thank you.
58:03
Any other questions, comments, or
58:05
concerns related to resolution 21 of
58:08
2025? Thank you, President um Bowers.
58:12
um I totally agree with our economic
58:16
development, especially in the downtown
58:17
and Midtown area. I do think that um
58:20
this resolution is important um to make
58:23
sure we are at a place where we're
58:25
developing that and not um hurting it.
58:27
And um Harrisburg right now in that area
58:31
um definitely needs to look at a
58:34
different vision on um how we are
58:37
expanding the line so we do keep
58:39
businesses within our city um and more
58:41
come in. However, I do have um I I did
58:44
have a few residents who do have some
58:46
issues with uh the district and the
58:48
HMAC, but I I feel the same. I think if
58:50
we can come to some type of conversation
58:53
about what that looks like um moving
58:55
forward, I I definitely support this
58:58
resolution because I know
59:01
um that the HMAC in the district are
59:04
staples right now in our community. Um,
59:06
a lot of us go to them, we attend events
59:09
there, and I want those to continue to
59:13
go and thrive even more. So, I I I
59:16
definitely also would like it to
59:17
entertain a conversation because there
59:19
are homeowners across the street from
59:21
both of those establishments and their
59:24
quality of life, of course, is
59:25
important. So, yes, I I thank you for
59:27
being here tonight and I thank you for
59:30
um indulging in a conversation later on
59:32
how we just make everybody be able to
59:34
have their quality of life while the
59:36
businesses are still there because I
59:37
think that working in tandem is very
59:39
important. So, thank you. Um I have a
59:42
comment. Okay. Um so resolution 21 is
59:49
um maintenance facility that's going to
59:52
be built by SRTA uh at the corner of
59:55
what is it 12 and Cameron Street right
59:57
there at Cameron. Um the old CAT station
1:00:00
I guess called SRTA now. Um and I think
1:00:03
this is a great opportunity for the city
1:00:05
of Harrisburg to have a new facility
1:00:07
built. Um I know in the past I've been
1:00:09
to that current facility and that
1:00:11
facility has needed some updates for a
1:00:13
while. So I think this is a great
1:00:14
opportunity for the city to partner with
1:00:17
um SRTA making sure we can get an
1:00:19
updated trans transportation facility uh
1:00:22
as well as getting our park maintenance
1:00:23
facility um fixed up as well. Um and so
1:00:26
that's resolution 21 of 2025.
1:00:30
Um that's all I have. Thanks. Any other
1:00:34
questions, comments, or concerns related
1:00:36
to resolution 21 of
1:00:39
2025? Okay, seeing in hearing none, Mr.
1:00:42
Trudale, could you please call the vote?
1:00:57
Miss Rose, yes. Mr. Rodriguez, yes. Miss
1:01:03
Bowers. Yes. Resolution 21 of 2025
1:01:07
passes by vote of 6 to zero. Thank you.
1:01:10
Next we have resolution 24 of 2025. Mr.
1:01:14
Trudeale, could you please read it into
1:01:16
the record? Resolution 24, 2022, a
1:01:20
resolution authorizing the city of
1:01:21
Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a
1:01:23
professional services agreement with
1:01:25
urban engineers incorporated for the
1:01:27
purpose of providing construction
1:01:29
inspection and construction management
1:01:31
services on an asneeded basis.
1:01:34
Thank you. Council members, are there
1:01:36
any questions, comments, or concerns
1:01:39
related to resolution 24 of 2025? Uh,
1:01:43
just a comment, Madam President. Um, I
1:01:46
just want to give kudos to our city
1:01:47
engineer. Um, love the attitude during
1:01:49
last week's presentation and just the
1:01:51
go-getter spirit is what we need here in
1:01:53
the city and uh, it's one thing to say,
1:01:55
"Hey, I'm great at this," but it's
1:01:56
another thing to say, "Hey, we need help
1:01:58
and this is how we move forward." So,
1:02:00
kudos and I look forward to the many
1:02:01
projects we can finish up. Thank you.
1:02:04
Thank you. Any other questions,
1:02:06
comments, or concerns? Okay, seeing and
1:02:08
hearing none, Mr. Trudeale, could you
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please call the vote? Miss Daniels, yes.
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Miss Davis, yes. Miss Green, yes.
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Mr. Rodriguez, yes. Miss Bowers, yes.
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Resolution 24 of 2025 passes by vote of
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six to zero. Thank you. Next, we have
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resolution 25 of 2025. Mr. Trudale,
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could you please read it into the
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record? Resolution 25 of 2025. A
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resolution confirming the appointment of
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Leon Houston, Senior, to serve on the
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Citizens Law Enforcement Advisory
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Thank you. Resolution 25 of 2025 will
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move to the public safety committee.
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Next, we have resolution 26 of
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2025. Mr. Trudeelle, could you please
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read it into the record? Resolution 26,
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2025, a resolution confirming the
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appointment of Amichi Walker Senior to
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serve on the Citizens Law Enforcement
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Advisory Committee. Thank you.
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Resolution 26 of 2025 will also move to
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the public safety committee. Our final
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resolution this evening is resolution 27
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of 2025. Mr. Trudale, could you please
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read it into the record? Resolution 27
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of 2025, a resolution authorizing the
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city of Harrisburg to negotiate and
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enter into a professional services
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agreement with BA environmental
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associates for the purpose of providing
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environmental and geotechnical
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consultant services for the whole manner
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aquatic facility project. Thank you.
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Resolution 27 of 2025 will move to the
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parks, recreation, and enrichment
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committee. Is there any old business for
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discussion? Councilwoman Ross. Yes.
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Thank you, President Bowers. Uh, I
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wanted to speak about um the three
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playgrounds that I believe are going
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through updates right now. Uh, 7th and
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Radner, Gorgus Park, and Wilson Park.
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Uh, a few residents, um, even Miss Cook
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here today have, um, asked about any
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updates on those parks or what is
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happening. So, I wanted to give the
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updates that I do have. Um I did uh
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speak with um Director
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Ross back in March and the one update
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that I did get from her uh was that uh
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Rner Field, Gorgus Playground uh and
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Reservoir actually was in the Wilson
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Park 7th and Rner Field, Gorgus
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Playground, Reservoir Park will be
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completed by the end of 2005.
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Construction 2025. I'm so sorry. Set us
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2025. We're gonna go forward. It went
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backwards enough. Um construction will
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start in May and concepts will be put on
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the website in the next few weeks. Um
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however, I do know residents need to
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hear this uh from the administration and
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from the directors. They have asked time
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and time again. Um I know that as
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council we have invited um the
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administration and directors down to
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speak to residents about any updates
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about these parks. Um because once uh
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council votes on it where the
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legislative branch it goes to the
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executive branch which is the mayor
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administration and that is where things
1:05:30
are executed and done. So there's more
1:05:32
information that um they can give you
1:05:34
that we are not able to. However, they
1:05:37
have declined to come down to speak to
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us. So, at this point, I would say that
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um any residents um any further
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questions you have so you can get more
1:05:45
information about updates on these
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playgrounds, especially with the
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playgrounds going to be open and need to
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be open in the summertime with the
1:05:53
program opening up. Please contact um
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the mayor administration for more
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information. Contact them directly um
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and maybe you could give us some updates
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as well. Uh because we would like to
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know what's happening with the
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playground. So, I just wanted to give
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that update on old business with the
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playgrounds. Thank you, President
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Bowers. Thank you. You're welcome. Is
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there any new business, council
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members? Okay. Seeing and hearing none,
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the time is 7:03 p.m. I will entertain a
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motion to adjurnn. So move. Is there a
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I second that. Thank you. We stand a