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Harrisburg City Planning Commission - 6/4/2025

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Summary

The Harrisburg City Planning Commission approved key municipal updates, including a larger digital message sign for the Downtown Improvement District, a new special-event space at 1025 Market Street, and a neighborhood convenience store variance at 1415 Sycamore Street to reactivate a blighted, long-vacant commercial property.

This meeting highlights how local government balances commercial adaptive reuse and neighborhood revitalization with critical safety concerns like parking availability, flood plane regulations, and traffic distraction limits.

Section summaries

0:00-7:00

Downtown Improvement District Signage Variance

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The Commission reviews a variance request to replace an 88-square-foot digital sign at Market and South Second Streets with a larger, higher-resolution model. Staff recommend approval under the condition that transitions are limited to six per minute to prevent driver distraction. The applicant accepts the conditions, and the commission unanimously approves.

It highlights key regulatory standards for digital signage in high-traffic urban centers.

7:00-8:00

1951 Hurst Street Case Continuance

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A variance application for a sign size deviation at 1951 Hurst Street is presented. Because the applicant's local representative is unable to attend, the Commission votes to grant a continuance to the next monthly meeting.

This is a brief procedural deferral with no active debate or project review.

8:00-21:00

Special Exception for 1025 Market Street Event Space

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The applicant requests a special exception to establish an event space in a 9,623-square-foot industrial building that previously housed a motorcycle club. Key topics of discussion include the AE 100-year flood plane requirements, noise/alcohol bans, a 90-person capacity limit, and recommended off-street parking coordination. The proposal is approved unanimously.

This section covers practical zoning hurdles for adaptive reuse, parking workarounds, and neighborhood compatibility.

21:00-28:00

Variance and Parking Relief for 1415 Sycamore Street

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The Commission evaluates a request to open a convenience store in a long-abandoned residential-zone building without off-street parking. Staff support the petition, noting it will eliminate a local source of blight. The request is approved on the condition of a successful comprehensive codes inspection and adherence to residential convenience store rules.

Essential for understanding how zoning variances are leveraged to eliminate local blight and activate historic storefronts.

28:00-31:00

Other Business & Adjournment

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The Planning Bureau outlines a busy upcoming agenda with six to seven items. The Commission briefly discusses and votes to sign a support letter for a downtown economic development and connectivity initiative before officially adjourning.

This section covers high-level administrative updates and procedural sign-offs that are not project-specific.

Key points

  • Regulating Digital Signage for Traffic Safety — The Commission approved a 40% size increase for the Downtown Improvement District's electronic message wall sign at Market and South Second Streets, conditioning it on a limit of six message transitions per minute.
  • Overcoming Obstacles to Activate Vacant Spaces — Establishing an event space at 1025 Market Street required a special exception for a 'use not specifically prohibited' inside an industrial corridor, transforming a former motorcycle club into a community asset.
  • Revitalizing Neighborhoods by Eradicating Blight — The approval of a convenience store variance at 1415 Sycamore Street reactivates an abandoned building that has acted as a 'bleeding influence' of blight on the surrounding medium-density residential zone.
Because the applicant is predicating their request on driver legibility and safety, the planning bureau recommends that the signage limit message transitions to six transitions per minute per pendot guidance... Jeff Knight (Planning Bureau Staff)
I'm quite aware it's not required, but we don't want a lot of problems there. Planning Commissioner

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foot structure which was constructed in

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1987. The property is bounded by Market

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Street to the north, the property at 9

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South Second Street to the east and

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south, and South Second Street to the

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west. This semi- detached structure

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features elements of a modern

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architectural style. Character defining

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features include stone facade with

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granite water table, the oversized

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recessed entryways featuring curved

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glass elements, the ribbon windows on

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all elevations, and the asymmetric

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penthouse level. There are two main

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entrances on the northern elevation with

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which both feature full view metal doors

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set within simple frame simple metal

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frames and topped with large plate glass

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windows which flank full view revolving

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doors topped with tall curved glass

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panes. A secondary access on the western

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elevation features a recessed entrance

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with a full view metal with full view

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full view metal double doors flanked and

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topped by plate glass windows.

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Fenistration otherwise is limited to

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rows of plate glass windows on all

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elevations and all floors. The structure

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is topped with flat rubber roofs. The

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western portion of the property

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accommodates the Serta transfer center,

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including bus shelter, bus lanes,

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shelters, and seating. Although the

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architectural style style differs

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somewhat from other nearby buildings in

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the downtown, there are others of the

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same massing and design in the

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surrounding blocks which accommodate

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more of Harrisburg's newer development.

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As the downtown neighborhood is

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characterized by the diversity of its

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architectural styles, age of

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construction, and general building

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design, and the sub the subject property

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thus minimally contributes to the

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architectural character of the

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community.

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The planning bureau staff recommends the

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request be approved

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uh with the following conditions.

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Because the applicant is predicating

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their request on driver legibility and

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safety, the planning bureau recommends

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that the signage limit message

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transitions to limit message transitions

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to six transitions per minute per pendot

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guidance for billboards and previous

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appro approvals for similar proposals

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granted by the zoning hearing board.

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Planning bureau staff recommends the

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request be approved for the following

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reasons. The proposed signage will

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better promote publicly accessible

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activities and events held by government

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agencies and local nonprofits and will

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not be used to advertise private

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businesses other than that of the

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property owner. And thus, there is a

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significant public benefit component to

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the proposal. Given the context of the

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signage location on a large building

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facade at a major major intersection in

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a visually congested area, the current

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sign is somewhat unnoticeable or

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illegible and thus there is

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justification for allowing larger

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signage more conspicuous to drivers and

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pedestrians. Okay. Thank you, Jeff.

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Could you state your names, address, and

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relationship to the project? Hi, my name

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is Phil Patrina, attorney at McNiss

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Wallace and um council on behalf of the

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Harrisburg Downtown Improvement

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District. Uh we're at 100 Pine Street in

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Harrisburg. And with me here tonight is

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uh yes, good evening. I'm Todd Vanderwy.

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I'm the executive director for the

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Harrisburg Downtown Improvement

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District. Uh, our office is right there

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at 22 North Second Street. I'm also a

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resident of Shipo, uh, 579 South Front

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Street. Okay. Thank you. Uh, you both

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heard the staff report with the U one

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condition. Are you acceptable with that

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condition? Yes, that condition is

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acceptable. Okay. Um, did you want to

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add anything else to the uh, report? Um,

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a few quick comments. We know you have a

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full agenda tonight. Um, but we agree

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with uh Mr. Knight's analysis. Um this

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is a pre-existing electronically

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changeable message wall sign. Uh the

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existing sign is 88 square feet. It has

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been there in its current form since

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2008. The downtown improvement district

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is now looking to update that sign with

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a new and improved sign that's bigger,

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clearer, easier to read, and we think

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will be more aesthetically pleasing to

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attract people to the downtown district

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uh and to promote the citywide uh and

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countywide events. So, th this is a a

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significant improvement over what uh is

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currently there. And uh we would just

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ask for the planning commission to

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recommend approval tonight uh for the

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zoning uh hearing board of our requested

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variance.

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Okay. Thank you. Um commissioners, I

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don't have any

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questions. This seems to be a

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straightforward period and I'm glad that

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there sign is being put up so that as

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you said

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safety you go by there and trying to

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look at it next. you know, you run into

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car whatever has. So with that, Mr.

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That was better than what some people

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called me today.

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So I just Yeah. I Are you moving it any

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higher up the building or is it staying

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in the same location? It's going to stay

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in the same location, but obviously the

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sign is larger, so it will um know it

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will span from the lower window pane to

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upper window pane

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of that. Yes. Yeah. It does. I mean,

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it's larger, but not tremendously

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larger. What's about 40% more

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like 5t higher approximately? Yes. Yeah.

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Just it always seemed too small.

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Yeah. just can't figure out how to make

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it larger without giving up windows, but

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it would be not quite Time Square yet.

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I don't know if we're proposing anything

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like that, but maybe one day. I think

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the main question was people talking

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about when you come across the bridge

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you're coming up to the traffic light

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there that there's blockage of the sign

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right now with trees other elements and

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poles and things that are there whether

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bigger really gets as much as you want

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but I applaud the improvement.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I agree. The current sign's almost

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unnoticeable. So this this is

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improvement. I'll be hoping for

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Mr.

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No questions,

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no questions.

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Is there anyone from the public or

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against this project? Start at the

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middle to my

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right. Appears not to

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be. Commissioner is going to get a vote

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on this.

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Second. It's been moved and second for

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approval with the one condition. All

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those in f by saying I I

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thank you very much. Thank you.

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Okay. The next item uh is a varance

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application for 1951 Hurst Streets which

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is zone industrial and commercial

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neighborhood which by Justin

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Woodward with complete signs to install

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a wall sign 50 square feet larger than

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permitted by right of

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25 just here. Uh no, so the applicants

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were not able to have a representative

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here. Um the applicant is actually uh

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from a science company in Alabama and

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they had a local representative and they

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weren't um able to make uh the meeting

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tonight. They had something come up. So

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uh they had requested continuence which

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I put on in front of everybody. So,

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do we need a vote on it? Uh, yeah. I

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think you should vote. Commissioners,

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is there a second? Second. It's been

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moved and second for continuation of

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this project. All those in favor state

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by saying I. I.

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Oppos? Motion

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carried. Okay. Item number three. This

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is a special uh exception application

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for 1025 market street which is zone

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downtown center. It's filed by Stephanie

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Sus events and it's to establish a use

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not specifically prohibited and event

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space use.

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Uh

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yes, the applicant is proposing to

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establish an event space on site which

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is classified as a use not specifically

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prohibited which requires the HB

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approval of a special exception

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application per section

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7-303.11b of the zoning code. Property

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at 1025 Market Street is a.18 acre lot

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featuring a one-story 9623 foot

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structure which was constructed circuit

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1900. property is bounded by Market

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Street and the property at 1029 Market

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Street to the north, Cameron Street and

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the property at 1029 Cameron Street to

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the east. The properties at 10 and 14

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South Cameron Street to the south and

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the property at 1021 Market Street to

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the west. This attached structure

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features elements of an indeterminant

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industrial architectural style.

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Character defining features include the

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unusual building configuration wrapped

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around the corner lot, the brick facade

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with a stone water table, the decorative

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brick and stone elements and bays

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separated by brick pillisters, and a low

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parapit wall at top the building. The

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interior space is divided into two

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sections. The main entrance to the

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portion accommodating the proposed use

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features a full view wooden door flanked

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by one over one double hung windows. The

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other entrance on the eastern elevation

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features a full view metal door and a

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recessed entrance flanked by sidelights

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and storefront windows and topped with a

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simple transom. There are utilitarian

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access doors on the southern elevation

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of the building as well. Penetration is

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limited to plate glass windows on the

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northern and eastern elevations,

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although the property formerly featured

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Florida ceiling storefront windows on

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those facades as well as the southern

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elevation that the owner has infilled

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with metal paneling.

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Um the structure is topped with a flat

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rubber with a flat metal roof. While the

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architecture is relatively non-escript

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is reflective of the industrial

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character of the surrounding

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neighborhood and the Cameron Street

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corridor overall and as such the

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property makes a minimal contribution to

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the architectural character of the

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community. The planning bureau staff

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recommends the request be approved with

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the following conditions. Uh given the

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location within the AE 100-year flood

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plane and the floodway, the applicant

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and property owner must ensure that any

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investments into the property are

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submitted to the planning bureau for

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consideration and review against the

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flood plane regulations and best

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practices before work can commence. Uh

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the planning bureau recommends the

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applicant consider coordination with the

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owners of nearby surface parking lots

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such as 101 or 1028 Market Street to

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secure leases for off- streetet parking

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spaces so that patrons do not end up

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parking on the sidewalks near the

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property. Uh the applicant must ensure

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they conform to the operations as

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outlined in the submitted business plan,

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including a prohibition on alcohol

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consumption and having operations end no

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later than midnight. Plan Bio staff

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recommends the request be approved for

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the following reasons. Property is

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located in a mixeduse corridor with

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nearby commercial, industrial, and

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institutional uses, but no nearby

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residential units, and thus the proposed

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use should not have an adverse impact on

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the neighborhood. The applicant has

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provided a detailed site plan confirming

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uh business plan, sorry, that confirming

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that no alcohol will be uh consumed on

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site and that events will not run past

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midnight. As such, the proposal is

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similar to a previously approved event

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space use at 2307 Berry Hill Street

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located in a residential neighborhood

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which has not had adverse impacts on the

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community. And finally, the proposed

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development will activate an existing

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vacant building with a use that will

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accommodate the special occasion needs

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of local residents, helping the helping

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to activate the area on nights and

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weekends.

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Thank you, Jeff. You both heard the

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staff report with the conditions. Um,

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first, could you state your name and

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address and relationship to the project?

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My name is Stephanie.

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I address

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KD3 Design Studio representing owner and

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helping with their

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special located third street.

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Okay. As I was saying, you heard the

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conditions stated by the staff. Are you

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acceptable this condition?

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Yes. There there actually is no plan

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construction is large enough. It has

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28. The owner is working with some of

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the local people around there to see

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about parking.

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If you can get some sort of agreement to

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have that

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place. Okay. Um that's the main area. Of

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course, I'm always concerned with the

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parking.

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So, this is staff recommended to get

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some leases or nearby parking lots. We

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don't want parking on the

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sidewalk and probably events you're

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going to have a few people coming to. So

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I guess by the

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uh other meeting then you you'll have a

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plan for that or at least look at I mean

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by by zoning ordinance it's not

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required.

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So we were looking into it. I mean there

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is there is actually a parking lot right

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around the corner on 10th Street.

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I think the owner has looked into that.

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I'll talk to

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quite aware it's not required, but we

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don't want a lot of problems there.

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Understand?

14:02

Okay, commissioners, that was my only

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concern. And we'll start with

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commission.

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Uh, just a quick question. What was in

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there previously? Was it a restaurant or

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what was that? was actually a private

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biker club. Motorcycle club. Okay. Life

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motorcycle club. It was I was in there

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before. It was pretty I mean it was an

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open space and they had a little bar

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area.

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I I don't I think when I checked with

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the codes I don't know they had

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it just kind of happened. Okay. Yeah.

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That was and that was before the current

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owner didn't own the didn't own the

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property at that time. What was in

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there? before that. Do you know by

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chance how long ago that would have

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been? I think it was a furniture store

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at one point. In the past? Yeah. Yeah. I

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was just trying to determine if it been

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a restaurant that would have already had

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Yeah. But if it had already had pattern

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of traffic in the past that would

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support, you know, but I agree. I mean,

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of course, you're going to want to find

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good places for people to park, but um

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yeah, that corner slowly, it needs

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activity.

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So, I support getting you in there.

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Thank you.

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recall there's been a lot of different

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things in there restaurants and over the

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years there's been a lot of

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activities commission

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yeah I'll be supporting this regardless

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of the answer to this question but have

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have you done much in the way of a

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outreach to the neighborhood let them

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know what you're up to and get their

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input um well I'm part of the um church

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And um

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I've

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done a lot of I've been doing this

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for I have

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a food bank. Um but this is my passion.

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This is

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As you already know,

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um an easy city to find a space like

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this. Um this is

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what

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showcase faces.

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Commission,

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most of my questions were answered in

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your business plan, but just for

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clarification, you said it will hold 90

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people. Is that banquet style?

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Yes. Um, it holds comfortably 10 to 15

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tables with even more space.

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Um, you know, I'm big

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on

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backdrops, so I do everything my

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Facebook for the past.

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And then my second question is, is there

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a kitchen? No. So people will just be

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bringing food in and and staging it on

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tables. So on that um we kind of

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improve. We've done a lot

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of place to place.

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It was all I'm sorry but dingy and black

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and red and just horrible looking. Um

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we've completely renovated it white and

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the pictures I myself have been working

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I have home that I have. So it on the

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corner where that bar used to be like a

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larger area where people can set food

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trays. Um it has a sink where people can

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wash their hands. and it has a space for

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a

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fridge

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water. Um, so there is a designated

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space for people to

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put

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it to tag a little bit reason that we're

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limiting it

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also 99 people in the

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building. So that's part of it why we

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you know I talked to make sure was okay

18:38

with that that we limit it in there and

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anything that she's done has been has

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just been paint on the walls and they

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said the countertop was already there.

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She just freshened it up, right?

18:51

They're not doing any they actually

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aren't doing anything, you know, any

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construction.

18:57

Thank you.

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Commission.

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Yeah. Um just pretty much echoing what

19:04

everybody else has said. Um you know,

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you're saying that the capacity will be

19:07

90 people. You know, making sure that

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you work out some type of parking

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arrangement. I know you talked about on

19:13

the weekends, but I'm sure you'll have

19:15

events during the week as well. So, as

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long as you, you know, get that worked

19:19

out with one of the nearby lots uh

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rather than definitely a supporter of

19:23

this, you know, that area and that

19:25

intersection needs a lot of help and

19:27

businesses are starting to slowly come

19:28

back. So, you know, good luck to you.

19:31

Thank you. I have been trying to work to

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get I got

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selling the actual law parking lot. So,

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they they only wanted to hear if I

19:46

wanted to buy the parking the parking

19:49

place. Don't want to buy it. But I'm

19:52

I've been very consistent into trying

19:55

for them to get me in touch with the

19:57

actual owner. See if I could get, you

19:59

know, an agreement of some

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sort. We're still the owner still trying

20:04

to work with other

20:08

A quick suggestion is before I retired,

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I used to work in that building uh at

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the corner and we had a agreement to use

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some of the parking spaces. Uh even

20:22

though they were quite busy then but now

20:25

since co I always see empty spaces. So

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you might go to ABC talk to them.

20:35

I know they were very cooperative with

20:37

this suggestion. Thank you.

20:42

U with that is there anyone in the

20:44

public for against the project

20:49

start on my right?

20:53

Uh commissioners, can I get a motion?

20:57

I move to approve the application with

20:59

the conditions as stated. Okay. Is there

21:02

a second? Second. Move a second to

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approve the project with the conditions.

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All those in favor state by saying I. I.

21:11

Oppos

21:12

and motion car. Good luck. Thank you.

21:16

Thank you very

21:30

much. Item number four. This is a

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variance and special exception

21:34

application for 1415 Sycamore Street

21:38

which is zon residential medium density

21:41

followed by Sam alley and is to

21:45

establish a convenience store on site

21:48

and to request relief from the

21:50

associated all street parking

21:51

requirements.

21:53

Uh yes. So the applicant is proposing to

21:55

establish a convenience store on site

21:57

and to request relief from the

21:58

associated off street parking

21:59

requirements. The project requires

22:00

zoning hearing board approval of a

22:01

variance application for a convenience

22:03

store use per section 7-305.7 of the

22:06

zoning code and have a special exception

22:07

application to request relief from the

22:09

off street parking requirements for such

22:10

uses as outlined in section

22:13

7-327.6 of the zoning code. Property at

22:16

1415 Sycamore Street is a 05 acre lot

22:18

featuring a two-story

22:20

481 square foot structure which was

22:22

constructed circa 1900. Property is

22:25

bounded by Sycamore Street to the north.

22:27

property at 1417 Sycamore Street to the

22:29

east and undeveloped public rights of

22:31

way to the south and west. The semi-

22:33

detached structure features elements of

22:34

an indeterminant architectural style.

22:36

Character defining features include the

22:38

formstone facade, the roll down metal

22:40

security doors, and a wide wooden

22:42

staircase on the rear elevation

22:43

providing access to a residential

22:44

apartment above. is unclear what the

22:46

main entrance is given the security

22:48

doors are locked in a closed setting,

22:50

but older images of the propo of the

22:52

property indicate that there was or is a

22:55

solid wooden door providing access to

22:57

the first floor as well as a similar

22:58

solid wooden door beside it, which once

23:00

provided access to interior interior

23:02

stairs to this upper floor.

23:04

Administration is limited to seven over

23:06

one windows on the front and side

23:07

elevations, although the property

23:09

formerly featured three sidebyside

23:11

windows on the first floor as well.

23:13

structure appears to be topped with flat

23:14

rubber roofs. The building is in a

23:16

significant state of disrepair and its

23:18

architectural features are not reflected

23:20

in any of the surrounding residential

23:22

properties. As such, the property does

23:24

not contribute to the architectural

23:25

character of the community and indeed

23:27

detracts from it. The planning bureau

23:29

staff recommends the request be approved

23:31

with the following conditions. The

23:33

applicant must ensure that the business

23:34

conforms to all specific criteria

23:36

outlined in section 7-309.2Q 2 Q of the

23:39

zoning code and the signage regulations

23:41

outlined in chapter 7-325 of the zoning

23:44

code. The applicant may not keep

23:45

products, displays, freestanding signage

23:47

or any other materials in the yard/

23:50

sidewalk in front of the building. And

23:51

finally, the applicant must allow the

23:53

codes bureau to perform a comprehensive

23:54

inspection of the entire building

23:56

property and building to ensure aspects

23:58

such as utilities and access points are

24:00

up to modern codes and to ensure the

24:01

structural stability of the building.

24:03

Flure staff recommends the request be

24:05

approved for the following reasons. The

24:07

proposed project will address a

24:08

long-standing vacant property that has

24:10

created a bleeding influence on the

24:11

neighborhood. The proposed use will

24:13

reestablish a convenience store use on

24:15

site that appears to have existed

24:17

several decades ago and reactivate a

24:19

vacant storefront space. And there

24:22

appears to be justification, sufficient

24:24

justification for the proposed variance

24:25

of special exception requests, including

24:27

the availability of on street parking

24:30

along the 13 and 100 and400 blocks of

24:33

Sycamore Street.

24:35

Thank you Jeff. Could you state your

24:37

names uh relationship to the project and

24:40

address? Um

24:45

um

24:52

project you both heard the conditions.

24:56

Are you

24:59

acceptable?

25:02

Um One of the other concerns I have is

25:06

um the size of the parking but it's not

25:08

really required is did you talk to any

25:12

of the

25:15

neighbors and what

25:18

was the neighbors are

25:35

I think there was a

25:44

story positive.

25:49

Yeah. And and just to uh clarify, I did

25:52

put a picture from the Dolphin County uh

25:54

tax parcel records on everybody's uh

25:56

desk up there. Uh that's the photo they

25:58

have from the records, which is probably

26:00

from the '9s. Um and I think uh the sign

26:04

on there says like Manor Market and

26:06

Grill, I believe. Uh so um that's kind

26:10

of even though we have nothing in the

26:12

records that there's like any merkantile

26:13

permit for the property and you go back

26:15

and Google Streets View and can't really

26:16

see any occupancy. Uh that does provide

26:19

um evidence that there was a similar use

26:21

on site.

26:26

So you're saying they were positive? For

26:28

the most part, everyone was

26:40

Okay, that's all questions I have at

26:42

this time.

26:47

Commissioner,

26:49

so you said you sent letters to the the

26:51

neighborhood people in the neighborhood.

26:54

Yes. Following up with his question and

26:55

explain to them what you're putting in

26:56

there. All right. Usually convenience

26:58

stores are one thing that gets the

27:00

public out,

27:01

but no further questions.

27:04

Mr. Reed, I'm just curious about the

27:06

proposed hours of operation.

27:09

Um, it's probably going to be

27:17

like

27:20

it work. No questions. The only comment

27:23

I have is just I think it would be it'd

27:27

be a good use of the space and

27:29

considering the way that the property is

27:31

laid out and it history it makes sense

27:34

for there be a store there.

27:38

Is there anyone from the

27:40

public? Left, middle,

27:43

right? I got a motion.

27:50

Motion to approve the conditions. Is

27:52

there a second? Second. Second for

27:56

approval with the conditions. All those

27:57

in favor state by saying I. I

28:01

oppose. Motion carries. Good luck. Thank

28:04

you.

28:08

Do you have any other business? Um, no

28:12

other business uh for tonight. Uh, next

28:15

month's looking uh like a pretty good

28:18

agenda. Probably six or seven items on

28:21

it. So,

28:22

[Laughter]

28:24

this is a good

28:29

anything commissioners for the good of

28:31

the water.

28:40

I

28:59

guess better indicator.

29:12

I do I do remember that. Um

29:28

and and to be clear, I believe this um

29:31

initiative is uh going to be focused on

29:33

economic development and maybe less so

29:35

like physical development of new

29:37

structures. But I mean that will

29:38

certainly come into play about bringing

29:40

residents new business space downtown

29:42

too and stuff.

30:01

With that, as chairman, I'd like to

30:03

recommen I'm going to work

30:37

Yeah. No. And there's a lot a lot of,

30:39

you know, a lot of that document uh

30:41

references downtown in terms of

30:42

connectivity, you know, economic

30:44

development, mixed use. Um and so I

30:48

certainly think it has um applicability

30:50

to at least as a um starting point for

30:54

some of the discussions.

30:59

Would the uh would I sign that or are

31:02

you going to sign um well if the if if

31:05

it would be coming from the planning

31:06

commission I think it would be best if

31:08

uh you signed that.

31:11

Okay. I have

31:14

nothing. Oh, yeah. I'm

31:16

sorry. Make that motion.

31:24

It's been moved and second for approval

31:26

of the letter. All those in favor state

31:28

by saying I

31:30

opposed

31:31

and motion carried. Very good. Could I

31:36

get a motion for journal?

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