0:00
foot structure which was constructed in
0:02
1987. The property is bounded by Market
0:04
Street to the north, the property at 9
0:05
South Second Street to the east and
0:07
south, and South Second Street to the
0:09
west. This semi- detached structure
0:11
features elements of a modern
0:12
architectural style. Character defining
0:13
features include stone facade with
0:16
granite water table, the oversized
0:17
recessed entryways featuring curved
0:19
glass elements, the ribbon windows on
0:21
all elevations, and the asymmetric
0:23
penthouse level. There are two main
0:24
entrances on the northern elevation with
0:26
which both feature full view metal doors
0:28
set within simple frame simple metal
0:30
frames and topped with large plate glass
0:32
windows which flank full view revolving
0:35
doors topped with tall curved glass
0:37
panes. A secondary access on the western
0:40
elevation features a recessed entrance
0:41
with a full view metal with full view
0:43
full view metal double doors flanked and
0:45
topped by plate glass windows.
0:47
Fenistration otherwise is limited to
0:48
rows of plate glass windows on all
0:51
elevations and all floors. The structure
0:53
is topped with flat rubber roofs. The
0:54
western portion of the property
0:55
accommodates the Serta transfer center,
0:57
including bus shelter, bus lanes,
0:59
shelters, and seating. Although the
1:00
architectural style style differs
1:02
somewhat from other nearby buildings in
1:04
the downtown, there are others of the
1:05
same massing and design in the
1:07
surrounding blocks which accommodate
1:08
more of Harrisburg's newer development.
1:10
As the downtown neighborhood is
1:11
characterized by the diversity of its
1:13
architectural styles, age of
1:14
construction, and general building
1:15
design, and the sub the subject property
1:18
thus minimally contributes to the
1:19
architectural character of the
1:23
The planning bureau staff recommends the
1:28
uh with the following conditions.
1:30
Because the applicant is predicating
1:31
their request on driver legibility and
1:34
safety, the planning bureau recommends
1:35
that the signage limit message
1:37
transitions to limit message transitions
1:40
to six transitions per minute per pendot
1:42
guidance for billboards and previous
1:44
appro approvals for similar proposals
1:46
granted by the zoning hearing board.
1:47
Planning bureau staff recommends the
1:48
request be approved for the following
1:50
reasons. The proposed signage will
1:51
better promote publicly accessible
1:53
activities and events held by government
1:55
agencies and local nonprofits and will
1:57
not be used to advertise private
1:58
businesses other than that of the
1:59
property owner. And thus, there is a
2:01
significant public benefit component to
2:03
the proposal. Given the context of the
2:05
signage location on a large building
2:06
facade at a major major intersection in
2:08
a visually congested area, the current
2:11
sign is somewhat unnoticeable or
2:12
illegible and thus there is
2:13
justification for allowing larger
2:15
signage more conspicuous to drivers and
2:18
pedestrians. Okay. Thank you, Jeff.
2:21
Could you state your names, address, and
2:23
relationship to the project? Hi, my name
2:26
is Phil Patrina, attorney at McNiss
2:28
Wallace and um council on behalf of the
2:31
Harrisburg Downtown Improvement
2:33
District. Uh we're at 100 Pine Street in
2:35
Harrisburg. And with me here tonight is
2:40
uh yes, good evening. I'm Todd Vanderwy.
2:42
I'm the executive director for the
2:44
Harrisburg Downtown Improvement
2:45
District. Uh, our office is right there
2:48
at 22 North Second Street. I'm also a
2:50
resident of Shipo, uh, 579 South Front
2:53
Street. Okay. Thank you. Uh, you both
2:56
heard the staff report with the U one
3:00
condition. Are you acceptable with that
3:02
condition? Yes, that condition is
3:04
acceptable. Okay. Um, did you want to
3:07
add anything else to the uh, report? Um,
3:11
a few quick comments. We know you have a
3:13
full agenda tonight. Um, but we agree
3:16
with uh Mr. Knight's analysis. Um this
3:19
is a pre-existing electronically
3:22
changeable message wall sign. Uh the
3:25
existing sign is 88 square feet. It has
3:28
been there in its current form since
3:31
2008. The downtown improvement district
3:34
is now looking to update that sign with
3:36
a new and improved sign that's bigger,
3:40
clearer, easier to read, and we think
3:42
will be more aesthetically pleasing to
3:45
attract people to the downtown district
3:48
uh and to promote the citywide uh and
3:50
countywide events. So, th this is a a
3:54
significant improvement over what uh is
3:57
currently there. And uh we would just
4:00
ask for the planning commission to
4:02
recommend approval tonight uh for the
4:04
zoning uh hearing board of our requested
4:09
Okay. Thank you. Um commissioners, I
4:14
questions. This seems to be a
4:16
straightforward period and I'm glad that
4:18
there sign is being put up so that as
4:24
safety you go by there and trying to
4:27
look at it next. you know, you run into
4:29
car whatever has. So with that, Mr.
4:46
That was better than what some people
4:49
So I just Yeah. I Are you moving it any
4:53
higher up the building or is it staying
4:55
in the same location? It's going to stay
4:57
in the same location, but obviously the
4:59
sign is larger, so it will um know it
5:02
will span from the lower window pane to
5:07
of that. Yes. Yeah. It does. I mean,
5:11
it's larger, but not tremendously
5:13
larger. What's about 40% more
5:17
like 5t higher approximately? Yes. Yeah.
5:20
Just it always seemed too small.
5:24
Yeah. just can't figure out how to make
5:26
it larger without giving up windows, but
5:28
it would be not quite Time Square yet.
5:33
I don't know if we're proposing anything
5:34
like that, but maybe one day. I think
5:36
the main question was people talking
5:38
about when you come across the bridge
5:39
you're coming up to the traffic light
5:41
there that there's blockage of the sign
5:43
right now with trees other elements and
5:46
poles and things that are there whether
5:48
bigger really gets as much as you want
5:50
but I applaud the improvement.
5:58
Yeah, I agree. The current sign's almost
6:00
unnoticeable. So this this is
6:02
improvement. I'll be hoping for
6:12
Is there anyone from the public or
6:14
against this project? Start at the
6:20
right. Appears not to
6:22
be. Commissioner is going to get a vote
6:29
Second. It's been moved and second for
6:31
approval with the one condition. All
6:34
those in f by saying I I
6:41
thank you very much. Thank you.
6:53
Okay. The next item uh is a varance
6:56
application for 1951 Hurst Streets which
7:00
is zone industrial and commercial
7:03
neighborhood which by Justin
7:06
Woodward with complete signs to install
7:11
a wall sign 50 square feet larger than
7:14
permitted by right of
7:16
25 just here. Uh no, so the applicants
7:20
were not able to have a representative
7:22
here. Um the applicant is actually uh
7:24
from a science company in Alabama and
7:26
they had a local representative and they
7:28
weren't um able to make uh the meeting
7:30
tonight. They had something come up. So
7:32
uh they had requested continuence which
7:34
I put on in front of everybody. So,
7:39
do we need a vote on it? Uh, yeah. I
7:41
think you should vote. Commissioners,
7:47
is there a second? Second. It's been
7:50
moved and second for continuation of
7:52
this project. All those in favor state
7:59
carried. Okay. Item number three. This
8:02
is a special uh exception application
8:06
for 1025 market street which is zone
8:08
downtown center. It's filed by Stephanie
8:15
Sus events and it's to establish a use
8:20
not specifically prohibited and event
8:29
yes, the applicant is proposing to
8:32
establish an event space on site which
8:34
is classified as a use not specifically
8:35
prohibited which requires the HB
8:37
approval of a special exception
8:38
application per section
8:41
7-303.11b of the zoning code. Property
8:44
at 1025 Market Street is a.18 acre lot
8:46
featuring a one-story 9623 foot
8:49
structure which was constructed circuit
8:51
1900. property is bounded by Market
8:53
Street and the property at 1029 Market
8:55
Street to the north, Cameron Street and
8:57
the property at 1029 Cameron Street to
8:59
the east. The properties at 10 and 14
9:01
South Cameron Street to the south and
9:03
the property at 1021 Market Street to
9:04
the west. This attached structure
9:06
features elements of an indeterminant
9:08
industrial architectural style.
9:09
Character defining features include the
9:11
unusual building configuration wrapped
9:13
around the corner lot, the brick facade
9:15
with a stone water table, the decorative
9:17
brick and stone elements and bays
9:19
separated by brick pillisters, and a low
9:21
parapit wall at top the building. The
9:23
interior space is divided into two
9:24
sections. The main entrance to the
9:26
portion accommodating the proposed use
9:28
features a full view wooden door flanked
9:30
by one over one double hung windows. The
9:32
other entrance on the eastern elevation
9:34
features a full view metal door and a
9:36
recessed entrance flanked by sidelights
9:37
and storefront windows and topped with a
9:39
simple transom. There are utilitarian
9:41
access doors on the southern elevation
9:42
of the building as well. Penetration is
9:44
limited to plate glass windows on the
9:46
northern and eastern elevations,
9:47
although the property formerly featured
9:49
Florida ceiling storefront windows on
9:50
those facades as well as the southern
9:52
elevation that the owner has infilled
9:58
Um the structure is topped with a flat
10:01
rubber with a flat metal roof. While the
10:03
architecture is relatively non-escript
10:05
is reflective of the industrial
10:07
character of the surrounding
10:08
neighborhood and the Cameron Street
10:09
corridor overall and as such the
10:12
property makes a minimal contribution to
10:14
the architectural character of the
10:16
community. The planning bureau staff
10:18
recommends the request be approved with
10:20
the following conditions. Uh given the
10:22
location within the AE 100-year flood
10:24
plane and the floodway, the applicant
10:26
and property owner must ensure that any
10:27
investments into the property are
10:28
submitted to the planning bureau for
10:30
consideration and review against the
10:31
flood plane regulations and best
10:33
practices before work can commence. Uh
10:35
the planning bureau recommends the
10:36
applicant consider coordination with the
10:38
owners of nearby surface parking lots
10:40
such as 101 or 1028 Market Street to
10:44
secure leases for off- streetet parking
10:45
spaces so that patrons do not end up
10:47
parking on the sidewalks near the
10:48
property. Uh the applicant must ensure
10:50
they conform to the operations as
10:52
outlined in the submitted business plan,
10:53
including a prohibition on alcohol
10:55
consumption and having operations end no
10:57
later than midnight. Plan Bio staff
10:59
recommends the request be approved for
11:01
the following reasons. Property is
11:02
located in a mixeduse corridor with
11:04
nearby commercial, industrial, and
11:06
institutional uses, but no nearby
11:07
residential units, and thus the proposed
11:09
use should not have an adverse impact on
11:11
the neighborhood. The applicant has
11:12
provided a detailed site plan confirming
11:14
uh business plan, sorry, that confirming
11:16
that no alcohol will be uh consumed on
11:19
site and that events will not run past
11:20
midnight. As such, the proposal is
11:22
similar to a previously approved event
11:24
space use at 2307 Berry Hill Street
11:26
located in a residential neighborhood
11:28
which has not had adverse impacts on the
11:30
community. And finally, the proposed
11:31
development will activate an existing
11:33
vacant building with a use that will
11:34
accommodate the special occasion needs
11:36
of local residents, helping the helping
11:38
to activate the area on nights and
11:41
Thank you, Jeff. You both heard the
11:43
staff report with the conditions. Um,
11:47
first, could you state your name and
11:48
address and relationship to the project?
11:52
My name is Stephanie.
12:10
KD3 Design Studio representing owner and
12:19
special located third street.
12:23
Okay. As I was saying, you heard the
12:25
conditions stated by the staff. Are you
12:28
acceptable this condition?
12:31
Yes. There there actually is no plan
12:35
construction is large enough. It has
12:40
28. The owner is working with some of
12:44
the local people around there to see
12:50
If you can get some sort of agreement to
13:02
place. Okay. Um that's the main area. Of
13:08
course, I'm always concerned with the
13:11
So, this is staff recommended to get
13:14
some leases or nearby parking lots. We
13:18
don't want parking on the
13:20
sidewalk and probably events you're
13:24
going to have a few people coming to. So
13:31
uh other meeting then you you'll have a
13:35
plan for that or at least look at I mean
13:37
by by zoning ordinance it's not
13:41
So we were looking into it. I mean there
13:42
is there is actually a parking lot right
13:45
around the corner on 10th Street.
13:49
I think the owner has looked into that.
13:56
quite aware it's not required, but we
13:58
don't want a lot of problems there.
14:02
Okay, commissioners, that was my only
14:04
concern. And we'll start with
14:11
Uh, just a quick question. What was in
14:13
there previously? Was it a restaurant or
14:15
what was that? was actually a private
14:18
biker club. Motorcycle club. Okay. Life
14:21
motorcycle club. It was I was in there
14:23
before. It was pretty I mean it was an
14:26
open space and they had a little bar
14:30
I I don't I think when I checked with
14:34
the codes I don't know they had
14:38
it just kind of happened. Okay. Yeah.
14:39
That was and that was before the current
14:41
owner didn't own the didn't own the
14:43
property at that time. What was in
14:45
there? before that. Do you know by
14:47
chance how long ago that would have
14:48
been? I think it was a furniture store
14:49
at one point. In the past? Yeah. Yeah. I
14:52
was just trying to determine if it been
14:53
a restaurant that would have already had
14:55
Yeah. But if it had already had pattern
14:57
of traffic in the past that would
14:59
support, you know, but I agree. I mean,
15:02
of course, you're going to want to find
15:03
good places for people to park, but um
15:06
yeah, that corner slowly, it needs
15:10
So, I support getting you in there.
15:16
recall there's been a lot of different
15:18
things in there restaurants and over the
15:22
years there's been a lot of
15:24
activities commission
15:28
yeah I'll be supporting this regardless
15:30
of the answer to this question but have
15:31
have you done much in the way of a
15:33
outreach to the neighborhood let them
15:35
know what you're up to and get their
15:37
input um well I'm part of the um church
15:58
done a lot of I've been doing this
16:09
a food bank. Um but this is my passion.
16:15
As you already know,
16:18
um an easy city to find a space like
16:46
most of my questions were answered in
16:47
your business plan, but just for
16:49
clarification, you said it will hold 90
16:51
people. Is that banquet style?
16:54
Yes. Um, it holds comfortably 10 to 15
16:59
tables with even more space.
17:02
Um, you know, I'm big
17:11
backdrops, so I do everything my
17:16
Facebook for the past.
17:20
And then my second question is, is there
17:22
a kitchen? No. So people will just be
17:25
bringing food in and and staging it on
17:28
tables. So on that um we kind of
17:32
improve. We've done a lot
17:38
It was all I'm sorry but dingy and black
17:42
and red and just horrible looking. Um
17:45
we've completely renovated it white and
17:49
the pictures I myself have been working
17:52
I have home that I have. So it on the
17:57
corner where that bar used to be like a
18:00
larger area where people can set food
18:03
trays. Um it has a sink where people can
18:06
wash their hands. and it has a space for
18:13
water. Um, so there is a designated
18:24
it to tag a little bit reason that we're
18:30
also 99 people in the
18:33
building. So that's part of it why we
18:36
you know I talked to make sure was okay
18:38
with that that we limit it in there and
18:42
anything that she's done has been has
18:44
just been paint on the walls and they
18:46
said the countertop was already there.
18:48
She just freshened it up, right?
18:51
They're not doing any they actually
18:53
aren't doing anything, you know, any
19:02
Yeah. Um just pretty much echoing what
19:04
everybody else has said. Um you know,
19:06
you're saying that the capacity will be
19:07
90 people. You know, making sure that
19:10
you work out some type of parking
19:12
arrangement. I know you talked about on
19:13
the weekends, but I'm sure you'll have
19:15
events during the week as well. So, as
19:17
long as you, you know, get that worked
19:19
out with one of the nearby lots uh
19:21
rather than definitely a supporter of
19:23
this, you know, that area and that
19:25
intersection needs a lot of help and
19:27
businesses are starting to slowly come
19:28
back. So, you know, good luck to you.
19:31
Thank you. I have been trying to work to
19:39
selling the actual law parking lot. So,
19:43
they they only wanted to hear if I
19:46
wanted to buy the parking the parking
19:49
place. Don't want to buy it. But I'm
19:52
I've been very consistent into trying
19:55
for them to get me in touch with the
19:57
actual owner. See if I could get, you
19:59
know, an agreement of some
20:01
sort. We're still the owner still trying
20:08
A quick suggestion is before I retired,
20:12
I used to work in that building uh at
20:14
the corner and we had a agreement to use
20:19
some of the parking spaces. Uh even
20:22
though they were quite busy then but now
20:25
since co I always see empty spaces. So
20:29
you might go to ABC talk to them.
20:35
I know they were very cooperative with
20:37
this suggestion. Thank you.
20:42
U with that is there anyone in the
20:44
public for against the project
20:53
Uh commissioners, can I get a motion?
20:57
I move to approve the application with
20:59
the conditions as stated. Okay. Is there
21:02
a second? Second. Move a second to
21:05
approve the project with the conditions.
21:08
All those in favor state by saying I. I.
21:12
and motion car. Good luck. Thank you.
21:30
much. Item number four. This is a
21:33
variance and special exception
21:34
application for 1415 Sycamore Street
21:38
which is zon residential medium density
21:41
followed by Sam alley and is to
21:45
establish a convenience store on site
21:48
and to request relief from the
21:50
associated all street parking
21:53
Uh yes. So the applicant is proposing to
21:55
establish a convenience store on site
21:57
and to request relief from the
21:58
associated off street parking
21:59
requirements. The project requires
22:00
zoning hearing board approval of a
22:01
variance application for a convenience
22:03
store use per section 7-305.7 of the
22:06
zoning code and have a special exception
22:07
application to request relief from the
22:09
off street parking requirements for such
22:10
uses as outlined in section
22:13
7-327.6 of the zoning code. Property at
22:16
1415 Sycamore Street is a 05 acre lot
22:18
featuring a two-story
22:20
481 square foot structure which was
22:22
constructed circa 1900. Property is
22:25
bounded by Sycamore Street to the north.
22:27
property at 1417 Sycamore Street to the
22:29
east and undeveloped public rights of
22:31
way to the south and west. The semi-
22:33
detached structure features elements of
22:34
an indeterminant architectural style.
22:36
Character defining features include the
22:38
formstone facade, the roll down metal
22:40
security doors, and a wide wooden
22:42
staircase on the rear elevation
22:43
providing access to a residential
22:44
apartment above. is unclear what the
22:46
main entrance is given the security
22:48
doors are locked in a closed setting,
22:50
but older images of the propo of the
22:52
property indicate that there was or is a
22:55
solid wooden door providing access to
22:57
the first floor as well as a similar
22:58
solid wooden door beside it, which once
23:00
provided access to interior interior
23:02
stairs to this upper floor.
23:04
Administration is limited to seven over
23:06
one windows on the front and side
23:07
elevations, although the property
23:09
formerly featured three sidebyside
23:11
windows on the first floor as well.
23:13
structure appears to be topped with flat
23:14
rubber roofs. The building is in a
23:16
significant state of disrepair and its
23:18
architectural features are not reflected
23:20
in any of the surrounding residential
23:22
properties. As such, the property does
23:24
not contribute to the architectural
23:25
character of the community and indeed
23:27
detracts from it. The planning bureau
23:29
staff recommends the request be approved
23:31
with the following conditions. The
23:33
applicant must ensure that the business
23:34
conforms to all specific criteria
23:36
outlined in section 7-309.2Q 2 Q of the
23:39
zoning code and the signage regulations
23:41
outlined in chapter 7-325 of the zoning
23:44
code. The applicant may not keep
23:45
products, displays, freestanding signage
23:47
or any other materials in the yard/
23:50
sidewalk in front of the building. And
23:51
finally, the applicant must allow the
23:53
codes bureau to perform a comprehensive
23:54
inspection of the entire building
23:56
property and building to ensure aspects
23:58
such as utilities and access points are
24:00
up to modern codes and to ensure the
24:01
structural stability of the building.
24:03
Flure staff recommends the request be
24:05
approved for the following reasons. The
24:07
proposed project will address a
24:08
long-standing vacant property that has
24:10
created a bleeding influence on the
24:11
neighborhood. The proposed use will
24:13
reestablish a convenience store use on
24:15
site that appears to have existed
24:17
several decades ago and reactivate a
24:19
vacant storefront space. And there
24:22
appears to be justification, sufficient
24:24
justification for the proposed variance
24:25
of special exception requests, including
24:27
the availability of on street parking
24:30
along the 13 and 100 and400 blocks of
24:35
Thank you Jeff. Could you state your
24:37
names uh relationship to the project and
24:52
project you both heard the conditions.
25:02
Um One of the other concerns I have is
25:06
um the size of the parking but it's not
25:08
really required is did you talk to any
25:18
was the neighbors are
25:49
Yeah. And and just to uh clarify, I did
25:52
put a picture from the Dolphin County uh
25:54
tax parcel records on everybody's uh
25:56
desk up there. Uh that's the photo they
25:58
have from the records, which is probably
26:00
from the '9s. Um and I think uh the sign
26:04
on there says like Manor Market and
26:06
Grill, I believe. Uh so um that's kind
26:10
of even though we have nothing in the
26:12
records that there's like any merkantile
26:13
permit for the property and you go back
26:15
and Google Streets View and can't really
26:16
see any occupancy. Uh that does provide
26:19
um evidence that there was a similar use
26:26
So you're saying they were positive? For
26:28
the most part, everyone was
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Okay, that's all questions I have at
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so you said you sent letters to the the
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neighborhood people in the neighborhood.
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Yes. Following up with his question and
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explain to them what you're putting in
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there. All right. Usually convenience
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stores are one thing that gets the
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but no further questions.
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Mr. Reed, I'm just curious about the
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proposed hours of operation.
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Um, it's probably going to be
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it work. No questions. The only comment
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I have is just I think it would be it'd
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be a good use of the space and
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considering the way that the property is
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laid out and it history it makes sense
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for there be a store there.
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Is there anyone from the
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public? Left, middle,
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right? I got a motion.
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Motion to approve the conditions. Is
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there a second? Second. Second for
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approval with the conditions. All those
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in favor state by saying I. I
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oppose. Motion carries. Good luck. Thank
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Do you have any other business? Um, no
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other business uh for tonight. Uh, next
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month's looking uh like a pretty good
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agenda. Probably six or seven items on
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anything commissioners for the good of
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guess better indicator.
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I do I do remember that. Um
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and and to be clear, I believe this um
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initiative is uh going to be focused on
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economic development and maybe less so
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like physical development of new
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structures. But I mean that will
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certainly come into play about bringing
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residents new business space downtown
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With that, as chairman, I'd like to
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recommen I'm going to work
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Yeah. No. And there's a lot a lot of,
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you know, a lot of that document uh
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references downtown in terms of
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connectivity, you know, economic
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development, mixed use. Um and so I
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certainly think it has um applicability
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to at least as a um starting point for
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some of the discussions.
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Would the uh would I sign that or are
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you going to sign um well if the if if
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it would be coming from the planning
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commission I think it would be best if
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nothing. Oh, yeah. I'm
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sorry. Make that motion.
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It's been moved and second for approval
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of the letter. All those in favor state
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and motion carried. Very good. Could I
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get a motion for journal?