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The End Times Scenario - Session 2 - Chuck Missler

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Well, again, I want to welcome you uh to

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the end time scenario session number

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two. And uh Shabbat shalom and let's bow

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our hearts for a word of prayer.

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Father, we thank you for the day and we

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thank you for your presence here. We

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pray father that you would just uh

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anoint this time with your holy spirit

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that we might have our lives and hearts

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open to your word. We pray father that

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you would guide us into truth and keep

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us from error but in all things keep us

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focused on our precious king in whose

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name we commit this day and ourselves in

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the name of Yeshua our lord our coming

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king our savior

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Jesus our messiah indeed. Amen.

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Okay. And uh we are in session two.

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We're going to just hit head on just to

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start it off with one of the most

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controversial subjects in the in the

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lexicon here. And we're going to talk

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about this thing which in Greek is

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called the harpato.

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And uh and uh it's commonly called the

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rapture. And uh it's it uh candidly

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it's the most preposterous doctrine in

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Christian evangelical Christianity.

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Bizarre

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strange

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viewpoint. It really is. We need to just

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acknowledge independent how we feel

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about it. We should just acknowledge it

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is a strange perception. So we want to

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hit that head on and talk about it. And

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uh so uh um I like to just admit to

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ourselves

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um it's a strange strange doctrine and

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when we travel to speak at other

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churches I usually find out in advance

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what the pastor's attitude is and if

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he's not comfortable with that I don't

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even get into that subject just not

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because I don't want to leave the wake

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of confusion behind me but at the same

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time it is in this case of course we

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should hit it head on and talk about it.

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We want to talk about the scriptural

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basis. Where does this idea come from?

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It wasn't cooked up by some some you

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know internet uh blogs. This is goes way

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way back. And uh so we want to talk

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about the scriptural basis of it. We'll

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talk about some alternative views about

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it. You and uh so explore that. And

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we're going to talk about a doctrine you

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don't find explicitly pronounced that

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way but it is a prevalent doctrine among

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many called the doctrine of eminence.

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What what does that mean? We'll get into

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that. And uh it may surprise you that

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I'm going to show you what I suspect are

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illusions to this in the Old Testament.

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Even among most conservative scholars,

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ought to say Dallas Theological Seminary

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or wherever, uh will argue that the

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rapture, and they're they're very pro-

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rapture about it, but they argue it

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doesn't show up in the Old Testament.

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And I'm I'm going to let you come to

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your own conclusions by showing you

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three passages in the Old Testament. You

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you decide. Isn't that what that's what

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u Fox News always say? You we report and

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you decide. Well, that's we'll do that

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with some of these issues. So, let's the

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rapture and uh so it's obviously the

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most preposterous belief of biblical

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Christianity. And uh so the word is

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actually not rapture that comes from the

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Latin but it's arpato in the Greek. It's

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to be the word means to be forcibly

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caught up and taken out. And that's

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what's emphasized in the Greek term.

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We're going to talk about the promise of

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it. We'll talk about the process by

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which it occurs and what the purpose of

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it is. And uh that we'll collectively

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call that the blessed hope. That's what

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Titus uh in the in the book of Titus

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does. We'll talk about its prophetic

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profile and we'll talk about problems.

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And those of you that are seminary

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trained know it must be true because

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they all this illiterative. You know, if

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you're a graduate from seminary, your

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points in in your sermon always have to

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start with the same letter. Usually P's

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or S's because it's easier. But uh I

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always needle my seminary friends that

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way. This must be true because there's

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aliteration. And so but the Jewish

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concept of prophecy is the pattern is

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patternist prologue. And we need to

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really understand the Jewish mind for

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many for many reasons. Let's start with

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the promise of this. Believe it or not,

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it starts in John 14

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in our study of the Gospel of John.

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We're going to enter that period which

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is called the uh upper room discourse

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from chapters 13 to 17, the Gospel of

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John. An incredible segment of his total

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gospel devoted to that one discourse.

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And uh right in the middle of it, of

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course, John 14. We'll take a look at it

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here. Says, "Let not your heart be

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troubled. Ye believe in God. Believe

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also in me."

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Wow. Then he continues, "In my father's

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house are many mansions, and if it were

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not so, I would have told you. I go to

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prepare a place for you." Really, that's

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what he's telling them.

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And if I go to prepare a place for you,

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I will come again and receive you unto

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myself.

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Really, if you're a careful student of

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the scripture, you know that's not the

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second coming.

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He comes in anger.

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and and he's blood stained from the

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blood of his enemies. Read Isaiah 63.

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And we will do that later.

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I will come again and receive you and

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myself that where I am there ye may be

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also. That's an incredible promise. Is

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that some kind of broad brush figurative

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thing or is it being specific?

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Well, he's How often do you see what's

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the subject of these verses? Not him.

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you

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if ye believe in God believe also in me

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I would have told you I find a a place

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for you I find a place for you I will

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receive you that where I am there ye may

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be also who's the focus of this you are

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certainly the 11 were and I'm going to

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suggest if you're one of his disciples

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it's you also

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you need to model let's back up a minute

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and let's try to understand a Jewish

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wedding not the current ones the ancient

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ones. How are they how are they

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formatted? We need to understand that.

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If for no other reason than John the

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Baptist always refers to himself as the

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bridegroom

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who's the bride, excuse me, a friend of

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the bridegroom. Who's the bridegroom?

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Jesus Christ, right? Book of Ruth. Go

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get you get into all of that. Okay.

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Well, it starts with the betrotheal, the

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cuba. And uh the payment of a purchase

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price.

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Purchase. See, the bride was purchased.

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Did you realize you were purchased?

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Absolutely.

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And uh set apart.

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The theological word is sanctified. The

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word just means set apart.

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And you can find that all through the

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scriptures. And I won't take the time.

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It'll be in your notes. You can move on

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here. The bridegroom departs. Then after

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the betrothel, he departs to the

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father's house.

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Really, that's the pattern. What does he

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do? He departs to his father's house

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typically in the old days to make an

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addition for his family subsequently,

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but uh he prepares the room edition, if

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you will. And uh the bride in the

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meantime doesn't know how long he'll be

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gone, but she has to be prepared to

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receive him at any moment.

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And he and and so she is charged to

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prepare for his eminent return. That's

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with an I, not an E, meaning

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something with no precedent warnings.

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Then there's a surprise gathering. He

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shows up sometimes in the middle of the

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night to gather his bride.

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And that's in all all through the Old

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Testament model. The hoopa then is the

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wedding in contrast to betrotheal. The

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betrotheal commits her that it would

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take an action of divorce to split it.

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In other words, it wasn't just a casual

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promise. No, it's a commitment. And but

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then the hoop of the wedding is directly

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and after the wedding occurs, the the

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marriage supper and it's traditionally

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seven days long. They those guys knew

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how to throw a they knew how to throw a

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party. You know, it's amazing when you

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study the feasts of Moses, they're not

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overnight. These are not one day thing.

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No day passes there. These are seven-day

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deals. And so, so that and don't confuse

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the wedding with the marriage supper.

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because we've got some bizarre

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observations to share with you as we go

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forward in this and most of that we'll

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do in in session six but anyway you can

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you can fish out from your own

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references some of this and so so and uh

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so the marriage fulfilled we are

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following that the covenant was

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established according to Paul in 1

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Corinthians 11 the purchase price was

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paid for by our Lord on the cross

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people worry about eternal security.

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I know I'm secure because my

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justification was established 2,000

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years ago on the cross.

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The bride then is set apart and of

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course we are set apart in the

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scripture. Paul make, you know, fulfills

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this model in terms of our participation

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and he reminds us of the covenant in 1

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Corinthians 11 and so forth. The

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bridegroom in the model has left for the

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father's house. Where is Jesus today?

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He's out of place. He's not on his

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throne. He's on his father's throne.

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That's going to get corrected.

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All those misplacements are correct in

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the book of Revelation.

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And Satan's free, but he's not going to

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be. Jesus is on the wrong throne. You

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can go right through and look at it

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almost of as correcting misplacements.

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The redeemed are on the earth. They're

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going to be with him and so on and so

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forth. And um anyway, uh

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so he's going to escort the uh to he'll

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have an escort to accompany him upon his

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return to gather his bride. 1

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Thessalonians 4. And we'll look at that

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specifically. In fact, that's the

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process. We'll take a look. We talked

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about the promise. I'm using John 14 as

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my platform there. We'll move move on

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and talk about how's this going to

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happen. It's described for you that the

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two most important letters

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esqueologically

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in the New Testament are the

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Thessalonian letters. The first

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Thessalonian letter is uh about the is

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about the rapture.

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the third the third Thessalonians

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which we call second Thessalonians

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because second Thessalonians was a

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forgery and Paul wrote second Thessal

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what we call second Thessalonians as a

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response to a forgery being circulated

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with his name on it apparently and once

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you understand that the whole tone of

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the what we call second Thessalonians

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and I'm always I've always been tempted

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to relabel that as third Thessalonians

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just to confuse my friends And uh so u

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but that's why I always like to talk

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about the epistle of Jacob. We call it

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James, but the word was Jake. But

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anyway, but that's just mischief. I'll

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move on. 1 Thessalonians 4. Okay, let's

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take a look at it. We'll do something

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radical. Let's just read it. Okay, let's

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set aside our presumptions, whatever

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they might be, and let's read what Paul

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says to the Thessalonians. The context

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is that some of their friends have

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passed away. And they when Paul was talk

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there talking about the Lord, they sort

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of feel because they've passed away,

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they may have missed something. And

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Paul's trying to set the record

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straight. Interesting thing just to make

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a background here. Paul was with the

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Thessalonians three weeks from scratch.

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He founds a church there. He's been with

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them three weeks and he's on. He then

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writes a letter back to them to remind

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them what he taught them in their first

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three weeks of Christian walk. That's

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startling to really put in focus here.

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He's going to talk about esquetology.

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He's going to talk about what we call

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the rapture.

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And he's reminding them, not some, this

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is not new information for them. It's

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something he's reminding them. When you

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get to the second Thessalonians, same

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thing. He's re explaining stuff a little

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more clearly that he taught them in

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those first three. I'm fascinated with

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that. We often think that, gee, those

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are topics we wait until a guy gets a

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little more mature in his Bible. Well,

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that might be good advice, but G. Paul

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will just hit it right on, apparently.

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Anyway, he goes on. And he says to them,

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"But I would not have you to be

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ignorant, brethren, concerning them

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which are asleep, that you sorrow not

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even as others which have no hope. For

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if we believe that Jesus died and rose

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again,

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even so them also which sleep in Jesus

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will God bring with him."

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Well, how can he do that?

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For this we say unto you, by the word of

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the Lord. Now this is not Paul's

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suspicions or comments. There's some he

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does that occasionally. No, this I say

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to you by the way of the Lord that we

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which are alive and remain unto the

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coming of the Lord shall not preede them

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which are asleep.

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How's that going to work? That raises a

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couple of questions. Well, he goes on,

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"For the Lord himself shall descend from

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heaven with a shout, with a voice of the

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archangel, and with the trump of God,

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and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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Then we which are alive and remain shall

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be caught up together with them in the

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clouds to meet the Lord in the air, not

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on the not on the earth, in the air,

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wherever that is. And so shall we ever

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be with the Lord.

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That's wild. Just stop there and embrace

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it. Cling to it. Realize what he's

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saying. Then we which are alive and

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remain shall be caught up together.

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That's the word harpato in the Greek.

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Snatched up forcibly

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together with them in the clouds.

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That's going to be a strange event. I I

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I can't I have two big problems with

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that. I can't. It's hard to visualize. I

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admit it. I'm even more mystified as I

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try to focus on what's left behind. If

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that happens, what's going to happen on

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the earth? It's life's going to go on

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presumably.

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These guys just all going to disappear.

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You got to be kidding, Chuck. That's

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weird. Yes, it is. That's what it says.

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In fact, he goes on to say, "Wherefore,

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comfort one another with these words."

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That's the passage.

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The Lord himself shall descend from

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heaven. Okay, with a shout, the voice of

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the archangel, and the trump of God. By

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the way, the word trump of God only

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appears twice in the Bible. It occurs at

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Sinai when the law was given. And here,

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these aren't the trumpet judgments of

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Revelation.

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It isn't the chauffear or the silver

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trumpets of the temple. Neither one

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something very distinctive. It's the

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trump of God.

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And so, if you want to start digging, I

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encourage you to just make that a

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footnote in your notes to check track it

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down. Trump of God. Where does it

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appear? only twice in the scripture,

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the voice of the archangel. What voice

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are we going to hear? I have a

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suspicion. I can't prove it from the

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text. You know what I think we're going

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to hear?

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Our own names.

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Lazarus, come forth.

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I think God's capable of doing that.

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Calling us each by name. Wow.

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And the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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And the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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And then we which are alive and remain

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shall be caught up together with him in

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the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

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And so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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What a promise. What a promise to cling

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to. Nothing will from that point on

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separate us from him. That's

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breathtaking.

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Wherefore comfort one another with these

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words.

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I'm working very hard not to take you in

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a byro hypers hyperspaces and the dimen

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that we're not dealing in three

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dimensions here but more than that.

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We'll go on here now. You say, "Well,

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the book that your friends will say the

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word rapture doesn't occur in the

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Bible." Wrong. Get your Latin Bible.

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Okay? And you'll find it is in the Latin

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Bible. That's where we get it. Rap. And

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it's a proper tense of rapio. Our

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English words wrapped and rapture come

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from the past participle of that Latin

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word. So yes, the word rapture occurs in

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the Latin Bible, but most of us use

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English Bibles, right? And so, uh,

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that's fine. But if you really want to

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get strict, let's go back to the Greek.

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It's the harpato.

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And it's probably not a bad practice to

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start using that term.

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Did you know there's seven raptures in

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the scripture? Not all the same kind of

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thing, but seven forcible. Enoch was

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raptured.

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Elijah was raptured.

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Jesus in several places has alluded to

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that way. Philip in Acts eight. And

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that's a very interesting one because

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that validates in my mind at least the

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Ethiopian location for the ark of the

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covenant. Again, that's a by road you

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can chase on your own. And then Paul

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second. And it's interesting and the

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body of Christ here in this passage. And

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it's interesting. And then John in

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Revelation 4:1, I believe the first

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verse of chapter chapter 4 of Revelation

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is synonymous, if you will, at least in

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concept with the rapture. And it's these

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last those four that are the word

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harpatsu is actually used if you will.

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But any we'll move on here.

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There's a verse there's a chapter in

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Revelation chapter 12 which is a summary

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of the history of Israel portrayed as a

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woman. The woman that gives birth to the

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manchild. That's not the church. It's

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interpreted for you by none other than

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Jacob or excuse me Isaac in in in

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Genesis 37.

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Um the the imagery there of the the sun

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and the moon and the stars is imagery

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drawn from the Torah. But she the woman

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in Revelation 12 is clearly Israel. And

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that should be very obvious when you

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study it carefully. But Israel then she

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the woman brings forth a manchild.

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That's obviously the Messiah who was to

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rule all the nations with a rod of iron.

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That label should identify him for you

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because he's used that way all through

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the Old Testament and new as an

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identity, if you will, of Jesus Christ

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to rule all the nations with the rod of

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iron. That's his child who's caught up

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into God and to his throne. When most of

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us read that summary in Revelation 12,

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we assume that what's in view there is

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the the uh ascension acts one, right?

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And it was GH Peber, I think, was one of

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the first scholars to suggest the

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possibility that that may not be what

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it's limited to. That it may also be

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descriptive of the body of Christ.

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You say, "Well, that's just one person

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caught up." No, the body of Christ is

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used singularly in the text. And it was,

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I think, J Peber that pointed out that

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that verse can simultaneously point to

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both of them. So, I mentioned that for

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your notes, and you can chase that down

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and come to your own conclusions. I

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think Pimber's right right on the money

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for a lot of reasons because the next

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verse verse 6 on talks about the

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tribulation

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and that also conforms to the pattern of

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Daniel 9 because after you've got the

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interval there that represents the

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church that's terminated then before the

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70th week can start.

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But be careful, don't presume that the

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70th week starts at the rapture. It's

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sometime after the rapture. And we'll

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show you that as we go forward here. But

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anyway, her child was caught up unto God

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in her throne and the term rapture we're

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dealing with there. So, so what's the

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purpose of all this? What's going on

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here? Well, 1 Corinthians 15, Paul deals

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with this in the in the most essential

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chapter according to Paul in the Bible.

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Because if you don't have chapter 15,

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you got nothing. Paul presents it that

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way. If you don't have the resurrection

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of all of us in your in your vocabulary,

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you've missed the point. is what Paul is

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trying to say in 1 Corinthians 15. It's

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a very very in fact we use the term

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gospel all the time. How many have heard

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the word gospel in a conversation? What

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is the gospel? Well, it's a good news.

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That's a copout. What is the gospel?

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Paul defines it in the first four verses

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of 1 Corinthians 15. How that Christ

20:39

died for our sins according to the

20:40

scriptures. He was buried and rose again

20:42

the third day. That's the gospel

20:44

according to Paul. What's astonishing is

20:47

you can find maybe one church in 10 that

20:49

preaches that in the United States.

20:52

They'll pre they'll preach about

20:53

everything else. All kinds of social

20:55

good things to do and and behave

20:58

yourselves and all that sort of stuff.

20:59

But what's the gospel? The gospel

21:02

Paul does not include Christ's

21:04

teachings. He doesn't include his

21:06

miracles. He doesn't include his

21:08

example. Those are all commenatory.

21:09

Don't misunderstand me. The gospel is

21:11

that Christ died for our sins according

21:14

to scripture. He didn't disappear. He

21:15

died. Best documented death in the

21:17

history of man. And he didn't just die.

21:19

He fulfilled hundreds of specific

21:22

specifications including his genealogy

21:24

and all the circumstances and all spell

21:26

out in the Old Testament in advance. He

21:28

died for our sins. Didn't just die. He

21:31

paid for you and me. And he was buried.

21:33

Only Paul emphasized that as a gospel

21:35

because he builds a thing on baptism

21:36

later.

21:38

And he rose again the third day

21:40

according to the scriptures. And the

21:41

assignment that I give you on your own

21:43

time, not my time, is show me where in

21:46

the old He's talking about the

21:47

scriptures, the Old Testament. Um, where

21:49

in the Old Testament does it predict

21:50

that Jesus will be in the grave three

21:52

days or raised on the third day. Where

21:54

does it say that? Well, there's Jonah

21:56

indeed because Jesus in Matthew 12:40

21:58

points you to that. So, that's cheating.

22:00

You got one of them. There are seven of

22:01

them. Find the others. The other place

22:04

is where the the third day thing is

22:07

tucked away in the text somewhere. So,

22:10

I'll leave that with you to play with in

22:11

your free time. Having done that, we'll

22:13

move on. Let's take a look what Paul is

22:15

saying here. Paul says, "Now this I say,

22:18

brethren,

22:19

that flesh and blood cannot inherit the

22:22

kingdom of God."

22:25

I almost put a period there and think

22:26

about that one. Flesh and blood cannot

22:29

inherit

22:31

the kingdom of God.

22:33

Neither do corruption inherit

22:36

incorruption.

22:38

In other words, they're antithetical.

22:42

Behold, I show you a mystery. Now, the

22:45

word in Greek, mysterion, is a little

22:47

more specialized, and we use the term

22:49

mystery with. Mysterion is something

22:52

that's been hidden up till now, and I'm

22:54

revealing it to you. It's sort of like

22:57

letting you know the password. You see,

23:00

we sometimes say a secret is something

23:02

you tell one person at a time. See?

23:03

Well, that's sort of the flavor here. I

23:06

be behold I show you a mystery. I'm

23:08

going to reveal something to you. We

23:10

shall not all sleep.

23:13

And he's using sleep here in the

23:14

euphemistic sense, meaning death. We

23:17

shall not all sleep, but we shall be

23:19

changed

23:21

in a moment,

23:23

in the twinkling of an eye at the last

23:26

trump.

23:28

For the trumpet shall sound, and the

23:31

dead shall be raised incorruptible,

23:33

and we shall be changed. For this

23:37

corruptible must put on incorruption,

23:39

and this mortal must put on immortality.

23:44

Wow.

23:46

Let's get back. In a moment, in the

23:48

twinkling of an eye, that's not a blink.

23:51

In the twinkling of an eye. What on

23:53

earth is the twinkling of an eye?

23:56

Let me give you an approach.

23:58

Take the speed of light

24:01

and see how long does it take to transit

24:05

the thickness of your iris.

24:09

And when you get that result, you'll

24:11

discover that's plank's constant.

24:14

It's the shortest unit of time possible.

24:16

It's 10 theus 43 seconds. In a moment,

24:20

in the twinkling of an eye, that's the

24:23

plank limit. 10 - 43 seconds. Those of

24:25

you that have mathematical skill can go

24:27

check that out if you like. Okay.

24:30

All righty. Now, so Paul continues, "So

24:34

when this corruptible shall have put on

24:36

incorruption, this mortal shall have put

24:38

on immortality, then shall be brought to

24:42

pass the saying, it is written." And by

24:45

the way, Paul is quoting three times

24:47

here from Greek poets, not from the

24:49

scripture. I know I think Paul's He's an

24:52

interesting guy. He had the best

24:54

schooling in in the uh Greek society and

24:58

obviously he was taught by Galio himself

25:00

in the as a Pharisee. So he has a br he

25:03

probably is one of the most brilliant

25:04

minds that ever walked the earth. His

25:07

book of Romans is the highest level of

25:09

logic you'll find anywhere in writing.

25:12

So don't be surprised. But anyway, he's

25:13

quoting here strangely enough from Greek

25:15

uh poets. Death is swallowed up in

25:17

victory. Oh death, where is thy sting?

25:19

Oh grave, where is thy victory?

25:22

And it's just a poetical plea, but it's

25:23

very colorful. The physics of

25:26

immortality, he talks and

25:28

dimensionality.

25:30

First John 3:2 that you might put that

25:32

in your notes or circulate on your

25:34

thing. You want to check that out

25:35

because John gives us a statement of

25:38

physics there. But also there is a term

25:42

that occurs twice in the Greek in the

25:44

Bible called okotarion.

25:47

We see it in two places. in 2

25:50

Corinthians 5:2 and the other one is in

25:53

Jude uh verse 6 I believe it is and it

25:57

only appears twice and we'll get to that

25:59

before the discussion goes on. Beloved,

26:02

now are we the sons of God and it does

26:03

not yet appear what we shall be but we

26:05

know that when he shall appear we shall

26:07

be like him for we shall see him as he

26:09

is. We are not going to it's not like a

26:12

photograph. If I hold up a photograph

26:13

I'm showing you a two-dimensional

26:15

representation of a three-dimensional

26:16

person. If I show you a hologram, I'm

26:20

showing a three-dimensional

26:21

representation of a threedimensional

26:23

person. What he's saying here, whatever

26:25

dimensionality Jesus enjoys, we will

26:28

also have because we won't see a

26:30

representation, we will see him. We

26:32

shall see him as he is.

26:36

Many people would miss this without some

26:37

mathematical background, but that's

26:38

really what what uh John is saying here.

26:42

But here's the 2 Corinthians 5:2, the

26:44

word otitarian occurs. If for we know

26:47

that if our earthly house of this

26:49

tabernacle were dissolved, what is he

26:51

talking about? My body. My physical

26:52

body. See, one of the things, let me

26:54

just pause here for a minute.

26:57

I'm sitting here looking at this

26:58

audience,

27:00

beloved, and I'm thrilled you're here,

27:02

but I have a grief because I can't see

27:05

you.

27:07

I can't really see you. I can see the

27:10

temporary physical residence you're

27:12

residing in.

27:14

The real you is not physical. Call it

27:17

soul, spirit, give it a fancy word to

27:19

hide the fact we're not sure what the

27:21

reality is, but the real you isn't

27:23

visible. It's residing in a body

27:27

and it's software, not hardware. I have

27:30

a computer up here and if you knew every

27:31

detail of every part in that computer,

27:34

you u would not be able to predict its

27:36

behavior. Why? Because it behavior is

27:39

determined by the software that's

27:40

resident in it.

27:42

And I can upgrade this computer a few

27:45

years, put a new one here, and

27:46

everything that's going on can go on on

27:48

a new one, maybe better in color,

27:50

whatever, you know, and so on.

27:52

Because the real personality, if I want

27:55

to call it that, is software, not

27:57

hardware. In fact, I can send it through

27:58

the airwaves.

28:00

I can take a disc that's blank and weigh

28:03

it. It's about 710 of an ounce, and I

28:04

can spend hundreds of dollars and load

28:06

it with a million bytes of software, and

28:08

it still weighs 710 of an ounce.

28:10

Software has no mass.

28:12

which means it has no time. There's no

28:15

time dimension.

28:17

So the real you is software, not

28:20

hardware.

28:21

The real you is eternal whether you're

28:23

saved or not. That's scary.

28:26

The issue is where you going to spend

28:27

it. If you're perfect, you can spend in

28:29

the presence of God. If you're not, too

28:32

bad. So that's a whole another story

28:34

we'll get into later. Anyway, I know

28:37

that this earthly house of this

28:39

tabernacle were dissolved. my hardware,

28:40

if you will. We have a building of God,

28:43

a house not made with hands, eternal in

28:46

the heavens. For in this we grown

28:48

earnestly desiring to be clothed upon

28:51

with our house which is from heaven. Now

28:54

what's interesting here, the word here

28:56

is okaran. It only occurs twice in

28:58

scripture.

29:00

The other place it occurs is it's the

29:02

body that the angels disrobe themselves

29:05

from in order to participate in the

29:08

mischief of Genesis chapter 6. That's

29:11

where the linkage is

29:13

in Jude verse chapter 1 verse 6. Jude is

29:15

only one chapter in in Jude verse 6.

29:19

Okotarian

29:20

I suspect that's a Greek technical term

29:22

that's more specific than we had

29:24

previously realized. It refers to the

29:28

embodiment that we aspire to

29:31

when we have our heavenly bodies. It's

29:34

the body that the angels disrobe from

29:36

that were up to mischief. In fact, in

29:38

Jude 6, here it is for you. And the

29:40

angels which kept not their first

29:42

estate, but left their own habitation,

29:44

he hath reserved in everlasting chains

29:46

under the darkness unto the judgment of

29:48

the great day. These are angels that are

29:51

being punished. Jude points that out in

29:53

second Peter chapter 2 deals with these

29:55

angels that indulged in mischief back in

29:58

Genesis chapter 6. And subsequently

30:01

again when Moses sends the spies into

30:05

the after the wilder sends the spies at

30:08

excuse me when Moses sends the spies at

30:10

Kadesh Barnea

30:12

uh they 10 of them come back and saying

30:14

there's giants in the land.

30:16

verse uh 33 of Numbers 13, it speaks of

30:20

the Nephilim that were in the land.

30:23

Satan had done another laid a minefield

30:25

down. He had 400 years to do that.

30:28

So anyway, um 2 Corinthians 5, for we

30:32

know that if our earthly house of this

30:34

tabernac were dissolved, we have a

30:35

building of God and house not made with

30:37

hands eternal in the heavens. For in

30:38

this we grown earnestly desiring to be

30:40

clothed with upon with our house which

30:42

is from heaven. If so be that being

30:46

clothed, we shall not be found naked.

30:50

That's the term being used.

30:53

That was Adam's discovery. When he

30:54

sinned, he was naked. Not in the sense

30:56

that we think of nakedness. He was no

30:58

longer clothed with light as the

31:00

scripture implies elsewhere.

31:03

Closed upon and so on. Anyways, let's

31:06

get back to the Jewish wedding here. The

31:07

categories of betrothe payment of a

31:10

purchase price set apart and sanctified.

31:12

The bridegroom departs to his father's

31:14

house, prepares the room edition. The

31:16

bride prepares for his eminent return

31:19

and we get we encounter this strange

31:22

thing that some people call the doctrine

31:24

of eminence. And it's a it's not really

31:27

an express command. It's just an

31:29

observation from a collection of

31:31

teachings.

31:33

The word eminent I mean by this word the

31:36

next expectation.

31:38

Not to be confused with two other words

31:40

that are very similar in their spelling.

31:43

Imminent in the sense that only God is

31:46

transcendent far above us. That's where

31:48

the I and an A and eminent is always

31:51

with us and active on our behalf. That's

31:53

what that word means. Nor should this

31:55

word be confused with eminent with an E

31:57

and an I. Uh which is a title of honor

32:00

reserved for persons of outstanding

32:01

distinction. Those are two words spelled

32:03

very similarly but mean something quite

32:05

different. eminent with I but both

32:08

beginning and in the middle there is the

32:10

next expectation

32:12

if something is imminent that means

32:14

there's no required intervening event

32:18

and it's it's the next thing to happen

32:20

so to speak so the doctrine of eminency

32:23

believers we we we assert that believers

32:26

are taught to expect the savior from

32:28

heaven at any moment you find that in

32:30

Philippians 3:20 Titus 2:13 Hebrews 9:28

32:34

1 Thessalonians 1:10 and 4 and and five

32:36

and Revelation 22. You can jot those

32:38

down, circle them in your notes and at

32:41

your leisure check it out. But you'll

32:42

discover those are just a few examples

32:46

uh seven actually uh examples of justify

32:51

our we are taught to expect Jesus before

32:54

this session's over,

32:57

before the weekend's over, whenever

32:59

it's the next thing to happen on

33:01

someone's agenda here. We are to expect

33:04

him at any moment.

33:06

That expresses hope in a warm spirit of

33:08

expect expectancy. That's the first

33:10

Thessalonians uh

33:13

one of those there. And it should result

33:16

then in a victorious and purified life.

33:18

If you really believe that and really

33:20

apply it to your walk, your walk will

33:22

improve. You're expecting him to show up

33:24

at any moment. He doesn't want to catch

33:27

you in some places that you don't want

33:29

him to find you at. Right?

33:31

So,

33:33

it's interesting that Paul included

33:35

himself among those who looked for

33:38

Christ's return in 1 Thessalonians 4 and

33:40

2 Thessalonians 2. You see, that's

33:42

Paul's tone. He had an expectation that

33:45

he might be alive when Jesus comes back.

33:48

And so, he and Timothy was admonished to

33:51

keep this commandment without spot

33:53

unbutable until the appearing of our

33:55

Lord Jesus Christ. See there again Paul

33:57

taught Timothy his protege to live his

34:01

life in momentby-moment expectation of

34:03

the Lord's return. That's what we call

34:05

the doctrine of eminency.

34:07

Jewish converts are reminded that yet a

34:09

little while and he shall he that shall

34:11

come will come and will not tar. That's

34:13

in Hebrews 10.

34:17

Jesus himself said occupy till I come.

34:21

People that get carried away with the

34:23

rapture. and we'll talk about that in a

34:24

minute.

34:26

Seemed to dismiss the fact that our our

34:28

command was to occupy,

34:31

not to put our feet on the desk and wait

34:32

for the Lord's return.

34:35

Daniel is a great example for us. He's

34:38

in slavery in Babylon. He knows that the

34:40

70 years captivity are almost over.

34:42

About 67 of the 70 have gone by. He

34:44

doesn't sit there, oh, I hardly wait if

34:46

you the captivity is almost over. No.

34:49

What does he do? He goes into prayer in

34:52

chapter nine. The first 20 verses of

34:54

chapter nine are not about the 70. He is

34:57

in prayer so intense that even in the

35:00

translation in your English translation

35:02

you can feel him tremble. As you read

35:05

those passage you'll see see the verbs

35:07

the pick up as he gets more and more

35:10

intense in his prayer in those 20

35:11

verses. And Gabriel interrupts that

35:14

comes and says by the way have I got a

35:15

message for you. He gives him those four

35:16

verses that we've been studying.

35:18

occupied. The expectations of some were

35:21

so strong back then that they had

35:24

stopped work and had to be exhorted.

35:26

That even was in Paul's day.

35:29

They had to return to their jobs in

35:31

second 2 Thessalonians 3 and to have

35:34

patience in James 5'8.

35:36

So that you know that expectation was

35:39

was had had overly applied so to speak.

35:43

So there are two extremes we encounter.

35:45

or one I call rapture itis and the other

35:48

one is rapture and that's rapture

35:50

paralysis. People who get so wrapped up

35:52

with the Lord's coming the day after

35:54

tomorrow. They don't do anything. They

35:57

park themselves and they become so

35:58

heavenly minded that they're no earthly

36:00

good as some people put it. And we'll

36:02

call that rapturitis for lack of another

36:04

term. And then the other aspect is

36:07

rapture mania. These are people that get

36:10

so wrapped up they're setting dates.

36:11

Now, there are dozens of admonitions not

36:14

to set dates

36:16

again and again and again and again, but

36:18

nevertheless, that doesn't hold some

36:20

people back from publishing books that

36:21

it's going to be, you know, on October

36:23

12th of year X or whatever. The date

36:26

setters, we'll talk a little bit about

36:28

them. Let's take the raptureitis. And

36:30

I'm going to suggest this may be just a

36:31

uniquely American dementia

36:34

because there are people in the states

36:35

that have that preoccupation. to which I

36:38

have a qu a question

36:41

just because I believe I can show you

36:43

from a text that the church will not go

36:45

through the great tribulation that's a

36:47

specific time

36:50

where do we as Americans get the

36:53

arrogance to assume we'll escape what

36:56

most of the body of Christ in most of

37:00

the world for most of the last 2,000

37:02

years have had to endure. It's called

37:04

persecution.

37:06

Don't confuse persecution which Jesus

37:08

promised us with a great tribulation a

37:11

specific event that we will spare be

37:13

spared from the time of we'll get into

37:16

that too before we're through here.

37:18

Well, we've got the date setters coming

37:19

that goes back to 1260. We find

37:22

publications where Yakima Flores

37:24

particular and milit of commerce in

37:26

1365, Joseph me in 1660, John Napier the

37:29

batheician that discovered logorithms

37:32

and he even was guilty of some of this

37:33

in 1698. Pierro of of France in 1689 and

37:38

on it goes with these guys all the way

37:41

through history. You find people setting

37:43

dates, sitting on the hill waiting for

37:45

the Lord to come back on that date they

37:47

were convinced for whatever reason was

37:48

the time William Miller and and he was

37:52

wrong in 1843 but then he revised it to

37:54

October 22nd of 1844. So he's correcting

37:57

for errors there I guess or something.

37:59

CT Russell wrote Wisan wrote a book 88

38:02

Reasons for 1988. That book is available

38:04

very expensively these days.

38:07

People say I I I'll get a letter from

38:10

someone that's predicting that that

38:13

Jesus is coming back you know in

38:15

November of this year. Would I evaluate

38:17

it? So I'll be glad to in December of

38:19

this year.

38:21

And so, uh, Harold Camping, I just put

38:24

the way he's been at it several times. I

38:26

I'm sparing some. And of course, with

38:28

2012 with the Mayan calendar, I keep

38:32

getting interviews. I several times a

38:35

week, we get somebody wants to interview

38:36

on the radio and I usually always have,

38:38

"What about the Mayan calendar?" I says,

38:40

"Do you know about the 45day error?"

38:43

What? You didn't know there's a 45day

38:45

error in the Yeah. The Mayan calendar

38:47

implies the world comes to an end on

38:48

December 21st of the year 2012.

38:51

And there's a 45day error because it

38:53

doesn't come to to end at the on

38:56

December 21st of 2012. It it comes to

38:59

the end on the 2nd November of uh second

39:03

Tuesday of November 2012. And it takes

39:06

about 10 seconds realize I'm talking

39:07

about the federal elections in the

39:08

United States.

39:10

And uh

39:12

Matthew 24:36, but of that day an hour

39:14

knoweth no man know not the angels of

39:16

heaven, but my father only.

39:19

In fact, by the way, another verse you

39:21

want to mark in your list here is Mark

39:23

13:32.

39:25

Mark's uh gospel, which is really

39:28

Peter's gospel, is almost identical with

39:30

Matthew, but there's one, this is one of

39:32

the places it's slightly different.

39:34

Matthew said, in Matthew, Jesus is

39:36

quoted as saying, "But if that day and

39:37

hour knoweth no man, know not the angels

39:38

of heaven, but my father only." Peter's

39:41

quote of that as recorded by Mark. But

39:44

if that day and hour knoweth no man, no,

39:47

not the angels of heaven, not the son,

39:50

but the father only. And it's a very

39:52

troubling verse to the theologians

39:54

because that implies at least at that

39:55

moment there was something the father

39:57

knew the son didn't. And that shatters

39:59

some of their presumptions here. They

40:02

need to reread more carefully the first

40:03

three verses of John. But we'll move on

40:05

here. Okay. Matthew 24:42. Watch

40:08

therefore, for ye know not what hour the

40:10

Lord doth come.

40:12

And uh Matthew 44, therefore be ye also

40:16

ready for in such an hour as ye think

40:18

not the son of man cometh.

40:22

And so if somebody's predicting a

40:24

particular date, you know that's not the

40:26

date

40:28

because such hours you think not the son

40:30

of man cometh. Now if you're sure that's

40:31

not the date, then that's probably the

40:32

date that he'll come. So I'll leave you

40:34

with that one logic to unravel. And then

40:36

of course you have Matthew 13. Watch

40:37

therefore, for we know neither the day

40:39

nor the hour wherein the son of man

40:41

cometh. And uh on it goes. So and

40:46

therefore be ready for son of man cometh

40:48

at an hour that you think now. And by

40:50

the way, see I'm convinced personally

40:53

that the reason the rapture is so

40:56

everything else in the scripture you can

40:57

somehow sequence. You can lay out it.

40:59

That's what we're studying this weekend.

41:02

But there's one thing that's the one

41:03

thing that's elusive. There's no clue as

41:06

to when it's going to be.

41:09

And I personally believe that's the

41:11

father's way of catching Satan by

41:14

surprise.

41:15

I think part of the strategy is to catch

41:17

Satan unawares because when the rapture

41:20

occurs then he's that opens a window of

41:23

time. He knows he has but a short time.

41:26

And so

41:28

people say do you know is the antichrist

41:29

alive today? Absolutely. No question

41:32

about it in my mind. Really? Yeah. If

41:35

you asked me that 100 years ago, I'd say

41:37

absolutely.

41:39

See, Satan's problem, he's has to have

41:41

his man in the wings because he doesn't

41:44

know when the rapture occurs. When the

41:46

rapture occurs, he's got to have his guy

41:48

positioned to pull off whatever he's

41:49

going to try to pull off. And so, uh,

41:52

that's part of I think that's part of

41:54

the strategy here to catch Satan by

41:57

surprise.

41:58

And, uh, when when Jesus is ready to

42:00

ascend, they say, "Are you now going to

42:01

set up the kingdom?" We'll talk about

42:02

the kingdom. in the subsequent session.

42:06

So, it's not for you to know the times

42:08

and the seasons which the father put in

42:09

his own power. He doesn't say he's not

42:10

going to set up the kingdom. In fact, he

42:11

confirms that he will, but the timing is

42:15

not their business.

42:17

So, that leads to the second coming.

42:19

Now, something else, if you want to

42:21

check some of these things, you can find

42:23

passages that describe the second

42:26

coming. And I've listed them for you in

42:28

your notes, so you don't have to bother

42:30

scribbling them all down now. you're in

42:31

possession of them in your handout

42:33

there. And these are all verses that if

42:35

you read describe what apparently we

42:38

would call to be more specific, let's be

42:40

precise, the second coming of Christ.

42:43

And uh if you look at all of these, they

42:46

all have something in common. I'll show

42:47

I'll summarize them for you here in a

42:49

minute. And so these are verses that

42:52

describe what you and I will label the

42:54

second coming. He comes in power to take

42:56

control and uh and start running things.

43:01

There are another collection of verses.

43:04

John 14, we just looked at 1 Corinthians

43:06

15, we've just looked at 1 Thessalonians

43:08

4. And there are a whole bunch of others

43:12

that describe something that is quite

43:14

different than the second coming. And

43:18

I'll summarize these sub summary slide

43:20

here in a minute, but these are all you

43:22

can look them up and come to your own

43:24

conclusions. Don't, for heaven's sakes,

43:27

don't accept it because I say so. That's

43:29

that's the real thing we're trying to

43:31

get you to do is you do your own

43:32

homework here. Come to your own

43:34

conclusions. But these describe an event

43:37

that is distinct from the ones that I

43:39

just showed you in the previous slide.

43:41

And let's let's go look at there's two

43:43

events. One I'm going to call for lack

43:44

of another term the ra the rapture. I

43:46

should say harpato, but okay, we'll

43:48

we'll yield to the common vocabulary.

43:51

And the other second coming

43:53

in the rapture there's a translation of

43:55

believers. There their their physics are

43:57

changed.

43:59

In the second coming, there's no

44:00

translation involved.

44:02

There's no translation.

44:04

Those that are spiritually dead are

44:06

judged a thousand years later at the

44:08

great white throne.

44:10

And the rapture is translated saints go

44:12

to heaven. We just saw that, right? And

44:16

second coming, there's no translated

44:18

saints returning. The the translated

44:20

saints are coming back to the earth with

44:22

him.

44:23

It's a different deal. Rapture of the

44:26

earth isn't judged. The second coming,

44:27

that's what it's all about.

44:31

Rapture is eminent. Could happen any

44:32

moment. The second coming follows

44:35

definite predicted signs.

44:39

Donald Ray Barnhouse used to come to the

44:41

office with his students there and he'd

44:42

say, "Sad day, sad day. Jesus can't come

44:44

back today." That was his way of

44:46

needling the post-tribulation guys that

44:48

are around him because that they have

44:50

all these things that have to happen

44:52

before the rapture. know the rapture is

44:54

not in the Old Testament according to

44:56

conventional wisdom. I'm going to

44:57

puncture that one here before we're

44:58

through, but that's the common wisdom.

45:00

And second coming is predicted in the

45:02

Old Testament. Obviously, the rapture

45:04

they the Dallas theologians say is not

45:07

in there. I'm going to show you some

45:08

things. You can judge that yourself. The

45:10

rapture is involves believers only.

45:14

The second coming affects everybody on

45:16

the earth. Every eye shall see him.

45:19

Okay?

45:21

The rapture comes before the day of

45:22

wrath and the second coming concludes

45:24

the day of wrath. He interrupts it with

45:26

by interrupting garaged and all that.

45:29

The rapture has no reference to Satan

45:30

and the second coming, Satan's bound for

45:32

a thousand years. His two side kicks get

45:36

thrown into Gehana and a thousand years

45:39

later when Satan is released and then

45:41

captured again, he joins them. But

45:43

they've been there a thousand years by

45:44

then.

45:46

Rapture, he comes for his own. second

45:49

coming he comes with his own. There's a

45:52

distinction there that you have to

45:53

reconcile

45:55

and rapture he comes in the air but in

45:58

the second coming he comes to the earth.

46:00

In fact, it splits under his foot.

46:03

He claims his bride in the rapture and

46:05

he comes with his bride in the second

46:07

coming. They're distinctive in that

46:09

regard.

46:10

The rapture said we only his own see

46:12

him. Second coming every eye shall see

46:15

him. They're distinctive. The scripture

46:18

clearly separates them into two groups.

46:21

The rapture, the great tribulation

46:23

begins. That's not technically quite

46:24

right. There could be some 30, 40 years

46:26

between the rapture and when the great

46:28

trib starts. But the point is the

46:30

rapture occurs before the great

46:31

tribulation. And of course, second

46:33

coming is when the millennium begins.

46:36

And uh rapture has church believers

46:38

only, but the second coming, the old

46:39

testament are say the old testament

46:42

saved are raised later. And there's some

46:43

theologians have a different view, but

46:45

there are some theologians that make the

46:46

case that the Old Testament saints are

46:48

raised at the second coming, not at the

46:51

rapture. It's the dead in Christ in a in

46:53

in a denotative sense that's involved.

46:55

But that's a debate among some of the

46:57

knowledgeable scholars who let that go.

47:00

Anyway, the marriage is fulfilled. The

47:02

covenant was established in 1

47:03

Corinthians 11, the purchase price in 1

47:05

Corinthians 6, the bride set apart in

47:06

Ephesians 5 and following. And they're

47:09

reminded of the covenant in 1

47:10

Corinthians 11. Just a recap of what we

47:12

said before. And so the and the

47:14

bridegroom is left for the father's

47:16

house. He declares that in in Hosea

47:18

5:15.

47:20

And uh the escort accompany him to uh

47:23

upon his return to gather his bride. So

47:26

that gets to a term that is sloppily

47:28

used among many prophecy buffs, the

47:30

great tribulation. That is not

47:32

persecution in general. It's a specific

47:34

period of time that Jesus himself labels

47:38

it. It's defined by Jesus by quoting

47:41

from Daniel 12. And we'll see that

47:44

modeled here in a minute. And u he says,

47:48

"For then shall be great tribulation.

47:50

Such was not since the beginning of the

47:52

world to this time, no, nor ever shall

47:54

be." That's a terrifying statement

47:56

because behind it is the Holocaust of

47:59

Germany.

48:00

That's not what he's talking about. It's

48:02

one that's even worse is the point.

48:05

The Holocaust in Germany took about one

48:08

Jew and three.

48:11

The Holocaust according to Zechariah 13

48:15

verse9. The next one, the big one will

48:18

take two out of three.

48:20

That isn't Chuck Mister said that. It's

48:22

Zechariah said that. I quoted that on

48:24

the radio once and the anti-Defamation

48:26

League put me as a anti-semite on their

48:29

list of anti-semites. I think it's been

48:31

corrected now, but except those days

48:34

should be shortened, there should no

48:35

flesh be saved. But for the elect's

48:37

sake, those days shall be shortened.

48:39

That's a time of trouble. That's pretty

48:42

hairy.

48:44

I don't think we can really embrace

48:46

understand what that's really all about.

48:48

The time of Jacob's trouble. That's the

48:50

label that uh Jeremiah uses. He calls it

48:52

the time of see the focus of it is of

48:54

course Israel, but it's worldwide.

48:57

But here's the quote that Jesus draws on

48:59

when he labels the faith in Daniel 12:1

49:02

says, "At that time shall Michael stand

49:03

up, the great prince which standeth for

49:05

the children of thy people. And there

49:07

shall be a time of trouble such as never

49:10

since there was a nation even to that

49:12

same time." And at that time thy people

49:14

shall be delivered, every one that shall

49:16

be found written in the book.

49:18

So time of Jacob's trouble, that's

49:21

Jeremiah's phrase. Alas, for the day is

49:24

great, so that none is like it. It is

49:25

even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he

49:27

shall be saved out of it. That's that's

49:29

where we get that label is from the

49:30

Jeremiah quote 37. And uh Jesus has a

49:36

similar kind of illusion when he's

49:38

riding that donkey that we looked at

49:41

previously. He's riding that donkey into

49:43

Jerusalem. He says, "Oh Jerusalem," and

49:45

he's weeping over the city. And he says,

49:48

"Oh Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that

49:50

klest the prophets and stonest them that

49:52

are sent unto thee, how often would I

49:55

have gathered thy children together,

49:58

even as a hen gatherth her chickens

50:01

under her wings?"

50:03

That's what some people call the purpose

50:04

of all history. That's the purpose of

50:07

all history.

50:09

That I would have gathered thy children

50:10

together, even as a hen gather chickens

50:12

under her wings. The tragedy of all

50:15

history is when occurs. They didn't

50:17

accept it and you would not.

50:22

Behold, your house is left unto you

50:24

desolate.

50:26

Wow. For I say unto you, ye shall not

50:29

see me henceforth until ye shall say,

50:32

blessed is he that cometh in the name of

50:33

the Lord. And that will be the triumph

50:35

of all history. in verses in chapter in

50:38

the last few verses of Matthew 23, you

50:41

have the purpose, the tragedy of and

50:43

triumph of all history summarized by the

50:45

Lord himself. And he ought to know

50:49

in Hosea 5:15 is one of my most

50:51

provocative verses. It's the last verse

50:52

of that chapter. God says, "I will go

50:55

and return to my place." That's a

50:59

strange phrase

51:01

to return

51:02

to his place. He must have left his

51:04

place. You can't return if you haven't

51:07

left. I will go and return to my place

51:10

until. I encourage you sometime to get a

51:13

notebook and collect all the untils in

51:16

the Bible.

51:17

Not all of them, but most of them are a

51:19

milestone of some kind. This and that

51:21

until that. And there you can I will go

51:24

and return to my place until they

51:27

acknowledge their offense. That's

51:29

singular and specific. What offense does

51:32

Jesus have in mind here? the rejection

51:34

of him as a Messiah. I will go and

51:36

return to my place till they acknowledge

51:38

their offense and seek my face. In their

51:42

affliction, they will seek me earnestly.

51:46

The purpose of the great tribulation is

51:48

to drive them to the wall till they

51:51

yield and repent.

51:53

Satan's strategy is to get them wiped

51:55

out before that happens.

51:57

There is a preceded condition to the

52:00

second coming. There's no preceding

52:02

condition for the rapture that can

52:03

happen before this meeting is over.

52:07

But there is

52:09

a preceding condition to the second

52:11

coming. And that's for Israel's to

52:13

petition. That's what chapter six of

52:14

Hosea is all about. I will go and return

52:17

to my place till they acknowledge their

52:18

friends in seek my face in their

52:20

affliction. They will seek me earnestly.

52:22

Satan's strategy apparently is to wipe

52:24

out the remnant before that happens. his

52:28

way, his his scheme to thwart the plan

52:30

of God.

52:32

Well, the body of Christ, that's a term

52:34

we use. The New Testament portrays the

52:37

church in the in the idiom of a bride.

52:42

Paul even quotes Genesis 2:24. For this

52:45

cause shall a man leave his his his

52:48

father and mother, cleave to his wife.

52:51

The union mar has a concept of leaving

52:53

as well as cleaving.

52:56

And uh

52:58

the church is expressly exempted from

53:00

God's wrath in 1 Thessalonians 5:9 and

53:03

Revelation 3:10. You can circle those

53:05

two. And the church is expressly

53:08

exempted not just from God's wrath, but

53:10

from the time of that wrath. Very

53:13

important important issue.

53:18

There's a very interesting phrase in

53:20

both Matthew 11. It's also occurs in

53:23

Luke 16.

53:26

Um, and Luke 7 here too, Jesus says,

53:29

"Verily, I say unto you, among them that

53:31

are born of women, there hath not risen

53:34

a greater than John the Baptist."

53:37

Now, wait a minute. That's quite a

53:39

statement. He's obviously exempting

53:40

himself, the Messiah, in that phrase, of

53:42

course, but he's saying, "Among them

53:44

that are born of women, there hath not

53:46

risen a greater than John the Baptist."

53:48

That's a pretty incredible appellation

53:51

to John the Baptist, right? in his next

53:53

breath just after a semicolon if I can

53:56

put it that way. Notwithstanding

54:00

he that is least in the kingdom of

54:02

heaven is greater than he.

54:07

What on earth does that mean?

54:10

You discover that both in Matthew 11 and

54:12

Luke 16, it's followed up in a phrase or

54:15

two by the Lord saying the law and the

54:17

prophets were until John. what he's what

54:21

I'm pointing out that Jesus was a

54:23

dispensationalist

54:25

and I'm not being flippant. I am a

54:27

little bit but still the whole idea that

54:29

there is a dispensation

54:32

and the Old Testament is closed. What

54:34

closed the Old Testament? It wasn't

54:35

Malachi the Italian book

54:38

Malachi.

54:39

No, that's the last book in our in our

54:41

in our collection of the Old Testament.

54:44

No, the Old Testament is closed by John

54:46

the Baptist. He's part of that old

54:48

dispensation.

54:50

He's a friend of the bridegroom. He's

54:51

not the part of the bride.

54:54

Oo,

54:56

be careful here, huh? We're going to

54:58

discover there's three kinds of saints

55:00

at least. There are Old Testament saints

55:02

like John the Baptist and prior.

55:05

There are the church, obviously, that

55:07

Paul illuminates so handsomely in 14 of

55:09

his epistles.

55:11

And there are the what we call the

55:13

tribulation saints, saints that come to

55:15

belief after the rapture. They're saved,

55:17

but they are a different group,

55:19

different breed, if you will.

55:22

We need to be sensitive to that because

55:24

many people when it says the elect get

55:27

confused. There's places the elect can

55:29

refer to the Old Testament because

55:31

they're elected.

55:33

Refers to the church, of course, because

55:34

they're elected. It's also those that

55:37

are saved after. See in in both uh

55:41

Matthew 11:13 and Luke 166 for the all

55:44

the prophets in the law prophesied until

55:47

John. John's the rapper of the Old

55:49

Testament.

55:51

Interesting,

55:52

profound, fundamental.

55:55

Not all saints are alike. The Old

55:58

Testament saints are obviously

56:00

Noah, Abraham. You can make your list.

56:04

The church of course is a distinctive

56:06

group. In fact, so distinctive that it

56:08

blew the mind of Paul who is a trained

56:10

Pharisee. He understood that the Holy

56:13

Spirit came and went with Saul and

56:15

others. The fact that the church is

56:19

given the beneficiary of a condition

56:22

that is staggering to John. That's

56:24

that's why Paul has such trouble getting

56:26

across the answer because we don't

56:28

understand the question he's asking. How

56:30

can that be? No, the Holy Spirit's given

56:32

without repentance.

56:34

If you got the Holy Spirit, it's not

56:35

taken away. You might be taken out of

56:37

the ballgame, but he's not taken away

56:38

from you. You're sealed by the Holy

56:40

Spirit. That was a concept that blew

56:42

Paul's mind and he tries to get across

56:44

in Ephesians and other some of his other

56:46

letters. Now, the church enjoys it, but

56:48

that has a terminus when the the Holy

56:51

Spirit is removed in the sense that he's

56:53

embodied in those believers.

56:56

Well, how do people come to faith after

56:59

the rapture? By the Holy Spirit. But

57:01

he's operating in a different modality.

57:03

He's operating like he did in the Old

57:04

Testament.

57:06

And um and we so we have we call those

57:09

after the rapture those are saved but

57:10

after rapture the tribulation saints.

57:12

Now there there's a term we use just

57:13

meaning that they're say they came to

57:15

faith after the harbatzo

57:18

that's why presumably it's during the

57:20

tribulation. In Daniel chapter 7

57:24

there is a a passage that deals with the

57:27

antichrist.

57:29

And Daniel says, "I beheld the same

57:30

horn," meaning this antichrist character

57:33

made war with the saints and prevailed

57:36

against them. Very strange phrase in

57:39

Daniel 7.

57:42

When you get to um

57:45

Revelation 13:7,

57:47

speaking of the Antichrist again, it

57:49

says, "And it was given unto him to make

57:51

war with the saints and to overcome

57:54

them. and power was given him over all

57:57

kindreds and tongues and nations. So

58:00

again, that's an antichrist thing in

58:02

which he prevails over the saints. You

58:03

with me so far? Both Daniel 7 and

58:06

Revelation 13:7 have that same illusion

58:10

there. Prevail or overcome.

58:14

In Matthew 16 at Cesaria Philippi,

58:18

Jesus says, that's a famous declaration

58:20

of Peter, whom who do you say I am? You

58:22

thou the Christ and so forth. He says,

58:23

'I say unto thee that thou art Peter and

58:26

upon this rock I will build my church

58:28

and the gates of hell shall not prevail

58:31

against it. The word prevail, same word.

58:35

These contradict each other.

58:38

Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 implies that

58:40

the Antichrist is going to succeed over

58:42

the saints.

58:44

Matthew 16 speaks of a group of saints

58:46

that shall not be conquered, will not

58:49

prevail against it. What does that tell

58:52

you? that they're in a different

58:53

category. These are not all in the same

58:55

category. That's the point I'm trying to

58:56

make here.

58:59

See, the saints that are saints after

59:01

the rapture of the church has been taken

59:03

up are called tribulation saints. And uh

59:06

and they they they're going to have some

59:08

some challenges.

59:10

And the word prevailed, overcome, and

59:13

prevail is the same vocabulary here. And

59:16

that that's one of the several it's not

59:18

the only basis but it's the simplest one

59:20

to get across is that there are

59:22

different categories if you will. Now

59:25

there are old testament patterns. We

59:26

have Enoch in the flood of Noah. How

59:29

many people were spared in the flood of

59:31

Noah? Anyone?

59:34

How many? We had flood of Noah. Judgment

59:36

on the earth. How many were saved?

59:38

Eight. Four got Noah and his three sons

59:40

and their four wives. That's eight.

59:42

Wrong. You've overlooked somebody. What

59:45

about Enoch?

59:47

Well, he was removed before. Absolutely.

59:50

That's the point. There were nine. When

59:52

somebody asks you that question, say

59:53

nine, and you'll catch him by surprise.

59:56

Okay. And so, what about Isaac's absence

1:00:00

after his offering? It's interesting

1:00:02

that when after the on the oidal, when

1:00:05

they're up there in the hill and and at

1:00:07

the last minute, God substitutes a ram,

1:00:09

right? We get to verse 19 of Genesis 22.

1:00:12

It says, "Abraham went down and joined

1:00:14

the two men and the donkey and they went

1:00:16

home.

1:00:18

Where is Isaac?"

1:00:20

He obviously went with him and they all

1:00:21

went home. But that's not what the text

1:00:22

says. You'll discover the person of

1:00:25

Isaac is edited out of the record from

1:00:27

the time that he's offered until the

1:00:29

time he's united with his bride two

1:00:31

chapters later. Chapter 24: 62. So that

1:00:35

modeling the hol what fascinates me is

1:00:38

the Holy Spirit even ddles with the

1:00:39

text. So, it doesn't do violence with

1:00:42

what it says. And yet, it fits the

1:00:43

model.

1:00:45

And that's why that's why God was so

1:00:47

upset with Moses when he didn't when he

1:00:49

hit the rock the second time. If he done

1:00:51

what God told him to do, it would have

1:00:53

modeled the first and second coming of

1:00:54

Christ. And and and Moses let them think

1:00:58

God was angry. He wasn't angry. So, he's

1:01:01

after 120 years, he's put in the penalty

1:01:04

box. He spends 40 years in Egypt,

1:01:08

kills the Egyptian, splits, he spends 40

1:01:10

years in the in the backside of Midian,

1:01:13

married to Vonte Carlo there. You know,

1:01:14

you all seen the movie. And uh then 40

1:01:18

years wandering in the wilderness. He's

1:01:20

been serving for 120 years. And he blows

1:01:23

it at Refodm that second time where God

1:01:27

says, "Speak to the rock and I'll give

1:01:28

you the water." And he hits it with a

1:01:29

stick. You've misre misrepresented me.

1:01:32

But he also has punctured the model. So

1:01:34

he's out of the ball game.

1:01:37

It's not a ball game. Ruth during the

1:01:39

thrashing floor scene, Ruth is sitting

1:01:41

at the feet of Boaz. That's all these

1:01:43

are patterns in the Old Testament that a

1:01:45

Jewish mind will pick up right away.

1:01:48

They all justify the whole the patterns

1:01:51

we're talking about. And so you can

1:01:53

search those out. And then of course

1:01:54

Daniel's absence from the fiery furnace.

1:01:56

That's another one people miss.

1:01:58

Remember Daniel chapter 2, that

1:02:00

incredible time where this young guy

1:02:02

young guy explains to the the king

1:02:04

Nebuchadnezzar what his dream was. How

1:02:06

did he know? Tell him his dream and

1:02:08

interprets it for him. Nebuchadnezzar is

1:02:10

really impressed. So he boosts this

1:02:12

young guy and his three friends into a

1:02:15

position of stature which you know went

1:02:17

over big with the staff. The existing

1:02:20

staff thought that they they're just

1:02:23

waiting for their chance to set these

1:02:25

young guys clock.

1:02:28

And so we have the whole fiery furnace

1:02:30

episode where these three guys are put

1:02:32

in the fiery they're they're uh falsely

1:02:35

accused and then they're thrown in the

1:02:37

fiery furnace. And you read that whole

1:02:39

episode, you forget to ask, wait a

1:02:41

minute, where's Daniel? You got a couple

1:02:43

of choices. Daniel bowed. Well, they

1:02:45

didn't. No. Not no chance of that. Well,

1:02:47

if Daniel didn't bow, then he should be

1:02:49

with them. No, because he wasn't around.

1:02:52

We don't know. We presume he was on some

1:02:55

errand for the king. He was absent. And

1:02:56

that's why the staff took advantage of

1:02:58

that to nail these three guys with false

1:03:00

accusations and try to get them out of

1:03:02

the picture. The interesting thing of

1:03:04

the fiery furnace episode in Daniel

1:03:06

chapter 3 is where's Daniel?

1:03:09

Well, he's on a errand, but he's also

1:03:12

noticeably from a a Jewish pattern point

1:03:14

of view, he's not involved. He's been

1:03:16

removed from the from that challenge.

1:03:19

The fiery furnace is a model of the

1:03:21

tribulation.

1:03:22

The three young men are not spared the

1:03:25

furnace. They're just not hurt by the

1:03:27

furnace. They're they're spared through

1:03:29

the experience.

1:03:30

But there's one that isn't even around.

1:03:33

And that's where most scholars begin to

1:03:35

re see Daniel as a type, if I may use

1:03:38

that term, of the church.

1:03:41

And so all these are examples of Old

1:03:43

Testament patterns that, you know, that

1:03:45

um that conform to verse 26 of Daniel 9,

1:03:49

that interval where Israel and the

1:03:51

church are used mutually exclusively.

1:03:54

And so there are three groups of people

1:03:56

that were facing the flood of Noah.

1:03:59

The flood's coming. It was not a

1:04:01

surprise, by the way. It was preached on

1:04:02

for four generations.

1:04:05

But then Enoch was told that as long as

1:04:07

his son is alive, it won't come until

1:04:09

he's dead. So he names him Methuselah,

1:04:11

which means his death shall bring. And

1:04:13

uh but the three groups facing the flood

1:04:15

of Noah, those that perished in the

1:04:16

flood, a whole bunch of people, millions

1:04:20

probably

1:04:22

perished in the flood. God decided to

1:04:24

start over because the the human genome

1:04:27

had been corrupted by these this angel

1:04:30

mischief going on.

1:04:33

those that were preserved through the

1:04:34

flood. There were at least those four

1:04:36

people, excuse me, those four those

1:04:38

eight people, the four guys and their

1:04:40

four wives that apparently were not

1:04:42

tarnished by the the genome problem.

1:04:45

That doesn't mean they were the only

1:04:46

ones, but we know that they were

1:04:47

distinctive because verse 9 in Genesis 6

1:04:50

says that they were without tamim.

1:04:52

That's a physical defect of the

1:04:54

genealogy.

1:04:56

And so they were preserved through the

1:04:57

flood.

1:04:59

And then there are those that were

1:05:00

removed prior to the flood. Enoch. So

1:05:04

that in that sense, Enoch is a type of

1:05:07

the church.

1:05:10

I want to show you three passages

1:05:13

and you come to your own conclusions.

1:05:15

These three passages are in the Old

1:05:17

Testament.

1:05:19

And I suspect it's possible that they

1:05:22

may be illusions

1:05:24

of the um the rapture in the Old

1:05:28

Testament.

1:05:29

Let me take Isaiah 26 first. And if you

1:05:32

look this up in your Bible, start early.

1:05:34

Go a few verses beforehand, you'll

1:05:35

discover the context of this is a woman

1:05:37

in travail, interestingly enough. But

1:05:39

let's just pick it up here at verse 19.

1:05:41

Isaiah reads as follows. Thy dead men

1:05:43

shall live. Together with my dead body

1:05:46

shall they arise. This is Isaiah

1:05:48

talking, right? Woo. We

1:05:51

But together with my dead body shall

1:05:53

they arise. Awake and sing ye that dwell

1:05:55

in the dust, for thy do as the do of

1:05:59

herbs, and the earth shall cast out the

1:06:02

dead. Come, my people,

1:06:06

enter thou into thy chambers,

1:06:10

shut thy doors about thee, and hide

1:06:12

thyself as it were, for a little moment,

1:06:15

until the indignation be overpassed.

1:06:20

For behold, the Lord cometh out of his

1:06:22

place to punish the inhabitants of the

1:06:25

earth for their iniquity.

1:06:27

And the earth also shall disclose her

1:06:30

blood and shall no more cover her slain.

1:06:35

Wow.

1:06:37

I'm sorry.

1:06:39

Read that after John 14 verse 1:3.

1:06:44

Come my people, enter thou in thy

1:06:46

chambers. I go to prepare a place for

1:06:47

you. thy father's house, many mansions.

1:06:50

I go to prepare a place for you. Enter

1:06:52

thou in thy chambers, and shut thy doors

1:06:54

about thee, and hide thyself for a

1:06:56

little moment, until the indignation be

1:07:00

passed. I hear great tribulation there.

1:07:04

For behold, the Lord cometh out of his

1:07:06

place to punish the inhabitants of the

1:07:07

earth for their iniquity. The earth also

1:07:09

shall disclose her blood, and shall no

1:07:12

more cover her slain. That's a

1:07:15

resurrection.

1:07:17

However you want to slice it.

1:07:20

Okay, let's take a look at another one.

1:07:21

This is Zephaniah chapter 2:3. Just a

1:07:23

little phrase. Zephania says, "Seek ye

1:07:26

the Lord, all ye meek of the earth,

1:07:28

which have wrought his judgment. Seek

1:07:31

righteousness, seek meekness.

1:07:34

It may be ye shall be hid in the day of

1:07:38

the Lord's anger."

1:07:41

What's all that about?

1:07:43

You decide.

1:07:45

One more if I may. Psalm 27:5. A little

1:07:49

illusion.

1:07:51

Notice what the psalmist says in Psalm

1:07:53

27. For in the time of trouble he shall

1:07:57

hide me in his pavilion.

1:08:01

In the secret of his tabernacle shall he

1:08:04

hide me.

1:08:09

He shall set me up on a what? A rock.

1:08:14

and understand how universally that term

1:08:17

is used by the Holy Spirit cover to

1:08:18

cover of none other than the stone which

1:08:22

the builders rejected. It's become the

1:08:24

headstone of the corner.

1:08:26

Well, anyway, okay, we got some problems

1:08:28

in all of this. There's a problem lying

1:08:30

behind all of this that we'll take up

1:08:31

more later, but I want to hit it here

1:08:33

while we're at it.

1:08:35

A a disease that has infected the church

1:08:38

since the first century.

1:08:40

The church became very anti-Semitic and

1:08:42

out of that came a viewpoint that's

1:08:44

known as amalennialism a denial that the

1:08:47

millennium is serious or ser literal and

1:08:50

this it it impacts the subject at hand.

1:08:53

Will the church enter the tribulation?

1:08:54

That's a big debate among knowledgeable

1:08:57

Christians. So understand there are good

1:09:00

scholars that don't agree with some of

1:09:02

the things I'm sharing with you here.

1:09:05

The return of Christ to rule. Let's

1:09:07

start with that. There are 1845

1:09:10

references to the return of Christ to

1:09:12

rule in the Old Testament. Those are not

1:09:15

trivial and you've got to deal with

1:09:17

every one of those if you're going to be

1:09:18

alillennial.

1:09:20

17 books give promise to the event and

1:09:23

318 references in the New Testament talk

1:09:26

about Christ returning to rule on the

1:09:27

planet earth. 216 chapters 23 of the 27

1:09:31

books give promise to that very event in

1:09:34

the New Testament.

1:09:36

For every prophecy of Christ's first

1:09:38

coming, you can find seven or eight of

1:09:39

them for his second coming. Were the

1:09:42

prophecies of the first coming fulfilled

1:09:44

literally? Absolutely.

1:09:47

Will the prophecies of his second coming

1:09:48

be fulfilled literally? Absolutely.

1:09:51

Well, that gives you a problem if you're

1:09:52

a millennial because you've got to

1:09:54

allegorize

1:09:55

most of those 1845 references in the Old

1:09:59

Testament. In others, where did a

1:10:01

millennialism come from? a guy by the

1:10:04

name of Oregon,

1:10:05

he developed a hermeneutics, a theory of

1:10:08

interpretation that treated scriptures

1:10:10

just allegorories, colorful legends, but

1:10:12

they have they're useful for teaching,

1:10:14

but they're not real. You know,

1:10:18

unfortunately, he's his views get picked

1:10:20

up by Gab Augustine

1:10:23

and out of Augustine, we have

1:10:24

amalillennialism

1:10:26

and that becomes the foundation for the

1:10:28

Catholic Church, the Roman Catholic

1:10:30

Church. Their esquetology is amalennial.

1:10:33

And when we have a reformation occur,

1:10:35

fantastic.

1:10:37

These people in the reformation

1:10:39

willingly were burned at the stake for

1:10:42

their commitment to satiology

1:10:44

by faith alone. So by by scripture alone

1:10:48

solo scriptor

1:10:51

fantastic history changed the course of

1:10:54

the world. I'm not here to demean what

1:10:56

they did. Don't misunderstand me.

1:10:57

Phenomenal. However, they didn't go far

1:11:01

enough. They re getting the scriptures

1:11:04

in the hand thanks to the Gutenberg

1:11:05

Bible and silver. They were able to

1:11:06

discover the scriptures and they

1:11:07

understood they got their theory of

1:11:09

salvation correct and they clung to it.

1:11:12

They didn't go further and re-examine

1:11:15

their esquetology.

1:11:16

So, the denominations that come out of

1:11:18

the reformation, which are many of the

1:11:21

prominent denominations to this day,

1:11:23

still carry a history of an almillennial

1:11:26

perspective of scripture. Well, that's

1:11:28

just Revelation 20. That's just an

1:11:30

allegory. No, it isn't. Most of what we

1:11:33

know about the millennium doesn't come

1:11:34

out of Revelation 20. It comes out of

1:11:35

Isaiah 65 and 66 and others.

1:11:39

See, the Reformation failed to address

1:11:42

esquetology.

1:11:43

And most Protestant denominations are

1:11:45

amillennial and post and thus

1:11:48

post-tribulational in their

1:11:49

esqueological views. You just be be

1:11:51

aware of that. You don't have to

1:11:53

disagree or agree with it. Just

1:11:54

understand that is their view. You want

1:11:56

to check it with scripture and you'll

1:11:58

you'll discover that in the Christian

1:12:00

community there is a subset a minority

1:12:04

that take the Bible seriously and they

1:12:06

get labeled fundamentalists.

1:12:09

Now a millennial has some problems.

1:12:11

There are messianic promises throughout

1:12:13

the Old Testament you've got to

1:12:15

allegorize and some of them are really

1:12:17

torturous.

1:12:19

You know there's a expression in the

1:12:21

computer industry if you torture the

1:12:23

data long enough it'll it'll confess to

1:12:25

anything.

1:12:27

So the destiny of Israel in God's

1:12:30

covenant. That's why it's you'll notice

1:12:33

people who take the Bible literally are

1:12:35

also people that are pro-Israel.

1:12:38

When people start quarreling well is it

1:12:39

Jew or is it Israeli? Is it there's a

1:12:41

difference there? Those are people that

1:12:43

you'll discover are anti-semitic in

1:12:45

their roots.

1:12:48

the promise given to Mary by the angel

1:12:51

Gabriel

1:12:53

in in in Luke chapter 1 verse 32.

1:12:57

Gabriel tells Mary that her child is

1:12:59

going to sit on the throne of David

1:13:01

promises that there was no throne of

1:13:04

David in those days. Rule ran things.

1:13:06

Did Jesus ever sit on the throne of

1:13:07

David? No. Will he? Absolutely.

1:13:11

We'll talk a lot about that especially

1:13:12

in session six.

1:13:15

And of course, there's numerous

1:13:16

reconfirmation of each of these things

1:13:17

in the New Testament. These aren't just

1:13:19

Old Testament ideas. The amalennial

1:13:21

problems occur in the New Testament

1:13:23

because anyway, the point is if you go

1:13:26

through the divisions of theology, go to

1:13:28

any pastor's bookshelf and you'll find a

1:13:31

book group of books called systematic

1:13:32

theology.

1:13:34

Their content will differ depending on

1:13:36

their traditions, but the the table of

1:13:37

contents will be almost identical.

1:13:39

Bibliology, the Bible, the theology

1:13:42

proper, the attributes of God.

1:13:44

Christologology, the study of the Lord

1:13:45

Jesus Christ. Study pneumatology, that's

1:13:48

their term for studying of the Holy

1:13:49

Spirit. Uh angiology, angels, both

1:13:52

fallen and unfallen. Uh anthropology,

1:13:54

study of man. And uh sotiology,

1:13:57

salvation, fancy word, just studying

1:13:59

salvation. And ecclesiology, study of

1:14:01

the church itself. And esquetology

1:14:04

study. That's the list of most there is

1:14:07

in that list a missing element that

1:14:10

involves five6s of the Bible that is not

1:14:15

a category of most studies of systematic

1:14:18

theology

1:14:20

and Ronald Fruckenbal got his doctoral

1:14:22

by pointing that out and he's got a book

1:14:24

called Israel the missing segment of

1:14:27

theology and uh it's it's a must it's a

1:14:30

must have book for a serious Bible

1:14:32

student isology not not for Israel's

1:14:35

sake, Israel as an instrument of God's

1:14:38

plan of redemption for all of us. That's

1:14:40

a legitimate study theologically quite

1:14:44

apart from Israel as a nation as such.

1:14:49

Okay, Israel and the church,

1:14:51

they have different distinction,

1:14:53

different origins, different missions,

1:14:54

different destinies.

1:14:56

And uh there's a a a a close cousin of

1:15:00

amalennialism called replacement

1:15:02

theology where Israel is is replaced by

1:15:06

the church. That's a heresy out of the

1:15:08

pit of hell and it's taught in many

1:15:11

churches. Why am I so hardened on that?

1:15:14

Because that makes God a liar. We all

1:15:18

are we all may have different views

1:15:20

about esquetology. Good scholars have

1:15:22

different views. But if you are

1:15:26

embracing replacement theology,

1:15:29

you are making God a liar. You got to

1:15:33

face that.

1:15:35

And of course, all of this laid the

1:15:36

basis for anti-semitism. You can go from

1:15:38

Augustine to Ashvitz.

1:15:41

If you want to blame somebody for the

1:15:43

Holocaust in Germany, blame the silent

1:15:46

pulpit that didn't speak out. They were

1:15:49

anti-Semitic pulpit.

1:15:53

And the 70 weeks that we're dealing with

1:15:54

in this conference is going to deal

1:15:56

specifically with Israel, not the

1:15:58

church. Something that's missed by many

1:16:01

of the prophecy buffs that publish

1:16:02

books. They fail to understand the

1:16:04

Jewishness of the 70 weeks.

1:16:08

Paul's dichotomy. He introduces three

1:16:11

groups all through the Old Testament.

1:16:13

It's Jews and Gentiles. Jews and

1:16:15

Gentiles. All kinds of comments. When

1:16:18

the church after Acts chapter 2, you've

1:16:20

got three categories, Jew, Gentile, and

1:16:22

the church. If you're in the church, it

1:16:25

eclipses the past. When you get after

1:16:28

the rapture, you again have the two

1:16:31

distinctions, Jew and Gentile to the

1:16:32

book of Revelation because the church is

1:16:35

in heaven. It only shows up in chapters

1:16:37

two and three of the book of Revelation.

1:16:39

And so anyway, the distinctives will

1:16:41

reappear after Revelation, chapter 4,

1:16:43

verse one. And that's a whole study. If

1:16:46

you're studying the book of Revelation,

1:16:47

it'll go into that. If you're talking

1:16:49

about esquetology, your first branch in

1:16:52

the road, are you amillennial,

1:16:54

postmillennial, or premillennial?

1:16:56

Amaleno is someone that believes that

1:16:58

the millennium is just an allegory, not

1:16:59

literal. There used to be a group called

1:17:02

postmillennial. Well, we're already in

1:17:03

the millennium. That view evaporated in

1:17:06

the 19th century. The 20th century is

1:17:09

the most bloody century in the history

1:17:10

of man. There isn't any sane person that

1:17:12

thinks things have been better than

1:17:14

they've ever been.

1:17:15

that there's no more sin and all that

1:17:16

sort of stuff. So postmillennial is is

1:17:19

an academic thing. But most of us here,

1:17:21

as you probably are, are premillennial.

1:17:23

We believe the there is a, you know,

1:17:25

we're four. We we we accept the reality

1:17:27

of a thousand-y year period that's been

1:17:29

set aside for whatever God's purpose.

1:17:32

Now, out of the premillennial people,

1:17:34

you still have some divisions, and that

1:17:36

has to do with how does where does the

1:17:38

rapture occur with respect to the

1:17:39

tribulation.

1:17:41

And uh people that are amillennial in

1:17:44

general will turn out to be

1:17:45

posttribulational. They think that the

1:17:48

the rap things that we call the rapture

1:17:50

will occur at the end of the great

1:17:51

tribulation. That's their view. And I'll

1:17:54

show you why we don't think that's

1:17:56

feasible.

1:17:58

Most of us are would be categorized as

1:18:00

pre-tribulational. We believe that the

1:18:02

church does not go through any part of

1:18:04

the tribulation.

1:18:06

There are a group of people that are

1:18:07

sort of between. and they call

1:18:08

themselves mid-tribulation, meaning that

1:18:10

they think the rapture occurs in the

1:18:12

middle of the 70th week. The trouble

1:18:14

with both post-trib and midtrib is that

1:18:16

they deny the concept of emacsy and

1:18:18

we'll get into that here in another

1:18:19

another piece of this. Let's talk about

1:18:22

the second coming. We talked about yes

1:18:23

last previous session we talked about

1:18:26

the interval. We had the 69 weeks. Then

1:18:28

we had this interval that includes the

1:18:30

church. But we're going to talk about

1:18:34

the 70th week of Daniel.

1:18:36

And uh that week is not defined by the

1:18:40

rapture. It's defined by a world leader

1:18:43

enforcing a covenant.

1:18:46

And that's what defines the 70th week.

1:18:48

People get confused when they make the

1:18:49

little charts. No, that's what defines

1:18:50

it. In the middle of that seven-year

1:18:53

period,

1:18:55

there is an event called the abomination

1:18:57

of desolation that splits it into two

1:18:59

equal parts. And uh the it the Lord

1:19:03

Jesus himself

1:19:05

labels the second half of that week the

1:19:10

great tribulation by quoting from Daniel

1:19:12

12. I want to highlight a subtlety here.

1:19:15

The great tribulation is not seven

1:19:17

years. It's three and a half in the

1:19:21

scripture.

1:19:22

And um when you hear people talk about

1:19:25

the seven-year tribulation, they're just

1:19:26

being sloppy. What they really mean is

1:19:28

the 70th week. They're equating the

1:19:30

tribulation with the 70th week of

1:19:31

Daniel. Well, that's if you're going to

1:19:35

be serious about this, be precise. The

1:19:37

70th week is 6 years and 11 months. It's

1:19:40

called it a seven-year period called the

1:19:42

70th week of Daniel. It's defined in the

1:19:44

text. Jesus describes the abomination of

1:19:48

desolation as being in the middle of

1:19:50

that week. And it literally is the Holy

1:19:52

Spirit. It's the it's the most

1:19:53

documented period of time in both the

1:19:55

Old and New Testament.

1:19:57

And we'll get we'll get to that before

1:19:58

we're through here, too. The 70th week

1:20:01

is interrupted at the end of it is it

1:20:03

climaxes in the battle of Armageddon and

1:20:05

it's interrupted by the second coming of

1:20:08

Jesus Christ. And when he comes, he sets

1:20:11

up his kingdom. Satan is bound for a

1:20:14

thousand years.

1:20:15

his two cohorts are thrown in Gehenna,

1:20:17

right? Then Satan's just bound for a

1:20:19

thousand years. He's going to be

1:20:20

released because he's going to serve

1:20:21

God's purpose once more.

1:20:23

Now, the post-trib guys feel that the

1:20:26

rapture takes place at the end of the

1:20:28

70th week. That's their view. And uh so

1:20:31

there are some problems with that.

1:20:32

There's first of all, there's several

1:20:34

versions of that written by good

1:20:36

scholars, people that are very

1:20:38

articulate and do their homework. Um,

1:20:40

but I have I there are there are a group

1:20:42

of us that are part of the treat

1:20:44

pre-trip study group gang that publish

1:20:46

in this area that think they're wrong.

1:20:48

You have to decide yourself. There are

1:20:50

some problems at post-tribulation. It

1:20:52

denies the doctrine of eminency.

1:20:54

We are supposed to expect them at any

1:20:56

moment. You can't be post or mid-trip if

1:20:58

you're if you believe in eminency.

1:21:03

Post-tribulations requires the church to

1:21:05

be uh on the earth during the seventh

1:21:08

week of Daniel. That's contrary to

1:21:10

Daniel 9:26 and a number of other

1:21:12

passages where the church is promised

1:21:13

not to go through that.

1:21:16

The pre post-tribulation have the church

1:21:17

experience God's wrath and 1

1:21:20

Thessalonians 5:9 and Revelation 3:10

1:21:22

among other places are pro the church

1:21:23

has promised not to experience not to

1:21:25

even be here during that period of time.

1:21:27

So that's a major controversy

1:21:29

escalologically among among biblical

1:21:32

believers and you're going to have to do

1:21:34

your own study and come to your own

1:21:35

conclusions. I'm telling you candidly

1:21:37

why we hold the view that we do but

1:21:39

you're we're not trying to sell that. We

1:21:40

want you to come to your own

1:21:41

conclusions. And the other question they

1:21:43

ask the post is how can the bride come

1:21:45

with him?

1:21:48

Kenny Poor used to say that makes the

1:21:50

marriage supper a snack lunch. He comes

1:21:52

down and come they come down go he comes

1:21:55

down to get him and then takes him up

1:21:56

and then he comes right back. That it

1:21:58

doesn't make sense bluntly. And so and

1:22:01

there are more problems. Who's going to

1:22:03

populate the millennium?

1:22:05

Because post tribulation has everybody

1:22:07

immortal at the end of the tribulation

1:22:09

one way or the other. There aren't there

1:22:11

aren't any people to populate the

1:22:12

millennium as as mortals. Who are they?

1:22:16

Who are the sheep and who are in the

1:22:18

sheep and goat judgment of Matthew 25

1:22:22

that occurs when the kingdom set up.

1:22:24

It's a very strange thing you will study

1:22:26

subsequently. But there's a question of

1:22:28

who is alive because the sheep and goat

1:22:31

judgment are judged by works and they're

1:22:33

mortal. Boy, does that puncture a lot of

1:22:35

cliches.

1:22:37

How can the virgins of Matthew 25 buy

1:22:39

oil without the mark of the beast?

1:22:42

Silly little question, but it's a good

1:22:43

question. You'll discover you can't

1:22:45

reconcile these virgins that are going

1:22:47

out to buy oil. They certainly don't

1:22:49

have the mark of the beast. How can they

1:22:50

buy? No one can buy or sell. You know,

1:22:52

you get into some in those

1:22:54

inconsistencies. There should be an

1:22:56

alarm bell going on. Say something's not

1:22:58

computing here.

1:23:00

Now, as I say, there's the post-trip

1:23:02

guys. There's the midtrip people that

1:23:04

think, well, yes, we don't go through

1:23:06

the tribulation, but we, and they're

1:23:07

right about that. They could be exempted

1:23:09

from the great tribulation by being

1:23:11

raptured in the middle of the week, but

1:23:12

they're still denying eminency because

1:23:14

they can't be, if you hold that view,

1:23:16

you can't have that view until the

1:23:18

antichrist

1:23:20

uh enforces a covenant. That's a

1:23:22

preceding condition.

1:23:24

And and Marv Rosenthal has a particular

1:23:26

variation of midtrib. He calls it

1:23:29

pre-rath. I'm going to suggest that we

1:23:31

are preerttrib. But I want you to notice

1:23:34

a very critical subtlety here. I want

1:23:37

you to notice that the preerttrib

1:23:38

rapture as represented by the left arrow

1:23:41

there is not coincident the beginning of

1:23:44

the 70th week. It might be an hour away

1:23:47

earlier. It might be 30 years earlier.

1:23:51

We don't know. There's an indeterminate

1:23:54

gap

1:23:56

because the rapture can occur

1:24:00

after the rapture will the antichrist be

1:24:02

revealed,

1:24:03

come to power and enforce a covenant.

1:24:06

That might all happen in an hour.

1:24:09

More likely, it happens. He's revealed,

1:24:12

comes to power, enforces the covenant,

1:24:14

and when that's what triggers the 70th

1:24:16

week. You with me? So, understand

1:24:18

there's a there's an indeterminate

1:24:21

interval there. If you're going to

1:24:22

digest what we think we have from the

1:24:24

scripture,

1:24:26

okay, the rapture precedes the

1:24:28

tribulation is clear. The seventh week

1:24:30

is defined by a covenant enforced by the

1:24:32

coming world leader. And the great

1:24:34

tribulation will be the last half of

1:24:36

that 70th week. I think I've emphasized

1:24:37

that. And the leader cannot be revealed

1:24:40

after the rapture. Where do I get that?

1:24:41

Second Thessalonians 2. And um and see

1:24:45

the problem with uh the Thessalonians is

1:24:47

they believe the Lord has already the

1:24:49

day of the Lord has already come and

1:24:50

they missed it somehow either because

1:24:52

they were mistaught or somehow and

1:24:54

that's why Paul is writing what we call

1:24:55

second Thessalonians as a response to

1:24:57

that a forgery that was circulating.

1:24:59

Well, the question is why would they

1:25:01

have so upset that Paul had to write a

1:25:02

letter? They think they've either missed

1:25:04

the rapture or they've been mistaught

1:25:06

about the rapture. That's what they're

1:25:08

concerned about for whatever reasons.

1:25:10

And so um now so Paul is explaining this

1:25:14

here's the sequence and he goes through

1:25:15

that the day of the Lord he's talking

1:25:17

about is the second coming of Christ and

1:25:20

u that day shall not come except there

1:25:22

be come a falling away first. So there's

1:25:24

a falling away and apostasy well ahead

1:25:26

of that. Okay. He who now restrainth

1:25:29

will restrain until he be taken out of

1:25:31

the way. He's referring to the Holy

1:25:32

Spirit as he indwells the indwells the

1:25:34

church.

1:25:35

The apostate occurs. The restrainer is

1:25:37

removed after the rest and then shall

1:25:40

the wicked one be revealed. The man of

1:25:43

sin is revealed after the restrainer is

1:25:45

removed. And that gets into a whole

1:25:47

definition who is the restrainer. And

1:25:49

you'll discover the only thing that ever

1:25:50

restrain sin is the Holy Spirit. And so

1:25:53

not an angel, not there's a number of

1:25:55

other theories you can easily puncture

1:25:56

if you want to go down that path. And so

1:26:00

the so the man of sin will be revealed

1:26:02

after the rapture is the key thing here.

1:26:04

and um obviously before the day of the

1:26:06

Lord. That's the sequence implied in

1:26:08

second Thessalonian. That's why 2

1:26:10

Thessalonians 2 is such a critical

1:26:12

chapter in New Testament esquetology.

1:26:15

And the way to get at that is to go

1:26:16

through a commentary on the issue.

1:26:20

Now, esquetology, as I say, you've got

1:26:21

either alennial or premillennial.

1:26:23

Postmillennial is and the

1:26:25

reconstructionists are are weird side

1:26:27

group, not serious. And of course, of

1:26:29

the premillennial and post, we we've

1:26:31

just been through all of that. Most

1:26:33

denominations are amillennial and

1:26:35

post-tribulational.

1:26:37

So that's where they reside, so to

1:26:39

speak. Most of us are at the opposite

1:26:42

end of this chart and are typically

1:26:44

labeled fundamentalists. Indeed, we are.

1:26:46

But here's the point I want to make. If

1:26:48

I know your theory of interpretation, I

1:26:51

know where your esquetology will be. If

1:26:53

I know your hermeneutics,

1:26:55

if you're willing to allegorize things,

1:26:57

you'll be on the left side of that

1:26:58

chart. If you're really strict and

1:27:01

you're really diligent and you in the

1:27:03

sense if you take the the text very

1:27:05

precisely, very literally, you'll drift

1:27:06

to the right side. So if I know your

1:27:09

theory of interpretation, I can predict

1:27:11

what esqueological perspective you'll

1:27:13

have. One derives from the other. The

1:27:17

more strict you treat the text, the more

1:27:19

you're driven to the right in in the in

1:27:21

the direction to the right here. And so

1:27:26

now the pre-tribic uh esquetology is not

1:27:29

a new invention. It's taught in the

1:27:31

first century. It certainly was epistle

1:27:34

of Barnabas and other documents.

1:27:35

Irenaeus what he wrote against heresies.

1:27:38

These are first century second century

1:27:40

people. So this is not a recent. Some

1:27:42

people are arguing that's just a recent

1:27:43

thing. No, it's not true. It goes way

1:27:46

way back to the very beginnings. Ephraim

1:27:48

the Syrian of the 4th century even has a

1:27:51

uh we made a there's been a recent

1:27:53

discovery of a document of his that from

1:27:55

the from the 4th century he said for all

1:27:57

saints and the elect of God are gathered

1:27:59

prior to the tribulation that is to come

1:28:00

and are taken to the Lord lest they see

1:28:02

the confusion that is to overwhelm the

1:28:04

world because of sin that is in his

1:28:06

writings back in the fourth century. So

1:28:09

these aren't these are not new ideas.

1:28:11

They there have been a remnant all the

1:28:13

way through history that have clung to

1:28:14

these ideas. And uh we could go through

1:28:17

more of these guys that are through

1:28:18

history here. The the the um what what

1:28:22

what happened is that the this view was

1:28:25

popularized

1:28:27

um by Emanuel Lunza in 1812 and followed

1:28:30

up with Edward Irving in 1816 and John

1:28:34

N. Darby in 1820. Many people call it

1:28:36

Darbyism. They think he invented it. No,

1:28:38

he popularized it. And Margaret McDonald

1:28:41

in 1830, some people say she invented

1:28:43

it. No, Darby did it even before she

1:28:44

did, but they didn't invent it. They

1:28:46

just were very well known because they

1:28:48

popularized it. So, don't let people

1:28:50

confuse you about that. Let's talk about

1:28:52

the Revelation. I don't want to get into

1:28:54

a whole review of it, but I want to

1:28:55

highlight a few things. In Revelation,

1:28:57

we have lampstands, seven lampstands

1:29:01

that are identified as the church in

1:29:03

Revelation chapter 1. Though, they are

1:29:07

in heaven. When John arrives in chapter

1:29:09

4, they represent the church. The church

1:29:12

is in heaven in chapter four is the

1:29:14

point. The 24 elders that are so

1:29:16

prominent in the book identify what they

1:29:18

represent. They identified as the

1:29:20

redeemed in chapter 5 in several places.

1:29:24

And they worship the lamb before he

1:29:27

receives the scroll. Very important.

1:29:31

The 24 elders represent the church. They

1:29:33

worship the lamb before he receives the

1:29:35

seven sealed book. And it's when he

1:29:37

receives the seven bill book and starts

1:29:39

breaking those seals that the

1:29:40

tribulation starts. QED

1:29:43

the church is in heaven and spared the

1:29:46

time of the tribulation. And people miss

1:29:48

that. But you want to and of course the

1:29:50

70th week is detailed then from chapter

1:29:53

6 through 19 of the book of Revelation.

1:29:56

And so be that as it may and we have the

1:29:59

profile of the seven churches.

1:30:02

And these church the seven letters you

1:30:04

want to study because they're the most

1:30:05

important chapters in the entire book of

1:30:07

revelation. And it turns out that these

1:30:10

seven letters strangely lay out the pro

1:30:14

the prophetic history of the church. So

1:30:17

we move on here. God Israel's time it's

1:30:19

it's 69 weeks have transpired.

1:30:22

The chess clock if I look at it that way

1:30:24

that the church is about to end and the

1:30:26

Israel clock's going to start again. And

1:30:29

when will that happen? It won't happen

1:30:31

tomorrow. The rapture could happen

1:30:32

tomorrow. But some interval of time

1:30:34

after the rapture, I don't know if it's

1:30:36

an hour or up 30 years or whatever. I

1:30:38

think the entire fire thing will take

1:30:40

back one generation, less than 38 years.

1:30:43

So it takes seven out of that for the 70

1:30:45

week. 30 it could be as much as 31 years

1:30:48

between the rapture and the beginning of

1:30:49

the 70th week according to this

1:30:51

reckoning if it's correct. And you got

1:30:53

to decide whether it's correct or not.

1:30:55

And so the battle of Armageddon climaxes

1:30:57

the 70th week. Second coming follows.

1:31:00

Obviously, we know the temple will be

1:31:02

rebuilt by the middle of that week.

1:31:04

That's not the millennial temple of

1:31:05

Ezekiel. That's a temple rebuilt temple

1:31:07

that the Antichrist will ultimately

1:31:08

desecrate. We don't know when it's going

1:31:11

to be built. Most scholars presume it's

1:31:14

built sometime in the first half of that

1:31:16

week. And that may be part of what the

1:31:18

world leader authorizes. But in the

1:31:20

middle of that week, he violates his

1:31:22

agreement and sets himself up to be

1:31:23

worshiped. But that temple could be

1:31:26

built earlier. The temple might be built

1:31:28

before the rapture. We don't know.

1:31:29

There's no clue. No clue. It's not our

1:31:32

issue. It's a Jewish issue

1:31:35

because it's it has a destiny that they

1:31:37

don't fully appreciate. Where's the Mog

1:31:40

invasion? Many good scholars, Gal

1:31:41

Lindseay being exemplary of them, tie it

1:31:44

as part of the Armageddon scenario. And

1:31:45

he may be right if he was here and he

1:31:48

would defend that even today. And he may

1:31:50

be right. There are a group of us that

1:31:52

suspect the Magog invasion occurs before

1:31:54

the 70th week. And we'll deal with that

1:31:56

as an issue in the next session. So

1:31:59

there are 10 reasons before the

1:32:01

tribulation, the promise of the hour of

1:32:03

trial from Revelation 3:10. It's not

1:32:06

we're not the subject of God's wrath.

1:32:08

That's what Luke 21 tells us. Um he's

1:32:11

escaped not to endure the tribulation.

1:32:13

When these things come to pass, then

1:32:14

look up and lift up your heads for your

1:32:16

redemption drawth nigh. When these

1:32:17

things begin to pass, in other words,

1:32:19

you'll get the the believers will not be

1:32:21

caught by surprise. By the way, in the

1:32:23

first 1 Thessalonians 5, you are

1:32:25

children of the day, not the night. The

1:32:27

the the coming of Christ as a thief in

1:32:30

the night are to the people of the

1:32:31

night, not the day. Read the first

1:32:34

Thessalonians. It's very encouraging

1:32:35

part of that. Look up, not out for the

1:32:38

redemption war. Uh any war that you

1:32:41

always call the ambassadors home first.

1:32:44

Someone pointed that out to me and

1:32:45

that's also what the Lord's going to do.

1:32:48

If if the warfare is starting before we

1:32:50

he's going to call his ambassadors home.

1:32:52

I hope you are all his ambassadors and

1:32:54

the restrainer will be removed before

1:32:56

the antichrist and so forth. And the

1:32:58

twinkling of an eye that's not an

1:32:59

extended activity. It's in the air, not

1:33:01

on the earth. Women as Israel, not the

1:33:03

church. That's well established. Uh the

1:33:05

marriage of the bride in heaven and so

1:33:07

forth. It includes the raptured and

1:33:09

that's Revelation 19 and so forth. We'll

1:33:10

talk about the bride in session six. And

1:33:13

by the way, John Walver's book doesn't

1:33:15

have 10. and he has 50 of these reasons

1:33:18

why the church can't go through the

1:33:19

tribulation. So the question of the day

1:33:23

is he coming for you?

1:33:26

That's a question. And with that, let

1:33:29

you and I bow our heads in a closing

1:33:31

word of prayer. Father, we thank you for

1:33:33

who you are. We thank you for this time

1:33:35

together. We just uh pray that your Holy

1:33:39

Spirit would help us understand

1:33:41

precisely what it is that you would have

1:33:43

of us in the days ahead. as we commit

1:33:46

ourselves into your hands in the name of

1:33:47

Yeshua, our coming king indeed. Amen.

1:33:53

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